Tom Joyner Says Kilpatrick, Jackson Convictions Keep Obama From Choosing Black Cabinet Members
by Nigel Boys, BlackBlueDog.com
Kwame M. Kilpatrick, 42, former mayor of Detroit was convicted of corruption charges on Monday. He was convicted of 24 counts extortion, mail fraud, tax violations, and racketeering. Bobby Ferguson, one of Kilpatrick’s associates, was convicted on nine counts of extortion and racketeering. Bernard Kilpatrick, Kwame’s father, was convicted of one count of filing a false tax return.
Kilpatrick now faces a sentence that could lead to up to 20 years in jail. During the trial, he was described as an unscrupulous politician who took bribes, rigged contracts and lived a life that was far beyond his means while serving as the mayor of Detroit.
One columnist wrote, “I’m completely disgusted with Kwame Kilpatrick. He’s a thief and a liar who betrayed the black residents of Detroit who expected so much and received so little. Kilpatrick, perhaps the most underhanded mayor in Detroit’s history, got the verdict he deserved.”
After considering the evidence against Kilpatrick for almost two weeks after a five month long trial, the jury gave their verdict to United States District Judge Nancy G. Edmunds.
During the trial, Kilpatrick was accused of using the city of Detroit as his own “private profit machine,” by prosecutors. Once a rising political star, Kilpatrick has seen his star diminish over time and his family shamed by a long list of allegations that he broke the law. His supporters, however, say that he was set up for failure and was no more corrupt than any other politician.
“I saw a lot that really, really turned my stomach,” one juror told reporters. ”I couldn’t believe this kind of thing was going on… but there was never any anger. Disappointment is all I feel.”
However, not all people feel that Kilpatrick is guilty as charged. Some believe that he is being made an example of because of racism.
“Racism and ignorance is still profound in this city,” Omarrai Ali, one of Kilpatrick’s former students, told The Detroit Free Press. “They charged that man like he was Al Capone; like he had a criminal organization. This is flabbergasting.”
Unfortunately, more Black politicians, over the last few weeks, have been brought up on charges of corruption. Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. recently pleaded guilty to numerous charges that could lead to prison time, and former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is also being charged with corruption. Some say that this is part of a disturbing trend to take down black politicians.
Tom Joyner, host of “The Tom Joyner Morning Show,” said, “First Junior Jesse, now Kwame. I hope Ray Nagin is the last.”
Joyner went on to say, “It’s no secret that I thought 10 years ago that Kwame would be the first Black President. Now because of the crimes he’s been found guilty of committing, he and other Black politicians are limiting the Big Chief’s choices when it comes to appointing black cabinet members. It’s a sad day for America, Detroit, black people and most importantly, Kwame’s family. He’s a husband, a dad and a son….who could have been great.”
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I get tired of Blacks being always portrayed as victims” If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime” When they are caught with there hands in the cookie jar, they should be convicted just as anyone else.
I agree with you James, however, statistics don’t support that Black folk are convicted and sentenced just as anyone else.
We receive longer sentences, why is that?
And what do you suggest we do about that?
Elect more black judges,
Now that goes to education, since you can’t put a street thug into a judgeship!
Maybe we will learn one day if their were more highly educated blacks it would make a huge difference!
I dont know if more black or women judges are the answer. They seem to be making some foolish decisions lately and many are only interested in court TV money, rather than REAL serious cases.
JUDGE JUDY even has the nerve to have slot machines with her pic on them in the casino now!!!
I just dont respect the law any more.
Stop spending our money with people who do not and will not ever have any good intentions in their hearts for us. To use examples of those lost Negros who try
ied to emulate the evil ways of corrupt white people that encouraged those dumb Black Folk to play a game of dirty politics that is designed for those who can afford to pay off all the major players; such as the judges,police,and the media.
Here’s some food for thought (if you can digest); Black Folk should stop spending our money, demand that local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies take control of our streets ( by any means necessary), and educate our youth as well as reeducate the adults, rehabilitate those who are
going to return to society (inmates), and then — watch the hate that white folk will openly display towards Black Folk for being successful.
If you think it’s an open season on Black Folk by the Black uneducated drug dealers and thieves- with their easy access to guns that are made and sold by white folk, along with the open season of white men randomly killing us day after day– oh let’s not forget those killers in blue suits who have a pass to kill us at will. For one to insist forBlack Folk to go to school–well I’m not sold on that one either. The results are in– what have these Black Folk do for their communities who have went to these backward schools. Where did these corrupt Black Folk go- in order to get in a position to steal they had to go to your schools; and were not taught nothing worthwhile- that’s why they became worthless. As far as becoming a judge to judge the mislead Black Folk WNO tried to do as corrupt white folk do– here’s a better solution– teach the Black Youth to be productive from grade school to adulthood; train them to be employable versus becoming a commodity for the penal industrial complexes that profit off of their cheap labor. I actually think white Americans need to be reeducated, so they can try to be more civil and learn how to be honest human beings. The Native Americans, Black Americans, Japanese Americans, and all other people who can bare the truth will agree.
So try to sober up from your drunkenness and be somebody worthwhile being—- like a Honest Man– at least honest to yourself.
Peace
You have got to be an ignorant white person. Anyone who takes that absurbed statement serious has to be white and stupid. That is the most ridicilous public statement I have ever heard in some time by any black person. Only an ignorant fool like you would consider it something to take serious. The biggest problem with people like you is that you do not know what we are talking about. So you don’t know what to think about what we say. You have no aptitude in this. You simple draw a white blank. That is why you people reguritate talking points over and over.
James, it is “their” not “there”.
You should be sentenced for not being educated.
@James– Uncle Tom shall we say
Just today, Florida’s republican Lt Gov Carroll, who is of caribbean descent, resigned her post because of racketeering and internet cafes which are really ruses for illegal gambling
I agree with you wholeheartedly but I will say that in corporate america, I watched rascist whites overlook qualified blacks in favor of fools they could control, and all these convictions just might be the result.
