Dr. Boyce: A Few Really Dumb Things about the Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Trial

fdoppofdpfdoby Dr. Boyce Watkins

Forgive me for being out of style, but I’m having a hard time getting into the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin trial.  I feel for the family, and one must fully appreciate the sadness of a young man losing his life under any circumstances.  But when the media has called to ask me what I think about the latest developments in the case, I just freeze up and say, “I have no idea what you’re talking about.”

I just can’t force myself to find this case to be interesting,, not because Trayvon doesn’t matter, but because the case doesn’t make any sense.  I feel incredibly sad for Trayvon and his family, believe me, I do. I don’t know what I’m going to say next week when I see Rev. Jesse Jackson at the annual Rainbow/PUSH convention, because I know everyone is going to be talking about it.  Like Rev. Jackson, I am haunted by the spirits of all the dead black boys across America, but it’s difficult for me to put my energy into one case.

Here are a few things about the trial of George Zimmerman that just don’t make much sense to me.  At least these are some things I wonder about at night, when no one’s looking or listening:

1) If Trayvon Martin had been killed by a black man, no one would be talking about it.  Why do most black people get sensitive about black male homicides only if the killer happens to not be black?  I feel deeply for the parents of Trayvon Martin (I need to keep saying this, so I am not accused of being insensitive), but I find it oddly ironic that we can’t have the same degree of sympathy for the parents of the dozens of young black men who are shot and killed over the last few weeks.  Unfortunately, you’ll never hear about their deaths because black-on-black violence is incredibly uninteresting, like the fourth man to go into outer space, or the school shooting that took place right after Sandy Hook - we might hate the George Zimmermans of the world, but the truth is that the enemy is AMONG US.  Even worse is that we’ve been trained to embrace music that leads us to sing and dance to the tune of our own inevitable genocide.  Yes my friends, that’s just sick.

2) Why are the courts concerned about what kind of person Trayvon Martin was?  If one man has a gun and the other has Skittles and Ice Tea, you can’t quite call this a fair fight.   It seems that some people believe that if Trayvon fought back after being followed by an over aggressive rent-a-cop, that he somehow deserved to be killed.   I don’t care if he smoked weed, had bad grades, got into a fight in school or even punched George Zimmerman in the face, the fact is that he didn’t deserve to die.   It is good old fashioned American RACISM that makes us even ask such ignorant and ridiculous questions, like asking a r@pe victim how short her skirt was before she was tackled in a dark alley and assaulted.

3) None of this would have happened if George Zimmerman had never gotten out of his car.  The 911 operator clearly told Zimmerman to stop pursuing Trayvon, and he disobeyed the order.  Has anyone forgotten about his fact?  George Zimmerman caused ALL OF THIS TO HAPPEN.  Had he followed instructions and stayed in his car, Trayvon would be alive and he would be a free man.  I wonder if this thought has ever crossed his chubby little mind.  The truth is that he’s in jail for being an obsessive idiot who doesn’t know how to listen and follow directions.  Now, he’s embarrassing his entire family.

4) If Zimmerman is convicted, many of us will be overwhelmed with excitement.  But the tough question we must ask ourselves is whether or not anything has changed.  Are black boys less likely to die as a result of George Zimmerman being taken off the streets?  Has racial inequality been mitigated as a result of this trial?  Are black people less poor, better educated, or enjoying a better quality of life with Zimmerman behind bars?  I say not.  Maybe we should be as critical of ourselves as we are of George Zimmerman, for the solutions to resolving the black male violence issue in our communities go far deeper than this one trial in Florida.  That’s why I can’t even watch it.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is the author of the lecture series, “The 8 Principles of Black Male Empowerment.”  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

211 Responses to Dr. Boyce: A Few Really Dumb Things about the Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Trial

  1. I think these are important questions to ask Dr Watkins and I appreciate your candour as, I am sure, there will be a few who will oppose you for posing some of those questions.

    I have often said the same thing with regards to our collective apathy when it comes to gun crime involving our young people, as being this way only shows how disconnected some of us within the community are from the harsh realities that gravely impact us.

    I think that the Trayvon Martin situation is a unique one; and while it is widely considered to be yet another case of racial injustice it remains to be an extremely unfortunate situation that foretells and highlights the profound racial chasms that many of our people tend to have forgetten exists due to their acceptance of this ‘post-racial’ mantle and using as the criterion to live by and under.

    Lets not forget that where young brother Trayvon was murdered that it is a middle-class gated area and many of our people unfortunately have deluded themselves into thinking that living in areas like this puts an end to our oppression and is a legitimate escape from ‘the hood’.

    Situations like Trayvon Martin case should serve as a wake-up call to our people that the suffering and oppression is not over and there is much work to be done within the community before we can even think about relieving ourselves of the stark realities which haunt our community.

    Systematically, nothing has been done to affect any change in the mind-set of whites so it would be nonsensical of us to think that they have all of a sudden changed or have rehabilitated from their imperialistic state.

    Trayvon Martin’s death is the latest incident that speaks to the American conscience, and if she fails to listen then she will only have herself to blame for its seemingly wanton social decay and for the lack of accord between the various peoples within her!

    • It is obvious to me that you and Boyce know NOTHING about protecting your community, protecting your women and your children.

      ZIMMERMAN GOT OUT OF HIS CAR TO FOLLOW SOMEONE HE BELIEVED TO BE A BURGLAR, SO THAT HE COULD CONTAIN HIM UNTIL THE POLICE ARRIVED. THAT IS HOW ALL WHITES KEEP THEIR COMMUNITIES SAFE ALL OVER AMERICA. THAT WAS HIS JOB AS A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PERSON. IT TAKES POLICE FOREVER TO ARRIVE, THAT IS WHY HEROES (SO FAR I’M GOING TO CALL HIM THAT) GET ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN KEEPING THEIR COMMUNITIES SAFE, EVEN IF IT PUTS THEIR LIVES AND FUTURES IN JEOPARDY, AND EVEN IF THEY RISK GOING TO JAIL.

      THIS HALF HAITIAN/DOMINICAN FOOL AS PROVED TO BE A TRAITOR TO TRAYVON IN LIFE AND DEATH. SHE ADMITTED HER STATEMENTS THAT LED TO ZIMMERMAN’S ARREST WERE LIES AND HALF TRUTHS, AND FABRICATED. SHE LIED ABOUT HER AGE. WHILE CLAIMING TO BE UPSET ABOUT HIS DEATH SHE ADMITTED SHE DIDNT WANT TO BE BOTHERED WITH TESTIFYING OR HIS MOTHER, OR HIS ATTORNEY. AND THE SO CALLED FRIEND ADMITTED TO NOT GOING TO HIS FUNERAL OR WAKE WITH A FLIMSY STUPID EXCUSE. SHE DIDNT EVEN CALL POLICE WHEN SHE HEARD THE SCUFFLE. SHE DIDNT WANT TO BE BOTHERED CAUSE HE WASNT A FELLOW HAITIAN, AND WAS ONLY USING HIM TO AMUSE HER AND HER FELLOW HAITIANS, WHO PRETENDED TO BE HER IN TXT CONVERSATIONS WITH HER PHONE AND HER KNOWLEDGE.

      THE ONLY ONE CLOSE TO BEING A GOOD WITNESS FOR THE PROSECTION WAS THE MIDDLE AGE WHITE LADY AND SHE WAS THE MOST CONCERNED AND HURT OVER THE DEATH.

      I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THUS FAR ZIMMERMAN IS LOOKING LIKE A HERO.

      • @ faye

        I think what’s “obvious” and evident here is your deranged cataloguing of an emotional outburst, which fails to form a platform that contains even a minutia of reasonably rational & intelligent debate.

        Judging from your rudimental words I would say that you are in no place to even consider whether I have the wherewithal to protect a community or not as;
        1. you don’t know me and,
        2. its quite apparent that you use CAPITAL LETTERS to make a so-called point, which pretty much means that you possess much angst, hence why YOU yourself would find it difficult to intervene in the affairs of a community using balanced thinking!

        What you need to do is stop making excuses for white folks, particularly murderous ones, as its quite “obvious” that they wouldn’t need the likes of you to defend them, nor would they seek the likes of you for consultation, so just remember that your “obvious” sentiment and fervour is neither shared, or would be reciprocated by white folks.

