Racist? Emory University President Applauds Decision to Make Black People Three-Fifths of a Person

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James Wagner, Emory University president, is trying to save his job because of widespread criticism of comments he mad about slavery in a university publication.

In the winter issue of Emory magazine, under a column entitled “As American as…. Compromise,” Wagner wrote, “One instance of constitutional compromise was the agreement to count three-fifths of the slave population for purposes of state representation in Congress.” The criticism was that this statement allegedly praised an agreement that counted slaves as three-fifths of a person.

He continued, “Southern delegates wanted to count the whole slave population… Northern delegates argued that slaves should not be counted at all, because they had no vote. As the price for achieving the ultimate aim of the Constitution—‘to form a more perfect union’—the two sides compromised on this immediate issue of how to count slaves in the new nation.”

He went on to say that, “both sides found a way to temper ideology and continue working toward the highest aspiration they both shared—the aspiration to form a more perfect union. They set their sights higher, not lower, in order to identify their common goal…”

The column, which was published over the weekend, sparked outrage not just from students, faculty and alumni but on social media websites.  The president of the university has been heavily criticized for not making it clear that the Three-Fifths Compromise further undermined the humanity of people of color within the United States.   Also, Wagner’s decision to use this compromise as an example of America at its best lies in contradiction to the view of some that it actually reflects America at its worst.

Wagner immediately issued an apology: “To those hurt or confused by my clumsiness and insensitivity, please forgive me.” He also stated he considered slavery “heinous, repulsive, repugnant, and inhuman. I should have stated that fact clearly in my essay.”

Ben F. Johnson III, chairman of the board of trustees, said in an interview, “He has my 100 percent, undivided support.” This appears to show that the board of trustees are standing behind its embattled president, at least for the meantime.

Several faculty staff at Emory said, however, that they were not satisfied with Wagner’s apology. “I do believe he is genuinely sorry that this happened, but I think the kind of leader we need is someone who would not have made such an egregious mistake in the first place,” said Emory Associate Professor Noelle McAfee.

This latest controversy comes in the wake of cuts to various departments and programs at the university. Though the university denies it, critics say the recent cuts unfairly target minority faculty and students.  Maybe since he is applauding the idea of black people being three-fifths of a person, he also believes they deserve only three-fifths of a budget.

118 Responses to Racist? Emory University President Applauds Decision to Make Black People Three-Fifths of a Person

  1. A perfect example of institutional racism. The issue is not whether or not the president is a racist, it is that he did not even consider race at all when, offering slavery as a point in an academic argument. The fact that Emory’s BOT defend this “president” further illustrates the entrenched institutional racism at this university: He needs to go and the BOT needs to be reviewed.

    • I’m glad these yankees are treating you negroids like this! Y’all negroids think these negroids are not racist, but EVERYDAY, they show y’all, they don’t give a da.mn about you negroids.

      What the fvck is a cracker being president of a so-called Black college/university, anyway? I told y’all 6 months ago that these universities/colleges were sponsored and controlled by racist crackers, such as this devil, who is the president of Emory.
      Now, the Truth has come to the surface.

      All I try to do is bring Truth to this site, but you negroids listen to these crackers, who claim they are Black, and you fall for their bullshyt.

      Do you negroids here andn see the old slogan: SUPPORT THE UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUND? HE.LL NAW, because these so-called Black colleges and universities are controlled by crackers!!! These cracker students are taking over these HBCU’s, and they will outnumber you negroids within 5 years, while you negroids sit back, and let these serpents run over y’all.

      I ain’t never seen nothing, like this in all my life!!! You think O’Drama has your back, but all he is doing is STABBING YOU IN THE BACK. This mulatto is CONTROLLED, and he don’t give a husky fvck about you brainwashed negroids.

      He hired all crackers, but you xtian negroids and bootlicking negroids are being ‘hung’ everyday by this fake azz mulatto.

      I DON’T GIVE A FVCK WHAT YOU NEW AGE SLAVES THINK ABOUT ME, I KNOW THE REAL DEAL.

      Y’all negroids are still ‘blind’ and can’t SEE the Truth when it’s right under your godda.mn noses!!!

      KEEP KISSING THESE cracker’s AZZES WITH SHYT IN IT!!! I’m sitting back laughing at you chickenp-hearted negroids because the Truth is rising to the top of what I say about these demonic devils, and y’all too godda.mn scared to admit it!!!

      FVCK Y’ALL PITIFUL NIQ.QAS!!!

    • The only thing that he did wrong was to apologize for simply STATING THE FACTS OF HISTORY, THAT TOOK PLACE AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY, and fool negroes too dumb to understand that he simply reported historical facts, were taken seriously when their pathetic brains couldn’t handle the true facts!!!!

      Today’s white man needs to stop apologizing for something they didn’t do, for believing that negroes who have no intelligence should be taken seriously just because they have the BIGGEST MOUTH and the littles reasoning ability, like Derrick.

      The white man needs to stop apologizing for what their ancestors did, and just make sure they’re not making the same mistakes. No one else is apologizing for what their ancestors did.

      WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, IT IS assumed that all people have an equal ability to select a candidate and it is WRONG to do that! It would have been even more WRONG to allow former slaves, handicapped mentally and physically by severe abuse at the hands of their masters, to be given a 1 man/1 vote.

      EVERY SLAVE WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THE BLACK CANDIDATE EVEN IF HE WERE SATAN HIMSELF JUST TO GET BACK AT THE MASTER, LEADING TO THE DETRIMENT OF ALL, JUST LIKE THEY DID IN THE LAST 2 ELECTIONS EVENTHOUGH NEGROES TODAY ARE SUPPOSEDLY MORE EDUCATED/INTELLIGENT THAN SLAVES WHO COULDNT EVEN READ!! LOL LOL LMAO

      Maybe instead of 3/5th vote for blacks, these last 2 elections might have proved we only deserve 1/5th voting power.

      • “Today’s white man needs to stop apologizing for something they didn’t do, for believing that negroes who have no intelligence should be taken seriously just because they have the BIGGEST MOUTH and the littles reasoning ability, like Derrick.”
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

        “…and the littles reasoning ability…”

        From your ignorant and stupid comment it appears to me that you have NO REASONING ability, nor writing ability. You cracker hillbillies are so dumb to even think you are intelligent! Re-read that dumb sentence, then go look in the mirror, and see what looks back at you, which will be the LITTLE IGNORANT ONE!

        LITTLE tu.rds like you don’t faze me because I KNOW, that you caucasoids are very illiterate when it comes to having COMMON SENSE. What you have been TRAINED in your schools of LOWER LEARNING is nothing, but falsehood. Afrikans invented writing when they were professors and teachers at the FIRST UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD, WHICH WAS LOCATED IN KEMET…The University of Timbuktu.

        This college of HIGHER LEARNING was were the romans and greeks went to learn KNOWLEDGE and WISDOM. This college was over a mile in length!!! After the Kemetians introduced them to KNOWLEDGE and WISDOM, they claimed to be the so-called ‘founding fathers’.

        The Mighty Afrikans gave us the Alphabet, a stylization of Kemet’s hieroglyphics. Afrikans gave us the Arts & Science of Medicine, and Herbs. They also smoked calamus, another name for cannabis! (calamus is in the bible). The Calendar, Star Science aka Astrology and Astronomy was introduced by Afrikans.

        Afrikan women introduced the calendar and were Star Gazers, who studied the Stars and planets at the top of the Pyramids where observatory decks were built! These decks have been cemented in by the pale egyptians!! The greeks and romans stole the calendar, astrology, and astronomy from the Afrikans, and renamed the calendar to the Gregarian (greek) calendar.

        Afrikans also invented Paper and Fabrics, and the WORLD IS RAN BY AFRIKAN INVENTIONS!!! Paper was called papyrus, by the Ancient Kemetians, and Afrikans used it to make boats, ropes, and houses!!! It is over 5,000 years old.

        There are no such creatures as ‘white’ people; you animals are pale albinoids or caucasoids, who came from the Black God and Black Godwoman in Akebu-lan (Afrika). Afrikans birthed two albinos, who later fled to Kemet, but were kicked out of Kemet, and that’s when they ran to Eu(rope)!!!

        Two albinoids produced the caucasoid race, and this is where blond hair, blue eyes and pale skin came into existance. Pale skin and blue eyes are signs of a genetic defect. Blond hair and pale skin represented DEATH! In Amsterdam, they use to put blond headed people in caves because it meant IN.CEST!!!

        As, I have mentioned earlier on other blogs the FIRST Eu(ropeans) were BLACK…they were Grimaldi people from Afrika.

        HERE’S THE PROOF:

        The FIRST people of Europe were prehistoric Africans. They lived mostly in the southern parts of Europe, and created many paintings and cave art throughout the region.

        Pretentious scholars struggling with their self-inflicted racist diseases attach ill-fitting names to the first peoples of Europe. They call them funny names like Neanderthals, Paleolithic men, Mesolithic or Neolithic, Cro-Magnons, Grimaldi, Aurignicians, in a desperate bid to hide the cultural and historical identity of those people.

        It is generally conceded by those scholars however, that the African people were the bearers of the first substantive elements of culture into the European continent.

        Many thousands of years before the rise of the current pale tribes of Europe, an Afrocoid people known as the Grimaldi people, established the Aurignacian cultures. These people were anatomically modern human beings of the West African typology. They brought the first indications of cultural thoughts and rites into Europe.

        The Grimaldi were Black Africans with very little body hair, black and smooth skin; they had the facial features typical of West African forest dwellers. They had kinky hair too. They arrived in Europe 40,000 to 50,000 years ago.

        Actually, Caucasians as a race did not appear in Europe until about twenty to thirty thousand years after the arrival of the first Africans who by this very fact are the aboriginals of Europe.

        SOURCE

        [Black Like The Ancient Europeans: The Black (First) Europeans] – Rasta Livewire

        You cauk-asians (cauc-asians/cacausoids) are johnny-come-lately nomads, who NEVER were indigenous to ANY land! EVERTHANG you chalk-asians have, you stole it from Afrikan people just like you are doing today!