Tom Joyner comments is typical of Black America, and if TJ would have done his research he’d be amazed how many Blacks work for the President. Have TJ considered qualifications plays an intricate part of hiring? It has nothing to do if you’re white or black. Also, K. Kalpatrick did that to himself. Just like Marion Barry of Washington DC they both used there heads in there pants instead of the ones on there shoulders.
One of my well-known copyright 2013: Stuck on Stupid, Sitting on Silly, and waiting on “DUMB” Kalpatrick and Barry could have been a great roll model for future young minority men globally, but they chose greed and s*x.
I really wish color doesn’t matter in America. But it does and you know it does, rather you’d admit that fact or not.
There are well qualified African Americans.
One well qualified individual is our president. But the other political party decided (in their minds) that the Harvard graduate is dumb, stupid, socialist tantamount to Hitler and must fail at every turn.
Do you support that group?
How can this old bald headed negroid say some shyt like that? His show is NOTHING, but buffoonery, and comical bullshyt with that old ‘has been’ comic.
I’m sick of these negroids taking up for this mulatto, who don’t give a da.mn about US. O’Drama DOES NOT WANT ANY BLACK MEN ON HIS CABINET BECAUSE HE HATES BLACK MEN…PERIOD…END OF STORY!!! Look at all the females he has hired? Are y’all eyes open or closed?
I have never seen so many negroids, who can’t see the way this mullato is treating us. He’s a ‘glorified screacha’, and y’all know, these negroids love their screachas, regardless, if they do right or wrong!
How come this old co.on didn’t mention ALL these yankees, who have committed crimes, and are still ‘jail free’? What about that old racist yankee, who served in office for decades, and was a former klanner…strong thrumond? This kracker HATED Black people, and probably hung them before he became a poli(TRICKSTER)!!! Did he go to jail for his crimes against Black people?
The uNUTed snakes of azzholes has committed more crimes on INNOCENT PEOPLE, than any nation on this planet with their wars…are these bullies, and terrorist going to jail? Are O’Drama and Holder in jail for these drones that are flying around in our communities, ILLEGALLY, WHICH ARE INVADING OUR PRIVACY?
Like I always say, these new age slaves are SICK!!!
Joyner, and the rest of these O’Drama-ites will drink this mullato’s bath water…SCUM AND ALL!!!
These bootlickin’ slave-azz negroids, ain’t shyt on a stick; nothing, but a bunch of caucasoid boy lovin’ negroids. Remember, Joyner is a bought negroid, and he just made that statment to remain on the white boy’s plantation radio station!!!
AND, Y’ALL WONDER WHY I CALL THEM ‘NEGROIDS’!!!
I’m gone!
Tom Joyner’s assertion is absurd. One only has to look at the Attorney General, as evidence to refute his claim. The real issue of President Obama selecting blacks, and especially black males to serve on his cabinet, has more to do with the withering confirmation process. Van Jones was a classic example of what happens to a minority, and especially a black male, who serves at the White’s House. A black female has a better chance, because the TOP is reluctant to assail any female, because they want to avoid looking like bullies, but they are certainly not above it. Finally, TJ needs to look closer at the number of blacks, especially black males, who have risen to the level of deputy, or senior excecutive level, under the Obama Administration, clearly positioning them to assume the leadership roles of various departments and directorates under the next Democratic administration, where President Obama’s enemies will no longer be able to use his race as a justification for attacking him, and everything he does.
MadMax, THANK YOU
@Derrick, You are very skilled in Ignorance,
I bet your gravestone will read; He had a Bootlickin slave-azz shyt on a stick mind,”Scum and All”
Rest In Agony.
You one-legged co.ckroach, why don’t you go dig your grave, jump in, and see if Uncle Sambo Joyner, or O’Drama will come visit your trifling azz!
You negroids/caucasoids are so infactuated with this mullato, being a ‘negroid’ president you’re happier than a ‘free’ slave!!!
GO LICK THAT NEGROID’S AZZ WITH SHYT IN IT!!!
Get em derrick. LOL and to think i used to like that tom joyner. what the heck happened to him? he is crazy as a loon now
You are truly an ignorant p***k.
keith “fart” bond:
Your pappy is a trans.exual!!!
Like pappy; like daughter, I mean, son!!!
You NIGorant negroids are SICK!!!
derrick add your self to the old fart dusty geezer crowd and leave tom joyner alone.This mullato has help more black people in racist amerikkka with his money and time than you and your crowd of clowns, cartoon and ignorance can ever dream too.derrick you spend the white boys money to eat,shelter, and live so u are on the plantation called amerikkka.Tom has a right to call out black folks that do dumb shyt wrong or right its only his opinion like every body thats on this post.derrick don’t get gone i need a geezer like you to point out how ignorance is a disease thats contagious!! President Obama rules and you derrick changing your dentures and shytty pampers!!
The article’s headline is misleading. Joyner was referring to the increasing number of high profile Black politicians being prosecuted for criminal activity, thereby taking themselves out of the candidate pool for cabinet positions. These elected officials have the most experience and credentials to serve in the President’s cabinet. Being charged with criminal acts, eliminates them as viable candidates and reduces the size of the Black candidate pool. Listen, when Blacks with sqeaky clean service records and impeccable résumés, like Susan Rice for instance, can’t even get to the nomination process for a cabinet appointment, what chance does a Black candidate have who is under indictment? That’s all the brother was saying.
Cool minds prevail, Thank you bro.
Man. Oh man oh man. Susan Rice. Sqeeky clean? Really? And you say that individuals with the most experience and credentials serve in the President’s cabinet? Wow. His cabinet is full of war criminals and wall street crooks from previous administrations. They don’t get charged because they are immune to the rule of law. They are worse than any money laundering black politicians. Those guys wreck world economies and break national and international laws everyday. For goodness sakes man, Obama bragged about having a kill list. That’s illegal. Drone strikes. That’s illegal. Signing laws that destroy civil liberties. That’s illegal.