        I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with anything I may say however its quite clear where I stand on the issues which Dr Watkins has highlighted in his article even to a blind man, and if I am to debate any oppossing party I would expect a higher level of opposition than the one you have presented here.

      • Herman Hawkins Jr.

        The bottom line in all of this is that TRAYVON MARTIN WAS UNARMED! This is a case of racial profiling at its worst. George Zimmerman intended to at the very worst hound Martin and he did so to the point of killing him. Once Zimmerman got out of his car against the dispatchers orders there was nothing to defend him on, period. Nothing else matters and Faye you and others should leave it at that.

        • @ Herman Hawkins Jr.

          AMEN!!

          …and I’m not even a Christian!

        • I have been watching this case very closely and I know white people very well. Zimmerman had no intention of hounding him. He said, “these criminals always get away.” He was determined to keep that boy where he was until the police arrived. If Zimmerman was a rascist killer he would have killed him up by the mail boxes AWAY from the residential area. Away from peering eyes out the window. Use some common sense, and look at the case based on the UNBIASED FACTS.

          The boy provoked the fight, like the crazy girl told him to do, and when he realized he wasnt winning, started screaming, noticed zimmerman gun and grabbed for it, and zimmerman got to it first.

          • @ faye

            Well lets see how things would transpire, if you, or a child of yours happens to be in a gated area walking along loaded with a bag of skittles & ice-tea with a white-boy toy-cop lurking around who has reservations regarding ‘minorities’, we’ll see if the people “you know…” would be just as calculating & balanced as you said Zimmerman was when considering where & how they will apprehend, detain or shoot you!

            If someone assumes that I’m a criminal solely on the basis that I am a Black man and approaches me in a threatening way then things are going to end up being different for that racist Mother-F*%&%$ and I won’t give a d**n if theyre in uniform or not!

            I also care less about what up-your-a*s dumb negroes, or arrogant white folk would have to say about me instigating a fight in circumstances like this, its about survival at that point and its either they take me out or I them!!

            You know white people…what kind of Bull-S*%£ talk is that?!?

          • Traveller you are a typical negro who wants to do his dirt but NEVER GET DIRT ON YOU. White men are not going to let their neighborhoods turn into war zones like you do.

            When police depts report that they know that large numbers of black boys are burglarizing, who should they be suspicious of, chinese boys?

            Common sense doesnt work like that. If I knew black boys were burglarizing my neighborhood, and one was running through the night, complaining about someone watching him, and starting a fight ALL THE FACTS point to guilt.

            But negro men like you, will tell black boys not to look at the world through clear eyes and let them go out unadvised of the stereotypes that exist about them and not teach them how to be respectful of authority, dont loiter, dont assume everyone is out to get you, and dont assume that everyone is rascist.

            AND THE WORSE THING HIS PARENTS DID WAS LET HIM RUN AROUND WITH TRASH.

            MY SON WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD A FRIEND LIKE THAT RACHEL WOMAN TO LEAD HIM DOWN THE PATH TO DESTRUCTION.

            MY SON WOULD NEVER HAVE CHOSEN A HOSTILE, GHETTO, LIAR, CONNIVING PIECE OF GHETTO HAITIAN GARBAGE AS A FRIEND. IF TRAYVON WAS THIS NICE SWEET HORSE BACK RIDING MIDDLE CLASS BLACK AMERICAN BOY, WHAT DID HE HAVE IN COMMON WITH THAT TRASH. MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.

            AND THAT FOOL TRIED TO PICK A FIGHT IN OPEN COURT WITH THE LEGAL COMMUNITY, AND WE’RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE SHE TOLD TRAYVON TO RUN??? THINK FOOLS THINK.

            GHETTO NEGROES RUN TOWARD FIGHTS, NOT AWAY FROM THEM. THAT’S A FACT.

          • @ faye

            …and I guess we have the likes of you to enlighten young black males??? Lord have mercy!!!

          • Faye you are fake. Your name is mispelled. HOLD HIM FOR WHAT? HE TRIED AND CONVICTED TRAYVON OF WHAT? IF HE HAD A STEREO ON HIS BACK THEN MAYBE. George should have been a felon unable to carry a weapon for assaulting a police officer. He was also kicked out of
            police academy, fired from a security job for assaulting a defenseless drunk female, wife battery and had it not been for his JUDGE DADDY HE WOULD NEVER EVER have BEEN ABLE TO EVEN WORK IN ANY SECURITY CAPACITY LET ALONE CARRY A GUN. IN THIS regard his
            father is guilty and the mother also for she reportedly even removed his criminal history from the files as a clerk. Maybe you Faye are involved and are now trying to win at all costs to prevent a massive lawsuit against the whole legal system that used privelege to help keep a dangerous lunatic on the streets with a gun.

          • @ faye Karma is a B!@#H

          • Wow, what an ignorant wiite person you are Faye! Free your mind!!

          • Faye, all I can say in regards to your obsurd rants is, YOU NEED TO FIND JESUS!!! In addition, you need to get off your over privledged soap box and stop judging people. Please do not get me wrong when I say privledged! It sounds as if you live on the wrong side of the track. But you are white and privledge does come with the color of your skin. However, this is changing slowly, but surely. Is this the reason that you are displaying such unabound, hatred, hostility, and anger Faye?

    • Why do negroes like you, only talk about a conscious for white people, and yet when negroes rape, murder, rob, kill babies, commit all kinds of heinous crimes, you never invoke the word conscious.

      You always expect the white man to act in a conscientious, ethical, fair, way with you, and yet you dont return the favor, SO WHY SHOULD HE? WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOUR BLACK SELF IS?

      The new white man is showing you and will continue to show you with black destruction, that he has no duty above and beyond your duty. And that your very biased opinion of him ceases to matter.

      You only increase the hatred when you turn the other cheek when odrama talks down to you, and hate whites when they follow his example.

      • @TRINA sound like you think it’s ok for someone to murder another, well if you like to kill come over to my house and choke my chicken..

      • victoria mcgill

        @ coast cooker a racist you can tell by the way she talk anyway who gives a d**n what she thinks god is good all of the time and there will be certainly something good comes out all of this and i am talking bout in Trayvon Martin case if you notice people only talk s**t behind there computer and or behind there door.

      • Trina, you sound so silly! I will not commit an injustice towards all white people by marginalizing them in one category. However, when did many white people in America become congruous? No, It is not okay, for anyone to kill, rape, or commit heinous crimes. However, you should not point fingers, or throw stones when you live in a glass house! You love to compare murders in regards to Black people as if you all are devoid of committing more atrocious crimes than anyone in the history of the world. Life and the quality of living is not a compare and contrast. But since it seems to be so with you, to date statistically speaking white people commit more murders on a mass level than all the races around the world. Who do you think you are by judging a race that you could never, ever walk in their shoes. P.S if you didn’t know America is turning very Brown!

    • I heard Jesse Jackson say this very morning, “Trayvon should have fired on him. He shouldnt have been watching and following him.”

      And he is supposed to be a leader!!!

      Teach your kids to be bullys and aggressors if you like, but when they end up hurt and dead you have no one to blame but yourself.

      White folks are waging anti-bullying campaigns every day. You saw the fool that Trayvon spent all his time with trying to bully the legal community and we’re to believe he was not a bully???

      If the boy had been taught to come in the house, and called the police and let them handle it, he’d be alive today. He made it home, he should have been safe.

    • This Child was walking down the street after buying candy. Do not add this or that , what if,what for.He is Dead. Why?

  2. ajamu chaminuka

    Of course, when anyone but especially a child is killed like that, it’s a tragedy and it doesn’t matter the race of the perpetrator. But when a Black person is killed by a racist, it’s as though the entire race was attacked not just one person. That’s why the emotions are so high, i feel like Zimmerman made an attempt on me. Beyond that if we want to begin to stop this Black on Black slaughter then we as Black Men have to BREAK THE FEAR BARRIER and take charge of our community instead of letting the white racist system be in charge. Until we decide to stand up, we can forget about someone else solving that problem.

    • Dumb negroes and their misplaced emotions only make all negroes look like fools when they claim to be so concerned about ONE boy killed a world away, when 5 little babies shot on their own block dont even get a condolence card.

      Rascist???