But I understand. Obama speaks so well. Those sweet lies coming out of his mouth are all we need. And MSNBC reinforcing them to us everyday. I feel warm and fuzzy when Obama speaks. Don’t you? Who needs morals, research, and good judgement when a black president takes care of all of that for us?
@The Shine Has Worn Off:
You couldn’t have said it better. There’s nothing I can add. Our ppl r soooo docile, stupid & blind when it comes to this corporate puppet mulatto n The Rock House. All this c**p about “cedentiala” would b funny if it weren’t so sad & pathetic! All u gotta b is white & criminal to fit the bill for The Rock House. U r right on point!
@The Shine Has Worn Off:
You couldn’t have said it better. There’s nothing I can add. Our ppl r soooo docile, stupid & blind when it comes to this corporate puppet mulatto n The Rock House. All this c**p about “credentials” would b funny if it weren’t so sad & pathetic! All u gotta b is white & criminal to fit the bill for The Rock House. U r right on point!
Ronald…thank you for your point about Joyner’s statement being taken out of context because I know YBW/BBD are notorious for misleading articles to generate profit.
But I say even if Joyner’s statement was taken out of context, Joyner should’ve never insinuated that the pool of black candidates would shrink due to black politicians being arrested.
I say this because if you look at the politicians who have been arrested, none of them would have been considered for a cabinet position. Therefore, Joyner’s statement is anecdotal and should have never been said because it comes off as an excuse to protect President Obama from attacks on his despicable record on hiring blacks in his administration.
@ron: “like Susan Rice for instance, can’t even get to the nomination process for a cabinet appointment, what chance does a Black candidate have who is under indictment? That’s all the brother was saying.”
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What a closed minded statement!!!
Just because Kwame and Messy Jessy are going to the clink, there are PLENTY of other Black men, with IMPECCABLE RECORDS, who O’Drama could pick to serve on his cabinet!!!
You talk, as if O’Drama was going to pick one those brothers, but your comment does not make sense!!! Kwame has already spent time in jail, and Messy Jessy has been under the camera, since O’Drama has been in office; therefore, don’t you think O’Drama know about these escapades by these brothers?
Like I said before, a racist klanner, Strong Thurmond was in office for decades, who raped a Black woman, and had a baby by her, but did he go to jail?
WAKE UP DUDE!!!
Kwane Kilpatrick got what was coming to him it was only a matter of time before his house came tumbling down. I don’t feel sorry for him one bit. He was elected to serve the people of Detroit. He choose to parties and money over what he was elected to do. h**l the way i feel he should have gotten 30yrs. TJ need to shut to h**l up and sit is behind down. Kwane should have though about his family before he started to do all this shyt. Yes, he is a husband a dad and son who could have been great but he chose to be crook. How could TJ mentioned a husband what kind of husband was he if he was sleeping around.
Derrick, take a chill pill, my brother. You seem to be filled with anger and self-hatred. Haven’t you heard that many years ago it was decided that the term “mulatto” (which you spell two different ways) is racist and not to be used regarding fair-skinned black people? Disagree with Tom Joyner all you want; just leave out the name-calling.
@ruby tuesday:
I don’t have to take shyt; why don’t YOU quit being a slave!
Is this a spelling bee contest? Don’t worry about my spelling, as long as the point gets across that’s all that matters.
mullatto/mulatto/mullato = negro/negroid/negress: same thang; different name. They’re all chocolate covered caucasoids!!!
WHICH ONE ARE YOU?
Why all of this hatred and name calling? Malcolm X (my mentor) stated (and I am para-phrasing) that one uses cursing and name calling to hide their ignorance. All this name calling is non-productive.
@Derrick:
Keep it comin! U got a right to b as angry as u r! If these negroids had a clue, which many of them don’t, they would b madder than h*ll also. Unfortunately, that MULATTO n The Rock House have got em all n a stupor filled daze.
Kilpatrick is proof that you should hire the person most qualified, not because of their race or color etc. Obama hires and should hire the people qualified for the job, not just because they are black. No one, black, white, hispanic, asian whatever should be hired for any job based on simply race or color.
Was George Bush hired for his stellar qualifications?
Thank you Ronald, and I don’t believe he was!!!!!!!
Get it right> George Bush was not hired but elected.
The Supreme Court SELECTED Georgie Bush! I think u need to get it right!
The Supreme Court SELECTED that criminal Georgie Bush! I think u need to get it right!
Why is it when white folks hire whites, you never hear people talk about qualified, race or color. But as soon as black people are in charge and think about hiring blacks, suddenly qualifications, race etc is the requisite for the process. SMDH Some of you Negroes need to wake up and rid yourself of Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.
d**n!!!!! obama was hired because he has a black face.
I hever paid much attention to Tom Joyner. He has got to be crazy if he ever thought Kwame Kilpatrick would ever been the first Black President. And what does the problems of a few black politicians have to do with the whole? I believe they are held to a higher standard than their white counterpart. But this does not have anything to do with Obama appointing cabinet members. This whole point of Joyner is totally ridicilous.
Has anyone stopped to realize that the Mayor only did these alleged things due to his tragic childhood?? In his upbringing, he was educated in the School of Welfare and Section 8 Housing. He was trained to “get what you can while you can.” He was a good student. Leave him alone.
Laquame; Then why did you elected him to the office of Mayor?
Or are you saying the whole city of Detroit has these same problems?
LIE. Kwame was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His mother was a member of congress and a state legislator before that. His father is well known political fixer. He was given everything he had in life and threw it all away.
Kilpatrick did not come from a welfare family and he attended an explemary(sic) school. His mother was a political figure and I am quite sure she tried to tell him the correct and proper way to deal with being a mayor. He is a class book example of narcissism. Where did you get the idea that he had a “tragic” childhood which is clearly untrue. Regardless, there is no excuse for bad behavior.
America hates black people…………….always has and probably always will, for whatever time it has left in the eyes of God as America refuses to atone for the sins and madness it has committed against black folks, including its most malicious crime of brutalizing us physically and psychologically to the point of unconscious inbred “self hate.” And we shouldn’t be ashamed of our scars. No one could not be damaged by all of the damage that’s been done to us; and it has only been modernized. It’s amazing that any of us are sane at all considering what America has, and continues to do to destroy us.
The Obama presidency really is, in my mind, analogous to the socio/politico climate that the championship wins of pugilist Jack Johnson, America’s first black heavyweight champion, stirred when he would win a fight. The reaction of the white populace would be to go on a witch hunt to beat, maim, and slaughter as many blacks as possible; and the mayhem would spread like wildfire across the plains.
Well, that’s what’s happening with the event of the election of the first black president. This is why we must begin to teach our children their history versus trying to erase it away in vain. It’s a stupid exercise in futility as one learns from experience and history and you cannot run away from one’s shadow. With us, as a black people, it seems that the more things change, the more they stay the same. That’s because we don’t learn from our history because we try to run away from it, instead of learning from it in order to tweak our ways, especially as relates to our love of self, honoring our Elders, Ancestors, History, Women and Children. Those are the key elements of love of self and God as your Ancestors lead to God. Everyone get that but us.
That said, I believed from the outset that Kwame was too young to be in such an important and powerful position, especially for a major wild wild west, shamelessly criminal element town such as Detroit. It takes maturity, time and wisdom to swing that load, no matter which side of the fence you’re playing; and its always a little of both in politics and life itself it seems. Kwame was too young to understand humility for one. He was a golden child, but all children must have time on the planet experience under their belts to become adults, especially adults in public leadership positions. Ditto for Jesse, Jr.
We are in some very dark times. As a result, we must be leery of the fact that all evil empires fall. That’s 100% true. And there’s not been an evil empire that has committed the level of atrocities that America has wielded against us, and that’s despite the many, many [ad museum ] number of gifts we’ve given America.
Yet, all that we forever seem to get in return is contempt, sacrilege level blasphemy, animosity, betrayal, incarceration, destruction of family, cradle to prison system matrix system, and systemically facilitated slaughter of our children in the streets, homes and all matter of mayhem.
However, we aid and abet every chance we get as the psychological effects of the inhumane level of torture waged against us has rendered us tired, sick and tired and just hanging on for dear semblance of any quality of life as America is HATING US AND ITSELF TO DEATH. AND THAT HATE IS PARTICULARLY SPEWED TOWARDS THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT IT AND MADE IT THE MOST ALLURING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD DUE TO THE FLAVORS OF COLORFUL LOVE WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE IN SPITE OF THE THANKLESSNESS THAT AMERICA HAS DEMONSTRATED TOWARDS US. IT DOESN’T REALIZE THAT THE GIG IS UP. YOU CANNOT OPERATE IN HATE AND INSATIABLE ME, I GREED AND PROSPER. HATE IS AS HATE DOES. IT’S A” NO WIN” FOR EVERYONE — NATIONALLY AND NOW GLOBALLY. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US — ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US WHO LOVE HER.
Joia thank you for sharing your Universal Knowledge with us today. Thank you. Thank you.
I live, work with, and worship with Whites every day, AND I DONT FEEL HATED!!! Some are annoying and difficult but I learned they are hurting people who do things sometimes not because of race, but because of their innate insecurities and need to control even a blade of grass. LOL LOL
Ever notice how they are determined to control the earth, and everything in it. They kill off animals in shelters, then ask you to adopt.
They only allow certain types of grass to grow, and weed/feed the rest with poison chemicals.
They wont let you marry, have a business, or drive unless they approve you getting a license.
On and On. BLACK PEOPLE WHO NEVER LEARNED OR LIVED WITH WHITES DONT UNDERSTAND THEM, BUT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE LIVED, WORKED, AND WORSHIPPED WITH THEM BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAKES THEM TICK.
AN OLD WHITE LADY AT MY CHURCH SAID LAST WEEK THAT SHE KNEW THAT WE ALL CAME FROM AFRICA, AND EVERY WHITE PERSON AT THE TABLE AGREED.
TIMES ARE CHANGING, KEEP LIVING, BE SAFE, AND DO THE BEST YOU CAN. DONT GIVE IN TO EVIL TEMPTATIONS LIKE CRIME AND DRUG USE, AND YOUR CHANCES OF SURVIVAL GO WAY UP.
Yep. Nice Essay. Stay Up.
Jolia, what we must do is to start loving ourselves and each other. We are only doing what main stream society expect of us. I do agree with you, we must teach each other and the ones coming behind us, the TRUE history of America and it’s not pretty!
Kwame, Jesse Jr., Nagin, Marion Barry, Bill Campbell and other bright Black politicians seem to think that they can do what WHITE politicians do and get away with it!! All of these people had great political futures ahead of them. But, they p****d it away. They should have known that “they let whites retire, but they send us to jail”.
Given the political climate at this time, I agree with TJ. Any Black person the President would choose for his cabinet will be attacked by the likes of Lindsey Graham, John McCain and other politicos with racist tendencies. However, if the candidate meets the vetting process criteria, Obama shouldn’t let the racists scare him away. People like Corey Booker will certainly be put to the test!!
Our President don’t have many blacks in his cabinet because he don’t want them and neither do the people he choose or is appointed to run the white house. There are no blacks running wall street,which brought the nation to its knees. Its talked about, but no faces have emerged. The largest treasonous rip-off in the history of this country. We kill our own, when they fall. How many greedy money laundering schemes that have taken place, insurance and medicaid fraud, countless acts of corruption. But when we fall, its off to h**l with no return, you make it hard on the rest of us. He may have been greedy, but whatever he did, he will never measure up to what has already happened to this country of checks and balances. I like Tom Joyner, maybe he’s not really black, so he don’t really understand.