      Zimmerman a rascist when the so-called friend of Trayvon’s admitted he called Zimmerman a “white crakka and a n8ggah”. You crazy

      • The Northwest Side saw three homicides in the last week, according to a RedEye analysis of preliminary police data.

        On Monday, a 24-year-old woman was stabbed to death in the 6500 block of West Addison Street in Dunning, police said.

        On Friday, a 36-year-old man was fatally shot in the 2800 block of North Spaulding Avenue in Avondale, according to officials.

        That same day, a 21-year-old man was shot to death in the 2900 block of North Kilpatrick Avenue in Belmont Cragin, police said.

        This is Dunning’s first homicide of the year, while Avondale and Belmont Cragin have each recorded two homicides in 2013, according to RedEye data.

        Meanwhile, South Shore logged two homicides this week. On Wednesday, a 23-year-old man was fatally shot in the 7500 block of South Yates Boulevard, police said. Three days earlier, a 22-year-old man was shot to death in the 1500 block of East 76th Place, according to officials.

        Citywide, gunshot homicides have been logged in the last week in Greater Grand Crossing, McKinley Park, the Near North Side, South Chicago and West Garfield Park, RedEye determined.

        Thirty-four homicides have been recorded so far in June. Forty-seven homicides were logged in June 2012, RedEye found.

        DO ALL NEGROES WANT TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OF BLACK MURDERERS??? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE??? HOW MANY WILL BE MURDERED BEFORE NEGROES FOCUS ON THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES ACROSS AMERICA?

  3. Here; we’ll taking about a racial white man murdering a teenager,(TRAYVON MARTIN). I f you use your mind, think how many innocent Black has been killed, executed because in the minds of hatrede. For what I don’t know why they hate us so much. If this was vice-versa, believe me, the case would have been over months ago if not weeks. I realize that it ‘s still Black on Black crime because they don’t have any self-esteem for one another. Even retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Conner admitted it ok for a Black man to receive the death penalty than that of a White killing a Black. I see that what I believe is happening right now with Gerge Zimmerman’s case.

    • Doretha Bryant

      Well said Dr. Boyce, The real issues are in our communities where blacks children are killing each other on a daily basis. Parents, teachers and spiritual leaders we must reach out to the children in our communities and somehow find a way to eradicate the self destruction that is happening in our communities. We must not seperate our existence by our geographics. Black is Black it doesn’t matter where you come from.

    • I wound like to address why African American are hated so much information which is contained in a 2-part video I recently saw. I thing it is mandatory for every black person to see it, all students as well: Hidden Colors -
      Shows how blacks civilized society for the very beginning and we started just about everything, starting with the moores. We are a great people. And, there is an African American presence all in just about every country. It is quite amazing when you think about it. I learned more from this video than I did for 6 years in college from one of the top universities. Plese see it if it’s the last thing you do and pass it on.

      You can buy it online:
      Hidden Color, Part I and II

      Peace and love,

      Judie G.

    • victoria mcgill

      well said it is all about racist it’s okay for a white to kill a black boy r men and get away with it but if the shoe was on the other foot they lock our azz up quick hang us or even excuse our azz i am black and not a racist but i treat people how they come and go that’s with any race however i still do love my beautiful black people we wouldn’t be who we are or where we are if it wasn’t for the man up stairs because when it all boils down to it there’s a lot of whites out here who can’t stand the ground we walk on so we as black gotta continue to be there no matter the task. (all the way from chicago,IL)

  4. Ha. Yes, Zimmerman is in jail for being stupid and when he is convicted (I believe he will be as he should be) the black on black killings will continue unabated and our own people will continue to look the other way. Like you, Dr. Boyce, I am distracted by other things. Namely the fact that the Supreme Court has just struck down a key provision of the Civil Rights Voting Act setting the stage for the racists former slave states to disenfranchise black, brown and poor people. The racist right wing congress cannot be trusted to revisit updating this provision and we continue taking one step forward in this country only to go two steps back. These are frightening times but I’m ready to hit the streets in protest as needed.

    • I would bet money on the fact that ZIMMERMAN WILL NOT BE CONVICTED AND THE ONE WHO WILL CAUSE THE MISTRIAL WILL BE THE ONE THEY ARE CALLING THE BLACK/HISPANIC JUROR.

      • victoria mcgill

        Why am i thinking the same way all the way from chicago,IL

        • Victoria every community that has their violence under control, biggest fear is that their communities will end up like Chicago if their MEN dont take an active role in helping the police curtail crime.

          If Chicago had just a few good men determined to put their life on the line to keep order, and maintain order, and not allow bullys and criminals to take their neighborhoods, Chicago’s women and children would have a safe place to live.

          And if mothers would teach their boys not to fight aggressiion with aggression. There are no winners.

          Trayvon should have ran in his house and called the police and told them a man was following me, and I’m scared.

          TEACH YOUR CHILDREN THAT. LEAVE THE AGGRESSION TO THE POLICE WHENEVER POSSIBLE. FIGHT ONLY WHEN CORNERED. TELL THEM PEOPLE CARRY GUNS THESE DAYS.

          TELL THEM WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IS ALL ABOUT. TELL THEM ABOUT GOVT SURVEILLANCE ON THE INTERNET AND CAMERAS ON THE STREET LIGHTS.

          TEACH THESE CHILDREN THAT THEIR ARE EYES AND EARS EVERYWHERE FOR A REASON AND THAT WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY PLAGUED BY VIOLENCE AND TERRORISM.

          AND YOU MIGHT JUST SAVE A LIFE.

  5. R James Ferguson

    I agree, the trial is not worth watching. I will not watch it. Now on the other hand. Black on Black crime (murders) are far too many. However, when a White man kills a Black, we are up in arms because of the history of this country and the treatnment of Blacks.

  6. Mikal-Ace Ngubani

    Dr Boyce: Though I concur with most of your musings, I’m somewhat puzzled as to why you stopped short in your speculations at Zimmerman being found guilty rather than continuing on with what might be the overall public and social outcry, were he acquited? And if, judging from past outcomes of egregious police behavior in the past, then… what? Or have we not the right to speculate to that extent without subjecting or setting ourselves up on this medium and others like it, for some measure of serious and unwanted scrutiny?

  7. As a person who has spent over 25 years on crime watch patrols, I know the rules. You DON’T carry a weapon. You DON’T pursue. You DON’T intimidate. Zimmerman was wrong, wrong, wrong.

    • You dont live in Florida. Ordinary citizens are allowed to carry concealed weapons, and no one who is serious about fighting crime allows the offender to get away while they’re waiting for the slow moving police to arrive.

      Zimmerman did everything in his power to stop Trayvon from fleeing before the slow cops arrived. If he didnt do that, there would have been NO scuffle and no fight.

      He would have just shot him point black and called the police AFTER he did it.

      • victoria mcgill

        your so sad for your comment or maybe should i say so immature for such choice words.

      • Very Confused:

        You say that Zimmerman was simply trying to detain Trayvon until the slow police got there. I have some questions to ask: What was he doing to be detained? Had he stolen the Skittles or the drink that he had in his procession? Was he peeping in house windows? Or was his pants too low? In other words was just being a young black youth, wearing something on his head like a hoody, a sweatshirt with a hood attached to cover his head, similar to the purpose of a hat or scarf. Please tell me the reason or reasons this young man was really detained.

    • victoria mcgill

      sure was he knew what he was doing such a idiot or should i say what was he thinking hmm still waiting the boy had no weapon of choice but some snacks and he should have fought his way out he had every right too those bruises and stuff they talking about zimmerman had bet he will think the 1st time and not the 2nd time if there ever be a next time.

      • HE WAS HOME. HE SHOULD HAVE WENT IN THE HOUSE AND CALLED THE POLICE.

        I GOT INTO A FIGHT WITH ONE OF MY WHITE NEIGHBORS ONCE. SHE ATTACKED ME WITH A GARDEN HOSE, WHICH I GRABBED AND GOT HER GOOD ON THE HAND. ALL I GOT WAS WET.