Uh…yeah, no
There may only be Eric Holder that is in the cabinet, but there are other high-ranking Blacks that have been appointed by President Obama. Ron Kirk: U.S. Trade Rep; Lisa Jackson, EPA Admin; and of course Susan Rice, UN Ambassador.
As for Wall Street, there are Blacks running things on Wall Street. And unfortunately, you can place blame one at least one for the crash…who to a HUGE golden parachute on his way out the door.
Stanley O’Neal
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1848501_1848500_1848459,00.html
From Black Enterprise: “75 Most Powerful Blacks on Wall Street”
(article from November 7, 2011)
http://www.blackenterprise.com/mag/75-most-powerful-blacks-on-wall-street-2/3/
I bet there were plenty of people who thought Kwame was too young for the job. I bet there were plenty of people who knew he couldn’t be trusted. This type of corruption comes with a certain personality type. I bet he always thought he was “above”. Nobody listened and they didn’t pay attention to the signs. Why? Because when black people see one of our own who can actually make a difference and do great things,instead of keeping them on track, we feed their ego. We let them think they can do no wrong. We shoot down anyone that tries to tell them to cool it. This is what we get..corrupt, self entitled thieves and liars.
Given the mix bag of PTSD responses in the threaded postings, I shall attempt to be brief, with a first principled, reasoned response : 1) Tom Joyner has every right to his, always, uninformed, upside down, intellectually challenged opinions, which rarely carry any weight in reality world of most of Black America. 2)There are very bright brothers and sisters in prison that are more well-read; more well informed and thus, more intellectually astute than Kwame Kilpatrick could be in the next three life times. Kwame Kilpartick is an apple from a generational tree deeply rooted in a Negroid mentality. His youth has had nothing to do with is now, political and social demise, however his up-bringing did. 3)If George W. Bush in all of his overt, profound ignorance and his great difficulty handling the English Language can become President of these United States, than I assure that President Obama could find God given, raw talented, Black dog catchers with the intellectual prowess that could fill a number of his cabinet positions and do far better in performance than former PRESIDENT George W. Bush. Finally, the U.S. Government routinely publishes quality of life and standard of living statistics for America by race, ethnicity and gender… you will find that when you examine all of the factors that impact one’s OPPORTUNITY to actualize the “American Dream”, skin color regardless of educational attainment, marketable skills and/or personal accomplishments, is the single, most pronounced factor that matters in racialized America.
I don’t know why some of our Black Politicians have to be so dumb and/or stupid. They have to know that they are being watched by the White Power Structure. The powers that be will take the tiniest piece of impropriety and turn it into front page news while White Politicians get away with a slap on the wrist. However, Black Politicians must always operate openly and above board and not put themselves in a position to be questioned about their performance in office.
Yep.
Cory Booker, Van Jones, Some college professor, and no black male appointments? If u want one, as in Obama’s case u can find one. Yale and Harvard don’t have any brothers? Or his home state of Illinois, U of I and UIC?…Fvck Tom Boyner! ! No excuses. ..Maat …
Way to hit these dumb azz negroids!!!
These stupid negroids don’t OBSERVE shyt!
When ever a negroid talks about O’Drama and the crackers on his staff, they defend these poli(tricksters) like a collar to a dog!!!
I SAY, FVCK Uncle Sambo Tom, and these bootlickin’ dumb azz negroids, who ALWAYS make excuses for this Black hatin’ mullato!!!
Maat!
I read the comments and I am now affirmed that we all have opinions about the plight of the Black Man in this society. Many blame the culture of racism while others displays outright self-hatred and the things that we we can agree upon. Mr. Joyner has his opinion and you don’t have to agree but why do we denigrate him for his opinion. There are more than one valid opinion. Secondly, it is no excuse when we decide to violate the trust of the people because others did and was not punished. they both should be held accountable.(Black or white) The President as other Black Leaders should not receive a free pass for forgetting the Black constituents. Finally, with all said we should read more on the process and respond accordingly. We as voters should hold elected officials accountabile, and at the same time “look in the mirror.”
Please people, some of you need to go back to school, along with Boyce, and take a reading comprehension class. Tom Joyner, did not say that kilpatrick’s, and Jesse Jackson’s convictions were keeping the President from selecting Black people from being selected to his cabinet, as the false title of this story states. He merely stated that the pool of distinguished, high caliber Black potential nominees, has grown smaller. Boyce, takes everything that is said about President Obama, out of context, and turns it into a racist diatribe against him. Boyce, is an illiterate a*****e.
Go easy on him Derrick but I thing I will go with Ronald take on this. Brother Ronald’s take some home make sense to some extent. On the other hand where is that smallest community in the united States of America dominated the cabinet of both president Bush and president Obama?
I am talking about the Jews community. 70 – 80 or more of these president’s cabinets are Jews. The question is What about the rest of Americans? They are hiding under the color “WHITES”. As we all keep saying White people, White people, they are not just ordinary white people; these are the Zionist Jews who have dominated the government of both President Obama and President Bush. Hiding under the color white has enabled them to camouflage their activities. It has always been like that people, even in Slavery days, the Hard core Slave traders are Jews but they hide under the nationalities like Portuguese, Spanish, and Dutch.
Having black people appointed to administrative cabinet positions means nothing if they serve corporate interest and the establishment. The may as well be from any other race who works for the establishment’s goal of turning us all into third world residents. Eric Holder says there will be no prosecution of, or charges brought against any of the wall street criminals who wrecked the economy. His words basically……”Too big to fail, too big to jail”. Above the law. He also couldn’t state the facts about whether his boss, being a constitutional scholar president, has the legal constitutional authority to kill American citizens on U.S. soil without due process. Again. Above the law.
Who needs black politicians if all they do is continue down the road of fascism?
Yep.
Very true! It used to b that American blks were thought of differently worldwide b/c of our struggles against racism & oppression here n this country. During The Iran Hostage Crisis n The 70s for instance, American blks were set free. But now due to the damage done by these blk faces n so called high places (HNIC Drone King Obama, Holder, The Terrible 2 Rices, Powell, etc.) we will probably all b lumped into the same pile as all the sociopathic whites. We will no longer b viewed sympathetically by the world community b/c of the crimes of all these blk corporate patsies.
When it comes to politics, Tom Joyner’s opinion is irrevelant. He get’s his information from CNN or MSNBC like the rest of the sheeple do.
Nothing else to be said. Mr.Joyner is full of it.
Tom Joyner is right when he says “I’m just a dj”. As much as he does for Black Colleges and its students, he is dumb as a pole when it comes to discussing anything else. How dare he attempt to let Obama off the hook with such hogwash!!!
The letters “dj” stand for DUMB JOCK!!!
WORD!
LOL good one Derrick LOL Guess who loves a joke more than me – white folks. Make them laugh, smile and be friendly and they will give you the love. GUARANTEED! LOL
lmao! I can just picture this c**t shucking ad jiving and making “dem good ol’ white folks” laugh.
You are definitely the descendant of one the slaves Harriet Tubman wrote about. lol.
You have retarded DNA. I also see that you “live, work and WORSHIP” with white folks.
“Oh mi lord, I has madde it. I is worsheeping swit lawd jeesus white them good ol’ white folks. I is veri glad!!!”.
Lmao, like I told you earlier, people like you make people of european descent look superhuman.
“Superhuman” is what you dumb dirty africans label white folks as. That is why you come to America kissing their butts on both cheeks, buying white women when you get a few dollars, and shunning black americans unless you need something.
You come here full of hate for your own black countries, with your inferiority complexes.
Sounds like you jealous because this black american woman has white friends. I smile and am friendly to everyone.
Your biggest fear is that black and white americans will mend their fences, reclaim our country from foreign invaders, and send you back to the jungle where you belong.
Politics is BS & before the Fame & Glory you get What Kwame got the GasFace! We are the only group who get this! What really hurts is when it comes from Negroes? Some of the most Uninformed Fools on the Planet! Dummies know who Snoop Dogg is but don’t know Who David Walker is? Big Dummies We can’t judge Kwame only Allah(God) and them Crackers on that Jury? Who knows I’m from Cali & We know about Walter Tucker in Compton lol Negro Grabbing crackers money before the Wood said what He wanted Him to Do lol Clean it up because they know most of us Grow up Poor so Large Sums of Money Turns most of us,with no Faith Base!
Derick like always You hit these Negroes with the Uncut like on these Ghetto Streets! O’Drama is a Trick on Negroes like Intergretion was a trick to fool Negroes after 400 years your open enemy is all of a Sudden our Friends? BS,We gave up everything & Disarmed ourselves to see one Negro play for the Dodgers lol Big Dummies! You been Had Led Asstray lol you know the rest! Chinatown is Chinatown,Koreatown is Koreatown until you come to Negroes this Area is fo Everybody & it is Who want to use our area like a t**t & Suck out the Money to Build up their Communities! To see this going on something is wrong with our people! Saviours Day 2013 the Minister spoke on how that Mentality got it’s start! Practice Group Economics or Perish because the Window is closing for us to Escape! If we get out of our own way we will be Successful
Brother Muhammad: “O’Drama is a Trick on Negroes like Intergretion was a trick to fool Negroes after 400 years your open enemy is all of a Sudden our Friends?”
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And these negroids have the nerve to talk about the street ‘ho!!!
This mulatto is pimping these negroids like SUPERFLY pimped white bytches!
Peace!
You Ask a Woman they fighting for Women’s Rights or h**o Rights or Tights lol Until you get to Negroes Civil Rights? Who in the h**l is Sibil? We Need Black Rights something Denied us on all Levels of Government,We could not get free because of the Federal Government! Stop smiling in these crackers faces,and going along to get along n****s!
Smh at this tom f*ckery! WE are held to a different standard. How they forgot that…I don’t even know. It’s ‘interesting’ that all three are young gifted black men in or near their 40′s and were quite possibly on the fast track to being presidential candidates themselves. 40 years of political GAINS destroyed!!!! Selfish, greedy b*stards. I just viewed a documentary which showed lions wiping out lion cubs to ensure that there would be no future competition. Sounds like the exact same thing here. Who’s next?! What young black buck is going let his EGO destroy a promising future?!!! The hunt is on and in full effect. Whoever is left better be towing the line, lining up his ducks, straightening up, flying right and getting that credit report in check! The goon squad is coming for you.
If Mr. Obama were corrupted surely he wouldn’t have made it as far as the White House and not taken that road TWICE. Perhaps he needs to teach these young bucks CHESS. Perhaps they need to RESPECT that.
Just because he hasn’t been caught, make that prosecuted, don’t think that Obama is clean. A great many politicians manage to avoid prosecution for their misdeeds. The Courts have already ruled that Obama deliberately and intentionally violated the constitution, but the press won’t push the issue and the Republican in the House are scared to pursue it w/o the press making the public aware of Obama’s crimes. I bet most of you have no idea about the court rulings, do you? Or his many other crimes. All you see is (as Joe Biden calls him) is a “clean negro.” Most people simply don’t want to acknowledge the horrible things he has done to this nation; just wait until Obamacare kicks in compeltely 10 months from now . . . you think it is hard to find a good job now, just you wait. And if you are self-employed, you are going to get tagged with a 2.5% tax on your total (adjusted gross) income if you don’t buy one of those incredibly expensive Obamacare policies. You might as well go ahead and bend over.