        KNOWING THAT SHE WOULD RUN IN THE HOUSE AND CALL POLICE, I KEPT MY WET CLOTHES EVIDENCE ON, CALLED THE POLICE TOO, AND WHEN THEY ARRIVED THEY BELIEVED ME. AND HER b**t WENT TO THE HOSPITAL WITH A CUT HAND PROMISING TO SUE ME. THE WHITE COP WAS ON MY SIDE 100% ESPECIALLY WHEN I TOLD HIM SHE WAS A NURSE.

        I HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS, GOT INTO MANY WHITES WITH RASCIST, AND WON EVERY ONE,

        ONLY BECAUSE I WAS TRUTHFUL, HONEST, CALM, NOT CURSING, AND PRESENTED MY EVIDENCE.

        MY SON WAS RAISED IN KKK COUNTRY. I TAUGHT HIM THE SAME WAY I WAS RAISED. HE GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE IN THEIR PREDOMINANTLY WHITE SCHOOLS, WHILE THE BELLIGERENT HOT HEAD TOO AGGRESSIVE BLACK BOYS WERE ALL KICKED OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, AND NOW THEY’RE HOME WITH MAMA OR OFF TO PRISON, AND MY SON LIVES IN THE HIGH RENT DISTRICT AND IS A SUCCESSFUL FINANCIAL PLANNER.

        TEACH YOUR SONS TO BE GENTLEMAN LIKE WE WERE TAUGHT WHEN GROWING UP, AND YOUR GIRLS TO BE LADIES, LIKE WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP AND THINGS WILL GO MUCH BETTER FOR YOU BLACK PEOPLE.

        JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN WE USED TO, DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE BULLYS AND FOOLS, IMMORAL AND IGNORANT, AND EXPECT TO GET AWAY WITH IT.

        • Wow, I love your post! I just wanted to say that there are good and bad people in every race. We all should think about the consequences before we do things. I don’t understand why we can’t treat other’s with respect that we want for ourselves?
          God made all of us, different colors, different races but that doesn’t mean that we can’t get along.
          I’m white, but I don’t see your color/race, I look for what’s in your heart.
          Your comment about:
          TEACH YOUR SONS TO BE GENTLEMAN LIKE WE WERE TAUGHT WHEN GROWING UP, AND YOUR GIRLS TO BE LADIES, LIKE WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP AND THINGS WILL GO MUCH BETTER FOR YOU BLACK PEOPLE. – that should not just be for black people, that should be for all of us!
          God bless!

          • @ Petra

            “I’m white, but I don’t see your color/race, I look for what’s in your heart.”

            I think you should see me colour, as it would be the first obvious thing you would see if we met.

            I guess what you’re really saying is; I would rather assess the heart of a human being, rather than accept the societal stigma & stereotypes which attach themselves ‘colour’.

            As nice as this sounds unfortunately this is both idealistic and utopian in nature within this current world’s order, and the reality is to appropriately deal with this societal imbalance by dispelling the myths of white supremacy and building a new world based on the eternal & immutable natural/universal law, not man-made law!

            Not until then would we see racial harmony!

  8. Karen S. Jackson

    I personally agree with all comments made in regards to this case up to now, but one thing that the media has fail to mention is that Zimmerman’s father is a lawyer, and this is why they failed to arrest him and he was allowed to walk free for so long, not to mention the fact that a child such as Trayvon was not suppose to live in this type of community. Zimmerman is without a doubt guilty of First Degree Murder, bottom line not Second degree murder. There is a different kind of justice for the Black race; whether it is Black on Black, and/or White on Black crimes being committed around the world. Lets continue to pray for the Martin Family as well as all families that are subjected to this kind of violence and corruption of the system. Lets take back our Black communities and Black churches so that our voices can be heard…..Stay encouraged……KSCJackson.

    • Trayvon was supposed to live in that community. Most of his neighbors that testified were minorities.

      If the father wasn’t so up the azz of his white woman, he would have introduced that boy to the Homeowner Assoc Board, and told the office that his son would be visiting him, then ZIMMERMAN would have known who he was. THAT’S THE WAY ALL GATED COMMUNITIES WORK WITH HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION BOARDS.

  9. The trial is important and symbolic. I hope it gives peace to the family and serves as a deterrent to those who believe that it’s hunting season on young black males. The black on black crime issue is over simplified. It is largely due to an underground drug economy. In poor black communities there are typically no other economies or anything else that is necessary to sustain a community. We need to look at the real reasons for the black on black crime if there will ever be solutions. The Trayvon Martin murder and black on black crime can not be compared. And black people are concerned about blacks killing blacks. Many just don’t know where the solutions lie.

    • They dont know where the solutions lie???? They dont know that if their uppity middle class azzes stop sniffing the dope, and buying the dope that it will stop the dope, and murders of black children???

      STOP IT n****h, YOU LOVE HAVING YOUR DOPE SOLD RIGHT NEXT DOOR EVEN IF IT MEANS THAT EVERY BLACK BOY IN AMERICA GOES TO PRISON OR IS MURDERED BECAUSE OF IT.

      STOP YOUR LIEING N8GGAH TONGUE! ALL OF YOU LOW LIFES SAY THE SAME LOW LIFE LIE!

  10. I cannot agree more with everything you say. Especially your remarks about the senseless slaughter of our own people in the streets of our communities.

  11. charles mcghee

    If he is found INNOCENT and white people celebrate in the street (O j Simpson) will we be upset at them. Has I justice been served?

  12. Joyce Bornemann

    I worked in Law Enforcement for several years and let me say Zimmerson was WRONG. Unless he was a certified officer he should not have had a GUN on him. When I was growing up we were told that BLACK people were not to be our friends. I have since decided on my own that the color of a person skin should not have a bearing on that person. The def>>> of a NIGER to me is a low class of person, they can be black-white-or any other color or shape that god made them. wE WERE ALL CREATED BY THE SAME
    GOD. Why cant we just all live like brothers and sisters????

  13. I believe this trial is more about the ignorant “Stand Your Ground Law” than it is about Trayvon. But to say this trial doesn’t interest you is buffoonery on your part ….you are supposed to be educated and TM’ s demise should be of interest to you just as any murdered black man’s accuser should be. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  14. Dr. Boyce I am aware that most of us don’t understand the psychological ramification behind an enslaved people – but you, I would expect better. Somehow we are always trying to negate the effect of white domination, etc by comparing our deeds to theirs. I’ve been around a lot of Jewish people who certainly know the failings of their community but I’ve never heard one trying to compare themselves with Nazism – they would cut their tongues out before that kind of ignorance came from their mouths. This is not an excuse but an explanation.

    There is no excuse for what the white man did to us but as horrible as it is, there are excuses and explanations for what we are doing to ourselves, including how you, a learned man could so seriously miss the mark.

  15. While I understand where you are coming from, I must interject this “thought”. There have been many black men in general that have died at the hands of a non black person. For me, it is very insensitive to not feel something when a young black man has been gunned down because of the color of his skin. They can turn it anyway they want to, but this young man was killed because of the color of his skin by a non black male…who had an issue with him.

    You are right this much attention is not seen when its black on black killings and its ashame that it is like that…but hey…

  16. The car analogy., mechanic tells me your car/people has oil leak/blk on blk crime problem and a muffler/racism issue. Same car/people., TWO different problems.. ONE has nothing to do with the other .. There’s social respect from another race, And there’s knowing How to socialize with one another.. One Iran is working on the “technology ” for a nuclear source … The other the “Dog Whisper ” is teaching hostile dogs how to summit to the pack/unit/community….

  17. INDEED! …This case has a huge ramification regarding gun laws.., HUGE!.. This is why the conservative talk media broadcasted a George Zimmerman legal defense fund… The Zimmerman lawyers didn’t come cheap., And how many “copycats ” why use the “Stand Your Ground” law to agitate & instigate unarmed people into conflicts resulting in cowardly murders? .. The gun rights lobby wants the country resemble the O.K. corral or Dodge City… YOU’D only have to decipher their definition of ” Law Biding” citizens …

  18. Spivey L. Gordon

    I would not go as far to say that George Zimmerman look like a though, nothing the Haitian/Dominican friend who would be the most creditable witness did anything to help his cause. In my opinion, her testimony was the worst I’ve ever witness. Her slurred voice lazy responses and unwilling cooperation don’t want be bothered and arrogance made her appear as she was influenced by alcohol or some type of control substance. Her conduct was so shameful and embarrassing until I start to turn my television channel. Clearly, she should have never been asked to enter the witness stand unless she was properly prep by the prosecution. If at any time during the trial Zimmerman legal team could declare victory, it was today and the key witness I am sorry to say is to blamed for it.

  19. Following is a letter I wrote to my local newspaper. Within it, you may understand why the people of Sanford and many in the world feel the Trayvon Martin 2nd degree murder trial deserves our attention.

    Letter to the Editor: Why I march?
    The Sanford Herald
    April 20, 2012

    Sanford is a city of about 54,000 people and a significant black population of approximately 30 percent, or 16,200. If one percent of the population of Sanford, or 540 people, showed up and protested with me in downtown Sanford, it would change the makeup of the thrust of local government in city hall. Even if one percent of the black population showed up – change would happen. As it has been in the past, change is left to a small group of committed citizens like me who find it necessary to protest for change.

    For me, the Trayvon Martin shooting changed the way I saw the government and law enforcement in my community. It was a watershed moment. It was after the shooting that I joined with others asking for the resignation or removal of our chief of police. Many whites see the protests to remove the chief of police as political, however that was never the case with me and other blacks in the Sanford community.

    In discussing the shooting with other black men and women – young and old – it became clear it was not completely about race either. When the shooting was discussed, it was usually started off with words like, “That could have been me,” or “That could have been my son or daughter.” They were saying they felt a little less safe in their person than they were prior to the night of Feb. 26, when a child (who had recently turned 17) left his house unarmed to buy a bag of candy and a drink and ended up shot to death by a neighborhood watch activist while trying to get back home.

    For these blacks, it was not so much a race issue, although race was involved, or a political issue, although politics would come to be involved, but an issue of physical well being. Blacks always knew there were people like George Zimmerman – who shot and killed Trayvon Martin – in their midst who profiled black young men without cause and even committed acts against them. Blacks had however become comfortable, and maybe overly so in expecting law enforcement would hold these kind of people accountable and arrest them when they committed acts against their persons.

    It was when black people saw Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford Police Department stand before the nation, and say not only would law enforcement not be charging Zimmerman with a crime, but they would set him free saying he had a right to kill this child, that we became outraged and afraid for our safety at the same time. The confidence in law enforcement to protect us from zealots like Zimmerman dissolved in that news conference held by Chief Lee on that Monday afternoon. It was at that news conference where you could see the fear and trepidation in the eyes of black people as they felt they were under attack and law enforcement having abandoned them now supported and protected the killer.

    It was not for us a question of race but a question of how do we stop this from going any further. This is what caused the outburst of emotion and galvanized blacks to action resulting in the huge protests and marches which followed across the nation. They were afraid for their safety and the safety of their loved ones.

    Blacks came to find out they were behind the learning curve in the “Stand Your Ground Law,” and had to get up to speed politically to address that issue. They also knew the issue of getting Zimmerman arrested had to take center stage.

    The business however of not allowing the chief of the Sanford Police Department to return to his post falls to local citizen like me. It was this chief who investigated this shooting and advocated for Zimmerman in that afternoon news conference. We now know based on the special prosecutor appointed by Governor Rick Scott that Zimmerman should have been charged with a crime and not set free. The special prosecutor has charged him with 2nd degree murder. Therefore I protest and will continue to protest until this chief is removed.

    And I invite my brothers and sisters, both white and black, to stand with me.

    James Davis

    Sanford, Fla.
    http://www.sslumpsum.com

    • James Davis, I lived on the edge of Sanford and Lake Mary right near the highway overpass from 2005-2007, and I can tell you from personal experience with a rogue Homeowner Association captain who was a full Jewish man, while Zimmerman is half Jewish, that Police Chief Bill Lee is NOT rascist, and you will know that he is not rascist when Zimmerman is set free.

      Chief Bill Lee found in my favor every time I had to call an officer out to my home because of constant harrassment from the Homeowner Assoc Captain, and had all his officers assure me that if he moved from harrasment to breaking a law, they would arrest him immediately. I doubt Chief Bill Lee’s replacement is better than he, and I would bet he is going to be far worse.

      I saw my first klansman in full robe in Sanford. Do you really believe that the klan would put in a police chief that is against them? They wanted Chief Bill Lee gone, believe that.

      And what about that new black city manager they put in? Do you really believe he is there to serve the interest of minorities.

      There are big differences between Zimmerman and the man who harrassed me for NO reason, other than I bought a house on his block. They did everything to try and stop me from buying the house. But I had a good realtor who knew the law.

      After watching the trial and listening to the witnesses, I have concluded that Zimmerman was too young to be given the awesome responsibility of patroling his neighborhood. He was too young to know the law, and too young to be trusted with all that authority. In many ways he is a victim, just like Trayvon.

      There is not a person on the planet who is concerned about crime, that would not believe that a hooded young teenage male, standing around loitering outside on a rainy night, who suddenly breaks into a run IS NOT SUSPICIOUS. Everything that Trayvon did was suspicious and Zimmerman was too young to know that, just because a person might be acting like a criminal, doesnt necessarily means he is one.

      Trayvon father dropped the ball. He should have told that boy how to conduct himself in a gated community, and that gated communities are safe only because there are people with eyes and ears on watch for crime.

      Look at the hostile fool that Trayvon spent all his time conversing with. There is no telling what kinds of dumb things she told that boy to do. If all the conversations had been recorded I bet we would find that much of his actions were coached by her on how to be hostile, stupid, and aggressive for no reason.

      I’m very sorry for him, because the poor boy didnt stand a chance.

      • @ sandra

        …so let me get this straight,

        Beacause of Zimmerman’s youthful exuberance we should take into consideration that he too is a victim because he was too young to be given the authority of ‘captain’ in this gated community, and because he hung around a dumb-a*s girl this is what possibly got Trayvon shot due to the assumption that she influenced him in being just as dumb as she is.
        AND, young black men running in the presence of law enforcement, or anyone for that matter could only be deemed as suspicious and does merit someone shooting after them.

        Questions;

        Which teenager doesn’t have a ‘block-head’ rolling with them?
        Which asylum have you escaped from?
        Which rock have you crawled out from under?

        Now Zimmerman’s ignorant & racist actions should be excused based on his youth???????????

        Are you f#*%ing insane?!?

        I wonder if the tables were turned you or they would look at a Black man’s youthfull-ness and excuse his behaviour under circumstances like this???

        Its either youre an imbalanced white b*****d, or an imbalanced white-thinking b*****d who has no regard for yourself or anybody Black!

        People like you get me sick…you make excuses for whites who murder our people wholesale yet no compassion for your own who die in the face of injustice!

        How many ignorant young white boys are there out there who committ all types of crimes don’t end up looking at the other end of a patrolman’s gun?
        How many white boys are there who are not profiled by the police and they look suspcious as h**l?

        I don’t care if Trayvon smoked weed and misbaved at school, would Zimmerman have known any of this?
        Acting this way is what a lot of teenagers do, regardless of their colour but I guess Zimmerman’s suspicions were enough for him to shoot Trayvon particularly as having a packet of skittles and an iced-tea in your possession is threatening, right?!?

        I guarantee you that NO white parent would ever tolerate such madness from their own people let alone a Black person, so where do you get off excusing such behaviour?!?

        Think before you speak…if you can manage that!!

        • Who gives a hoot about what you think, you’re not on the jury and never will be because you’re trying to worry about one black boy being murdered in a different state, while 10 black on black murders happened on your block last night and you say nothing and do nothing!

          Your voting rights are being taken away and you’re busy worrying about paula deen calling u a n8ggah when black people call u that on a regular basis every day of your life.

          I know you dont care if Trayvon was a nasty bully, who associated with nasty bullys, and a borderline criminal, because in your mind those things are good and right.

          Thank God you and your kind dont count in decent society.

          White men and boys are locked up ALL THE TIME. The difference between them and you is that you’re so evil and low down you want to walk the streets and never repent of your sins against black women and children. You scream loud and long because you’re too evil to want to pay for your crimes and you can go to h**l.

          • @ Sandra

            Its amazing how people who point accusations at people are generally projecting how they actually
            feel about themselves…this is evident in your case.