If the press hounded Obama like they did Bush, he wouldn’t have had a chance of re-election (he only got 51% of the vote as it was — if the press was on his back like they were Bush, it would have easily moved 2% of the voters to the other side, places like Florida, Ohio, Virginia would have gone to the other side, and we would have had Romney for president; not much better, I know, but at least he would have gotten people back to work with legit full-time jobs).
First of all, who is ‘James Wilkerson’ to say;
“I get tired of Blacks being always portrayed as victims” If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime”
I guess when US black men walk past a white woman on the street she doesn’t act like a victim when she pulls her handbag to the opposite side, or slows down to let US blackmen walk past her…I GUESS THATS NOT PLAYING THE VICTIM HUH JIMMY-BOY?!?
I guess when US blackmen are racially profiled by law enforcement officers and end up dead due to their racial prejudice and the court’s decision where the police officer(s) are concerned is ‘justifiable homicide’ because they ‘thought’ that WE (BLACKMAN) were carrying or concealing a weapon or exhibiting ‘threatening behaviour’ towards ‘poor defenseless officers of the law’ then…I GUESS THATS WHITE POLICEMEN NOT PLAYING THE VICTIM HUH JIMMY-BOY?!?
No one here ‘Jimmy-Boy’ is playing the “victim”, its just the way PEOPLE LIKE YOU like to attribute corruption to US so it doesn’t look so bad when people like YOU do the same thing!
In short I guess there has to be a ‘fall guy’ and generally speaking when WE err that corrupted official, unprincipled and immoral badge is aptly pinned on US by the media, AND as a result this action ultimately paves the way for gullible NEG-ROES to hammer the last nail in OUR coffin!
I’m not saying that Black elected officials should be excused when they take public money but what I AM saying is that the whole political machine should be transparent enough for ALL to see, know and understand so one doesn’t judge without facts!
Regardless of color there appears to be a ‘corruption culture’ where elected officals are concerned and this needs to be exposed because the more it stays this way then one can successfully manipulate and shape things the way they want to and keep things this way in an environment of mass ignorance.
Jimmy-Boy I’m hoping you can do something for me; see if you can gather as much information as you can regarding corrupt public officals across racial color lines then compare how many of them were convicted of their crime, and also check out and compare the ammount of media exposure and the degree of criticism levelled against them in their cases.
After that I guarantee you will see who the real “victim” is….and if you don’t well lets just say, I UNDERSTAND!!
Oh yeah, forgot the bit about..
“Now because of the crimes he’s (Kilpatrick) been found guilty of committing, he and other Black politicians are limiting the Big Chief’s choices when it comes to appointing black cabinet members.”
So the president now has to be carefull of appointing any blackmen because of three ex-Black public officals, and there would have to be further scrutiny of blackmen or women who may have desires in seeking high office???
What a load of bull-shyte!!
If thats how Pres. Obama thinks then I guess he deserves the white consertive/tea-party/Republican backlash he gets on a near daily
basis, and if Tom Joyner believes this BS then I guess this explains the reason why we have more gate-keepers than wide-awake brothers & sisters in the media!
BroD…. I always saw white crooks from Kennedy to Nixon to Bushes and their boys! !! When did crackers become clean? ! Never! ! Obama is a puppet and he is worried about image where as white presidents don’t give a Fvck! !! Maat
I am so glad we are finally realizing that some black people are paid (in some way) to protect every decision made by our black president. Keep looking at what they are doing and saying then turn the dial from them when you are convinced they are not out to help you. You may have to turn the power off.
One columnist wrote, “I’m completely disgusted with Kwame Kilpatrick. He’s a thief and a liar who betrayed the black residents of Detroit who expected so much and received so little. Kilpatrick, perhaps the most underhanded mayor in Detroit’s history, got the verdict he deserved.”
The EXACT same thing could be said about Obama — the most underhanded President in US history. And before you say, “what about Nixon,” remember that Nixon actually kept his promices, and he got us out of Vietnam.
So if w buy this argument them we can expect that no more Black people will assume positions under this administration. Tom just needs to shut the h**l up! Wasnt enough for him to divide us against Tavis?
Tom Joyner is more ignorant then I gave him credit for. White politicians go to jail all the time for the same acts (crimes) committed by Jackson and Kwame. It certainly has not prevented Obama from appointing them to vetted positions within his administration. Joyner is a stupid trick who needs to put a lid on his crazy out of the box comments. No wonder his wife divorced his old, tired trick a…s! He better start worrying about people like myself to write letters to his sponsers suggesting that he be put out to a ” uncle Tom pasture. Joyner is ignorant beyond belief…..did ya hear me ?
any person of color running for public office should understand that they will be put under the microscope.everything and anything is up for grab.do the right thing from the beginning,because you will be watched.peace.
“do the right thing from the beginning…”
Don’t think that would work where we’re concerned.
If any Black public official decided to shoot-straight throughout their tenure they will be some b*****d (s) on hand to make sure they look as crooked as the letter ‘s’.
Politics (poli-tricks) is a dirty game!!
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The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad sums up Black voters and Black Politics, In his book Fall Of America “1 The Black man of America has been privileged by the slave masters children for the last century to vote for whites for the offices to judge and rule. This freedom to vote has made the Black man in America feel very dignified and proud of himself. He goes to the polls very happy to vote for a white ruler. Today, he is gradually changing to a desire to vote for his own kind for such offices of authority. We must remember that our vote is strong and powerful only when and where the white man can use it to get in the office over his white opponent. After the election and the victory there are very few favors that come from his office to the Black voters who helped and aided him in getting in the office. Why? Because he does not owe the Black voter anything as long as he has to feed, clothe, and shelter him. The Black vote could be cast or not cast. The white citizens of the government are going to win and continue to rule anyway. There is much talk of this man and that man (who shall the vote of the people put in the White House for the next four years?) How much good have the two parties (Republican and Democrat) done for us for the last century in the way of freedom, justice, and equality? Regardless of what party wins, the die is always set against us (the Black people in America).