            Youre trying your best to get me in a position to express what, or who I am, i.e. setting up some kind of ‘I am important…and I do this or that work…’ situation with you as though its a competition to signify & front.
            But quite frankly I find that unecessary, as to do so would be a waste of time and energy particualarly with someone who clearly cares nothing about themselves or their people.

            Like I said before, “Think before you speak…if you can manage that!!”

            Clearly you can’t….so take your apologist self back under the rock you crawled out from and STFU!!!

  20. The Worst thing an Oppressor can do is to turn the Oppressed into the instruments of their own Destruction! It’s Genocide brought to your door free Delivery but this was done by our 400+ years Open Enemies When they taught all these people of Color that Jesus & God is White! It makes Negroes Blacker than Darth Vader try to be White & you wonder why Races on this planet hate us they have been indoctrinated with White Supremacy Christianity & you wonder why Brother’s left this Slave Making Religion!

  21. Whose perspective on this issue does Dr. Watkins’ serve? Go from there

  22. Stand your ground Law needs to be examined,when we have laws like this and people are not held accountable for the irresponsible shooting it is wrong law.I think we need to boycott Florida.Keep our money out of their precious state.Florida’s fantasy world needs to be left to them.

  23. Gregory cooper

    Dr Boyce aim nothing but another modern day house n***a!! How is this case a distraction but you didn’t hesitate about going on Anderson cooper to defend that racist red neck b***h Paula dean. You and Jesse Jackson ain’t nothing but some f*****g Uncle Tom a*s house n****z!!!!!

  24. Kenneth McCottry

    Anytime a murderer is taken off the street it is a good thing. Convicting Zimmerman will not resolve the black male violence climate in America. It will however, take a racist murderer off the streets of America. I f let go he is likely to commit another homicide of another young person of color.

  25. A reporter mentioned that the prosecution seemed in collusion with the defense. Wow! This country is so polarized and headed backwards with regards to justice.
    The media angered many with the child photos of Trayvon instead of the current ones. I myself thought they were really how he looked at death. It was election time and the liberal media milked the case to help re elect the president. The right is exacting revenge in this case. These are some sad times. Liberals anxious to give a show of concern for blacks but for their own purposes or ends – fake friends who feign being not racist but actually prove their racism by making this a case about race. Now the right has mounted revenge with prosecution and defense working to right the wrong done by the liberal media. As I have mentioned innocent black and white people are in the middle as pawns in a political game. Friending blacks to promote a selfish cause like the fake n word cause and to help your politician get elected are causing an organized violent reaction against justice and blacks. Some liberals therfore are fake friending us to death. Lord help us.

  26. I do agree with the doctor when she states that this should not be on trial. Zimmerman should have done what he was told stayed in the car!!! He was in a white neighborhood, the cops would have been there before he blinked. Trayvon didn’t have a chance, if he kick Zimmerman’s behind, Zimmerman deserved it. How many people can say what they would do if they were being followed. Yes, some may have continued to run home, but maybe Trayvon didn’t want to bring attention to where he was staying for fear that he would have run trouble back to his home. Maybe he circled around to throw Zimmerman off track (remember he thought that he was going to be attacked). He could have been thinking that Zimmerman was the criminal terrorizing the neighborhood and he was going to be the hero. We don’t know and we will never know. All we know is that this CHILD is dead for wanting Skittles and Tea WOW and the sad thing is, Zimmerman had a gun and all he had to do is call out. If Trayvon was up-to-no-good, Zimmerman could have scared him off, made a report and so-on. There were so many things that Zimmerman could have done without leaving a CHILD dead on the street. Zimmerman should have listened, he had a motive and the motive was to KILL a Black person, a person that he feels is the root to ALL HIS NEIGHBORHOOD’s PROBLEMS. Well Zimmerman what’s next? An All night BUFFET or will you get what you deserve?

    • Who are you to give advice on how to keep your neighborhood safe when old negroes all over america have ALLOWED their neighborhoods to become war zones so deadly they cant even walk freely to the store???

      If you know so much, make your neighborhoods safe!

      Why the heck would a man intent on murder with a gun, allow himself to be beat up first, fool???

      Why would he have called the police over and over fool?

      All your stupid justifications point to nothing but that you are trying to do the same thing you claim zimmerman did – TAKE A WHITE MAN DOWN REGARDLESS OF THE FACT, that all the evidence points to the fact that Trayvon was a lil bad azz n8ggah, trained to be a bad azz n8ggah by old negroes like you, kept bad azz company, and was likely up to something like zimmerman suspected. Who stands around loitering by mailboxes in the rain talking to another criminal so long that he notices someone watching him.

      We’re all being watched 24/7 these days by your govt. And if you arent doing anything wrong you dont mind being watched.

      WHEN THAT BOY MADE IT HOME SAFELY HE SHOULD HAVE WENT INTO THE HOUSE AND CALLED THE POLICE AND TOLD THEM SOMEONE WAS WATCHING AND FOLLOWING HIM. BUT NO,

      HE DID THE STUPID THING THAT DUMB NEGRO PARENTS TEACH THEIR KIDS THESE DAYS

      FACE AGGRESSION WITH AGGRESSION

      BUT THE FOOLS BETTER RECOGNIZE THAT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS CARRY GUNS THESE DAYS TO PROTECT THEMSELF, AND THE LAW SAYS THEY CAN USE THEM.

      THAT IS WHAT YOU TEACH YOUR CHILDREN, TO KEEP DOWN THE VIOLENCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

      • If ignorant is a n****r? My friend. Sandra. Did not Zimmerman assault a cop? Did he not beat up a defenseless woman and lose his job? Is not assault of a police officer a felony? Did not his parents interfere with his convictions illegally? Please respond in a civilized manner?

        • I’ll be watching next week to see that discussed. I havent heard it yet. I thought I knew what happened before the trial and assumed zimmerman 100% guilty until this week.

          Most everything said this week by the male witnesses who stepped outside and photographed him beat up points to innocence.

          I’ll be watching to see what they say about the above next week.

        • I had no idea that girl was the primary witness for the prosecution. I thought black leaders had enough intelligence to make sure that credible intelligent witnesses were involved before bringing this case to the national arena.

          However, I will say that I believe poor Trayvon’s case was brought to light only because black leaders needed something to stir up apathetic black voters to get to the polls, and Trayvon and his parents are being used. My heart really bleeds for his mother. And for Trayvon having such limited friendships that he was hanging with a person who proved she had no respect for him by not attending his wake or funeral, was rude to his mother in her lowest points, and did everything in her power not to get involved. The poor boy and his situation really saddens me.

        • Zimmerman qualified to carry a concealed weapon and to be a florida licensed insurance agent. You cant qualify for either one of those with a felony record.

          Qualifications to carry concealed weapon

          Are you 21 years of age or older?
          Yes No

          Do you suffer from a physical infirmity that prevents the safe handling of a weapon or firearm?
          Yes No

          Do you desire a legal means to carry a concealed weapon or firearm for lawful self-defense?
          Yes No

          Do you have one of the forms of training documentation required under Section 790.06 (2)(h), which demonstrates competency with a firearm? More info
          Yes No

          Have you renounced US citizenship?
          Yes No

          Are you a fugitive from justice? More info
          Yes No

          Are you currently under arrest or charged with any felony? More info
          Yes No

          Are you currently under arrest or charged with any crime punishable by imprisonment for more than one year? More info
          Yes No

          Are you currently under arrest or charged with any crime of violence? More info
          Yes No

          Are you currently under arrest or charged with any crime of domestic violence? More info
          Yes No

          Are you currently under arrest or charged with a crime under the provisions of Chapter 893, Florida Statutes, or similar laws of any other state relating to controlled substances? More info
          Yes No

          Are you currently residing in the United States?
          Yes No

          Are you a United States citizen?
          Yes No

          Have you been convicted of a felony as described in Section 790.23, Florida Statutes? More info
          Yes No

          Have you had adjudication of guilt withheld on any felony?
          Yes No

          Have you received a suspended sentence on any felony?
          Yes No

          Have you had adjudication of guilt withheld on any misdemeanor crime of violence (that was NOT domestic violence)? More info
          Yes No

          Have you received a suspended sentence on any misdemeanor crime of domestic violence? More info
          Yes No

          Have you been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence? More info
          Yes No

          Have you been found guilty of a misdemeanor crime under the provisions of Chapter 893 or similar laws of any other state relating to controlled substances?
          Yes No

          Have you been convicted under Section 790.151 relating to using a firearm while under the influence of alcoholic beverages, chemical substances, or controlled substances?
          Yes No

          Have you been deemed an habitual offender under Section 856.011(3) relating to disorderly intoxication?
          Yes No

          Have you had two or more convictions under Section 316.193 or similar laws of any other state relating to driving under the influence?
          Yes No

          Have you been committed under Chapter 397 (or former Chapter 396) or similar laws of another state for alcohol abuse or controlled substance abuse?
          Yes No

          Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)?
          Yes No

          Have you been issued an injunction that is currently in force and effect restraining you from committing acts of domestic violence or acts of repeat violence? More info
          Yes No

          Have you been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year?
          Yes No

          Have you ever been adjudicated an incapacitated person under Section 744.331, or similar laws of any other state? More info
          Yes No

          Have you ever been involuntarily committed to a mental institution under Chapter 394, or similar laws of any other state? More info
          Yes No

          Are you a veteran of the Armed Forces?
          Yes No

  27. One last thing THE WORLD NEEDS TO PICK UP A WEBSTER DICTIONARY (or the computer dictionary) n****r means IGNORANT (not ignorant black, not ignorant of any race of people; just ignorant) NEGRO- The color black!!! I know back in slavery times the word n****r was thrown out so much when a person was degrading a black person, but when are we as Brown Skin Americans gonna recognize that we shouldn’t allow this word to stir up so much controversy. We have to continue to teach our children is that it is just a word and when someone address us with this we need to start reciting what it means, lets educate the oppressors. When we teach our children about other words that are used to degrade us, hurt us or diminish our self esteem, lets teach them how to non-violently and intelligently defend themselves.

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  29. With the countless comments posted here it looks to me like our community is in the middle of this fight for Justice regardless of how the White Media tries in vain to down play the fever pitch that we all feel at the pure foulness of the killing of one of our Native Sons.

    Remember Black Brothers and Sisters “We were never immigrants!”

    We are the only group that are
    genuine NATIVE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THIS PLACE CALLED AMERICA.

    America was not discovered, it was built by Black Americans.

    Black Americans have never, ever been immigrants!

    Charles Micheaux
    Jekyll Island, Georgia

  30. Dr. Boyce,

    I take issue with points one and four. First, any murder should be treated the same. If a black person had stalked Trayvon, he would have committed the same act. Also, a black security guard would have talked to Trayvon and this incident would not have taken place. If the Security guard had been black, he would have spoken to Trayvon or Trayvon would have spoken to him when Trayvon walked passed the security vehicle. So there is a difference.

    Second, as to your fourth point, when Zimmerman is convicted, that will send a message that you can’t murder black men and get away with it. What drove Zimmerman that night was his delusion that he could kill a black man and get away with it because his supervisors conditioned him to believe that foolishness. This type of behavior is grounded in a belief system that black people don’t matter and that we are not human beings so anybody can do anything to us and get away with it.

    A Zimmerman conviction will save lives.

    • @ DoverDavisJr

      I agree with most of what you have written, however I don’t think that any conviction would necessarilly save lives, and I take that to mean Black lives?

      Although on one hand there is the possibility that a conviction for Zimmerman within your definition would indeed make some whites think twice about killing a Black man/woman but on the other hand it would cause an even bigger gap between Black & white people in America whith whites being more resentful towards us as they are likely to see a Zimmerman conviction as victory for Blacks, and they just can’t bear the thought of us gaining such.

      What we have to remember is the nature of things and their (whites) nature is to control and dominate at all costs.
      If you & I gain the upper hand in something among whites its inevitable that they will orchestrate a way to take away what we may consider to be a gain for us.

      Take for example this recent situation regarding voting rights act. Basically this was something our people secured in the civil rights era and it was later lauded by the American establishment as a landmark victory for Blacks and that it was true democracy in motion.

      However, the SCOTUS has now moved and gutted the Voting Rights Act, which a large majority of us thought all along that having these rights were sacrosanct to the American way of life particularly where we’re concerned but due to recent events it appears that we were wrong.

      In short, when it comes to our affairs in particular whites do not change, they simply re-arrange.
      As long as we fail to actively take the intiative in our own affairs then we will always allow for, and experience the consequences of permissive change.

      I pray that Trayvon’s parents ultimately reap the benefits of justice and I pray that we learn valuable lessons from such tragic and fatal situations like Trayvon’s case and move forward proactively to help ease and eventually eradicate the suffering & oppression we encounter on many different levels.

  31. I don’t get too wrapped up in the Treyvone case, but I know that Zimmerman had no right to take the young mans life.. That’s the bottom line.! Zimmerman had no business with a gun, he was NOT a trained law enforcement personnel. He was going to eventually kill somebody black! it appears that was premeditated murder. He wanted to be a real police to have legal authority to kill black people but was never successful at becoming a police officer. Zimmerman is a coward, He allegedly was on a neighborhood watch I disagree! It seems that he was on a “hunt” that night and Treyvone was his “prey”. Nobody deserves to get murdered by a coward like Zimmerman!

  32. I’m just glad that this particular George Zimmerman of the world is off the street at least for now but does this stance not contradict your story today Dr. Boyce: The Gabriella Calhoun Police Beating – “Negroes in a Barrel” Police Work at It’s Best

  33. Very Confused:

    You say that Zimmerman was only trying to get him to stop until the slow police get there. I have a a few questions: What was he doing to be detained until the slow policemen got there? Had he stolen the Skittles or drink that he had in his procession? Was he peeping in the windows or houses? Was he breaking in cars or houses? Was his pants even too low? Please tell me what made him look suspicious?

  34. The points you raise are very poignant and well noted. Homicides are committed on a daily basis in the United States, and indeed other parts of the world. All are, perhaps, senseless (depending on one’s point of view). There is absolutely nothing “interesting” about a child’s life being taken. I will not repeat all your points, AND I do believe that as a community – the black community – there is much work to be done. However, the notoriety that this particular case has received is perhaps a wake up call for us to delve deeper into how we stand and be counted. How we make a conscious choice to implement actions that will keep our young men safe. We are beyond the intellectual discourse. This is an absolute tragedy. If I had the solutions, I would offer them. Alas, I do not. My hope is that we can individually and collectively use our wisdom, our experiences, our intellect, our financial resources, our courage, our pain and our strength to make sure that at least this black boy’s death was not in vain. Each black boy matters. Trayvon died so we can wake up to the crisis.

  35. My Letter to Black People:

    Black people act like an abused woman who is in love with her abuser. Then she gets mad when she gets hit again. She’s thinking: ‘I thought you changed. I thought I was able to change you. Why am I still going through this? You said you wasn’t going to do that anymore.’ The problem is the abused woman is failing to see the reality of her abuser and because she doesn’t see this, she fails to respond appropriately. She allows her abuser to define her. She has not yet reached her level of self respect where she demands that she will no longer be abused by white people and will take them to a higher authority (United Nations and World Court) for prosecution. She lives in denial. All of the things that she worships white people for actually apply to her but she doesn’t know it. If she looked at her history she will see this but instead she listens to her abuser define her and tell her that she has no history worth looking at, she is ugly, stupid, bad, calls her expletives, etc. Sometimes she will even call herself those same expletives. These things attack the self esteem and self respect that she needs to confront her abuser and free herself. When her self esteem and self respect are attacked and she believes and internalizes this, she will act in self destructive behaviors because she believes she is worthless and is allowing her abuser to define her. This feeling of worthlessness in some Black people results in self destructive behavior among Black people.

    This tactic, on the part of the abuser, is not an accident. It is done on purpose, which is why, for the freedom of Black people to occur, we must know our history. In it, you will find your truth as well as the truth of the white man, your abuser, and it will reveal the lies that the white man, your abuser, has been telling you for centuries. It will reveal their criminality and savagery. Remember, the abuser is a killer and has no remorse. Remember the Native Americans. His lack of remorse is shown every day as he celebrates his ancestors who killed, raped, enslaved and stolen from our ancestors. And if he can control and condition your mind enough, he will have you celebrating them also. This shows you what he is. By doing this, he is telling you what he is.