Excellent commentary!
REPEAT: The five weapons that DESTROY Black people
1. Bombs (weapons to destroy non-white nations)
2. Bottle (liquor)
3. Bible (false white teachings)
4. Bullets (from racist pigs, who shoot Black men)
5. Ballot (our votes mean NOTHING!)
World DOMINANCE and white supremacy will ALWAYS reign in racist amerikkka!!!
WAKE UP BLACK FOLKS!!!
Mr. Johnson, having proof is very easy to find. Do you live in a cave. Just in my state an ex governor keeping his mistress on money not used for such purposes. A bridge named after a well known family in politic, now son charged with drug problems.state to state too many . Just making a point. We see one side and some have another side you may never see. We are all only human. He will do as best he can and let’s all pray he does well.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-921922
Selected Comment:
“BS – Quit making excuses for the scumbag criminal. Kwame was a disgusting dumb criminal!” -Keith Tart Bond
-Keith Tart Bond
Indeed Kwame Kilpatrick is a scum bag.
Unfortunately, President Barack Obama, Justice Clarence Thomas, multiple members of the Congressional Black Clueless…..aka….the Congressional Black Caucus, and/or other elected black leaders or public servants are in the same league…..meaning dysfunctional, inept, sleazy, and the worse example of what it means to be an elected official or public servant.
“Excellent commentary!
REPEAT: The five weapons that DESTROY Black people
1. Bombs (weapons to destroy non-white nations)
2. Bottle (liquor)
3. Bible (false white teachings)
4. Bullets (from racist pigs, who shoot Black men)
5. Ballot (our votes mean NOTHING!)
World DOMINANCE and white supremacy will ALWAYS reign in racist amerikkka!!!
WAKE UP BLACK FOLKS!!!” – Derrick
-Derrick
It is definitely not the fault of White Supremacy or World Dominance, when individuals fail to vote intelligently, continuously praise or give tithings to sacrilegious individuals, consume or sell illicit drugs to his or her own people or abuse alcohol, promote organizations such as “Planned Parenthood”, etc., bring on his or her own demise.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-932268
The only individual or individuals who can be blamed for continuously voting into office disgraceful individuals are the actual individuals who voted for “Kwame Kilpatrick, Marion Barry, Maxine “Kerosene” Waters, Karen Bass, Mark Ridley Thomas, Herb Wesson, Bernard Parks” or make heroes of these disgraceful individuals time, and time again.
-Derrick
It is definitely not the fault of White Supremacy or World Dominance, when individuals fail to vote intelligently, continuously praise or give tithings to sacrilegious individuals, consume or sell illicit drugs to his or her own people or abuse alcohol, make it honorable to senselessly maim or kill his or her own people, promote organizations such as “Planned Parenthood”, etc., bring on his or her own demise.
http://www.klannedparenthood.com/Planned_Parenthood_Ku_Klux_Klan_KKK_Nazis/
The only individual or individuals who can be blamed, are the very black people who overwhelming (better than 90% of the black electorate vote for a Democrat even this kills his or her future posterity) and continuously voted into office disgraceful individuals such as President Barack Obama, “Kwame Kilpatrick, Marion Barry, William Jefferson, Ray Nagin, Maxine “Kerosene” Waters, Karen Bass, Mark Ridley Thomas, Herb Wesson, Bernard Parks, Merv “illegal immigrant” Dymally, Diane Watson, Yvonne “Brentwood” Burke or make heroes of these disgraceful individuals, or enable organizations such as “Planned Parenthood” to exist at his or her own expense, time, and time again.
-Derrick
It is definitely not the fault of White Supremacy or World Dominance, when individuals fail to vote intelligently, continuously praise or give tithings to sacrilegious individuals, consume or sell illicit drugs to his or her own people or abuse alcohol, make it honorable to senselessly maim or kill his or her own people, promote organizations such as “Planned Parenthood”, etc., bring on his or her own demise.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-877507
The only individual or individuals who can be blamed, are the very black people who overwhelming (better than 90% of the black electorate vote for a Democrat even this kills his or her future posterity) and continuously voted into office or refuse to make an effort to recall or impeach disgraceful individuals such as President Barack Obama, no good betraying innocent black men and women while excusing rogue police officers and unethical City Prosecutors Justice Clarence “fake Republican” Thomas, “Kwame Kilpatrick, Marion Barry, William Jefferson, Ray Nagin, Maxine “Kerosene” Waters, Karen Bass, Mark Ridley Thomas, Herb Wesson, Bernard Parks, Merv “illegal immigrant” Dymally, Diane Watson, Yvonne “Brentwood” Burke or make heroes of these disgraceful individuals, or enable organizations such as “Planned Parenthood” to exist at his or her own expense, time, and time again.
Selected Comment: “4. Bullets (from racist pigs, who shoot Black men).” -Derrick
-Derrick
…and when there are no penalties on the back end, be it rogue police officers, unethical city prosecutors, inept public servants, or the dysfunctional/treasonous nature of our own elected black leaders and black lawyers to competently serve U.S. born blacks……
……and when there are no penalties on the back end, be it rogue police officers, unethical city prosecutors, inept public servants who violate the Constitutional rights of law abiding U.S. born black men, women, and/or siblings, this activity will continue to go unchecked.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/30/nation/la-na-court-prosecutors-20110330
“Supreme Court rejects damages for innocent man who spent 14 years on death row” In a 5-4 ruling, justices overturn a jury verdict awarding $14 million to John Thompson, who had sued then-New Orleans Dist. Atty. Harry Connick Sr. because prosecutors hid a blood test that would have proved his innocence in a murder case.” By David G. Savage, Washington Bureau, March 30, 2011, Los Angeles Times.