    When the abused woman has really had enough, and she needs to develop self esteem and self respect to do so, (learning her truth and history is a great way to gain self esteem and self respect, which, again, is why white people discourage Black people from learning our history), she can free herself or die trying. She must decide that she will live free and not as a slave, (mental or otherwise) or die trying.

    They tell us not to look at our history. They say it’s in the past so forget about it. They present it under the context of white supremacy (slavery, struggle for civil rights, etc) but NOT our ancient history. They present us with European history: the Greeks and Romans, who actually were educated under the Africans but they don’t want you to know that so they can have you worshiping Greeks and Romans and not the Africans who taught them. They will tell you they brought civilization to the peoples of the world when in fact, it was African people who did this. It was Africans (Moors) who attempted to civilize Europeans during their Dark Ages when they went there in 711 AD when the Europeans were dying from their own filth and diseases. Europeans, particularly the Spanish, responded to this with the expulsion of the Moors from Europe in 1492 and the implementation of the slave trade, just as they responded to the Native Americans in North America who taught them how to survive the harsh winters with genocide and stealing the land … and you celebrate Thanksgiving every year. Save their lives and they’ll kill you. These abusive people do these acts to Blacks all over the world.

    In the US, Blacks should think of this country as the house in which the abuse takes place. They beat us, kill us, rape us, rob us, lie to us, trick us, mislead us, condition us to hate ourselves so we commit self destructive acts, (which is a function of the system of racism/white supremacy and our self destructive behavior feeds the system of racism/white supremacy, which is why they want us to continue so they can use that as a justification to destroy us) and do all of these things to keep us subordinated to them so they can ultimately kill us and / or use us to make them money (slavery – like the prison industrial complex).

    We have integrated into a society that has a racist / white supremacist ideology. White people are not going to change this. Our subordination (mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, economic, cultural, educational – or rather, our miseducation) brings them benefits. This is why whites celebrate their ancestors who have killed, raped, enslaved, stolen from and terrorized our ancestors (Columbus, Washington, Jefferson, Cortez, etc.) because these people brought tremendous benefits to white people from the crimes they committed against our ancestors and at our ancestor’s expense. This is why ‘Black’ is considered to be bad, wrong, ugly, evil, etc. This is why the media shows negative and / or stereotypical images of Blacks. This is why there is police brutality and injustice in the courts. This is why there is the funneling of crack into the Black neighborhoods by the Federal government. This is why there is a criminalization of the image of Black people to more easily put them into prisons to provide workers in the prison industrial complex. This is why they claim that the children of the Black pyramid builders, science and mathematics discovers, arts and architecture originators, etc. are not intelligent. This is why they don’t show Blacks as intellectuals but as entertainers (sports, music, dancing, comedy, drama). They teach lies and distortions to our children in their integrated schools. They claim Blacks are on welfare when in fact, colonialism, imperialism and slavery are welfare systems for whites because they are living off of our lands, resources and labor that they have stolen from us. They present us as criminals when they acquired and hold our lands, resources and labor through criminal acts. They say Blacks are lazy when our labor not only supported them but built this country in the first place. They show us as violent when it is through their violence that they acquired our lands, resource, labor … and even US! Other examples of their violence are police brutality, rapes, the violence of the klan, lynchings and castrations, destruction of our Black Wall Streets like Rosewood, FL and Tulsa, OK as well as others (therefore destroying our economic base and independence), the decimation of the Native American population, not to mention what they do to themselves. In fact, they ran out of Europe to escape their own violence which included anything from the Inquisitions, religious persecutions, witch hunts and tortures of various kinds. Modern day examples of their white on white violence includes shooting sprees in malls, colleges, high schools and even children in elementary schools. So Black people, we must not allow ourselves to be defined by such a violent culture of people. If Black people allow themselves to be defined by this society, then they will think badly of themselves and they will exhibit the negative, self destructive behavior that many of us have. We must look to our ancient ancestor’s example of correct living (Maat for example) and relate to each other according to that model.

    After our abusers do all of this to us, they tell us to forget that all of this has happened and it’s all in the past (forget our history), forgive them (as the white Jesus commands) and the abused woman obeys. Then, the cycle starts again. The abused woman also refuses to see what is in front of her face every day, which is the reality of what has happened to her neighbors who suffered under the same abuse: the absence of the Native Americans.

    Black people – learn your history, understand colonialism, imperialism, and the SYSTEM of racism/white supremacy. The system of racism / white supremacy is a calculated, orchestrated system, not a bunch of isolated acts of discrimination and hate as you might think it is. Know that the systems of colonialism, imperialism and racism/white supremacy are the systems that support white people but destroy us and white people are not going to destroy the systems that support them, regardless of how friendly or nice they may appear to you. Some may appear to be assisting you by attacking the SYMPTOMS of these systems, but they will never attack the heart of these systems directly. Therefore, they are complicit with these systems and are keeping them in place while they are presenting you with a false image of themselves that you are believing as true. Don’t pay attention to the superficial stuff they do as a people. Look at the TRUTH of the BEHAVIOR and the END RESULTS that they want: non-white population decimation, acquisition of other’s land and resources for their own benefit, mass slavery for their own benefit (mental and physical slavery), falsification and forgery of Black historical figures. These acts are done for our destruction. Black Christians – research your history so you will find the person you call Jesus was actually Black. Research the Black Madonna and Child and its origins. Find out WHY the IMAGE of Jesus was changed from Black to white, which was to get you to pray to WHITE. Read Neely Fuller and study the works of Dr. Frances Cress Welsing on the system of racism / white supremacy. Civil Rights is like asking the abuser for justice because his courts are in his house. Go to the United Nations World Court as a people and tell the world EVERYTHING about the abuse we have suffered in this stolen house called the United States. Quick, easy lesson to prove in human genetics: if a Black person and a white person have a baby together, the baby would be a ‘person of color’. That means that Blacks are genetically dominant in terms of skin color to whites. Therefore, the first human beings on the planet had to be Black. White people can not produce a person that is genetically dominant to themselves. If the first people on the planet were white, everyone would be white. But Black people can produce an albino (a genetically recessive person). Understand, as Dr. Frances Cress Welsing states, The Creator of the Universe made the original human being Black and all of the other colors of people come from Black people. If you hate yourself because you are Black, then you hate what The Creator of the Universe has made. If you learn to love yourself and love what The Creator of the Universe created when He created you (Original Human Being, who was Black), then you can access that Creative Force to help you to free yourself. Bottom line: learn to love yourself and other Black people, stop engaging in self destructive behavior, stop allowing yourself to be defined IN ANY WAY by your abuser, learn your history and decide once and for all, that you will NO LONGER BE ABUSED by a people that your color produced on the planet that The Creator of the Universe put YOU in first. Black people, you are the first people to inhabit all lands on this planet so stop allowing yourselves to be defined, and ultimately destroyed, by the last people to appear on the planet.
    Once we are successful freeing ourselves as a people, worldwide, then we can concentrate on healing the planet that has been poisoned by the abuser during it’s sick pursuit of wealth and power that it wanted for its own benefit but at the tremendous expense of others. They treat the Earth the same way they treat us. See what they do to The Creator’s creations? Then, we can live on the Earth according to the indigenous wisdom of our ancient Black ancestors and the guidance of The Creator, who put us here in the first place.
    Wake up sleeping giant. Black people, go to the United Nations World Court.
    With MUCH, MUCH, MUCH LOVE
    P.S. Trayvon Martin – May you rest in peace in the presence of The Creator of the Universe, the One who created you as He created the first Black human being. Ultimately, you will have justice.

  36. Ok i want to start off by saying black on black crime has nothing to do with this!! I hate when people bring that up to justify what happen in this case. Most “black on black crime” happens when BOTH parties are feel the same way. Meaning both are the type of people that are ready to except the out come. Not saying that its right. In this case this was an good child. TRAYVON MARTIN WAS CLEARLY NOT A “THUG”!!! Thats why it hurt so much!!!!!

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  38. Bring it on you filthy stupid niggorillas. Whites will eventually exterminate your subhuman monkeyfaced dna from the entire universe. You scumbag apes deserve it and you will GET WHAT YOU DESERVE…..SCIENCE WILL END YOUR SAVAGERY VERY SOON. Your so-called “people” are HATED by actual humans and your war on civilization will soon cease….

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