        Kemetians (Egyptians)and Muurs enslaved you people, and y’all were the VERY FIRST SLAVES ON THE PLANET, who were enslaved by Black Afrikans for 1400 years!!!

        You people were s.exing dogs in the caves of the caucasus mountains, and this is how be.ast.iality came about!!! Therefore, the REAL 3/5TH ANIMALS on this planet were YOU caucasoids!!! This is why you people are so hairy, and at one time in OURstory, you even had tails!!!

        You will NEVER degrade me with your ignorance and stupidity!!!

        THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND WISEST MAN THAT EVER LIVED WAS A BLACK MAN BY THE NAME OF AUTAR, WHO WAS BORN IN AFRIKA!!!

        ON ALL CONTINENTS, CIVILIZATION BEGAN WITH BLACK AFRIKAN PEOPLE!

        KEEP LISTENING TO THIS “BIG MOUTH” BLACK MAN, AND LEARN SOMETHING!!!

        THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER BLACK OURstory MOMENT!!!

      • Hello, Republican slave, a.k.e. Faye..

    • John: The 3/5ths compromise was intended to reduce the power of the slave south, with an intent of ending it after 2 generations.
      John: But when the cotton mill was invented, slaves became more productive and more valueable, and the south opposed attempts to end it as was originally envisioned. Hence, the civil war
      Brenda: wow so it was too negroes ADVANTAGE to be 3/5th???
      John: Believe it or not, exactly. Yes.
      Brenda: you KNOW i know you wouldnt lie to me. that’s why i want to go on that history trip with you.
      John: The South wanted slaves to be given a full vote – because those votes could be controlled by the slave masters.
      Brenda: so even in slavery they voted?
      John: and the south was rather hypocritical … on one hand saying slaves were men and deserved a full vote, and on the other hand saying they were property so they had no rights.
      John: Yes, in slavery, they were given the 3/5ths of a vote. After slavery ended, they were given a full vote … because they were no longer slaves.
      Brenda: WOW! what ended voting? jim crow?
      John: ended voting? They had the legal right to vote, but in the south they put up barriers to allowing them to vote – such as a poll tax that blacks could not afford to pay.
      John: until the supreme court finally ruled such practices as a poll tax unconstitutional
      John: yes, the jim crow laws were designed to keep the black man ‘in his place’ … including things like poll taxes and other such obsticles to allowing them to vote.
      Brenda: ok, that is why my grandmother was scared to go vote. just intimidated them.
      John: exactly
      Brenda: i am so blessed to have you in my life
      John: but the important point is … that 3/5ths thing was actually to the slave’s advantage, although on the surface that seems counter-intuative. It was designed to prevent slave MASTERS from having too much power.
      John: back then, voting was not always done in a private booth or by secret ballot. It would be easy to find out how people voted.

  2. Good grief, he was talking about the attitudes of the time. We had to start somewhere with fixing the whole premise that Black people did not constitute an animal at all. He brought to light that WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE!! I think folks are just LOOKING for a reason to be offended. Yes, he should have carried his comments further, but you’re missing the whole point of his speech. Slavery was a HUGE division in this country, yet we found a way to fix it, and we had to start somewhere. It’s a shame that everything isn’t perfect for everybody. We’re all still human, you are all still human. Stop being so freaking hypersensitive and look for the good in things.

    • If his point was that ‘We had to start somewhere’ and he wanted to emphasize that part of it? then thats what he should of have stated…

      I dont think people are hypersensitive.. I think they know a rat when they smell one.

      We been watching the same c**p play out for years… Over and over again. We know a rat when we see one.

      Nobody is obligated to pat this fool on the back (he is a president of a university? what a sad joke that is) because he cant articulate himself properly.

      get your message straight, or get it rebuked..

    • Kerri!

      I have no idea who you are or what your nationality is.
      It appears that you are on the wrong side on the behalf of what this racist idiot had spoken. If you don’t know anything about Black History, I would advise that you get yourself involved in reading deep. You just don’t know how this type speech of action feels after
      nearly 4 hundred years of white oppression and brutality. Please read more in the future.

    • Kerri,
      Could this be the attitude of this time because his statement was flawed? As a Christian, a mother, and retired veteran, I am outraged! Focus on Truth and know 3/5 premise was not a good will!!!
      The problem of Slavery lie with those oppressed individuals who were the victims: Enslaved, Abuse mentally/physically and made to give free labor to build this country without any profit. A fact: When you select to put yourself in the shoes of the victim, chances are you will more accurately speak to the situation. First of all, the greatest evil for the South was the enslavement of a race of people based on a created lie that these people were not fully human due to their skin color. What makes this even worst these diabolical Southern politicians designed an idea to claim their slaves as 3/5 of a person for political gain when it came to VOTING as a country. This allow more southerners to win the office of President and for them to pass any bill they collaborated to pass. It had nothing to do with their good will to work on resolving an end to Slavery, it was straight up another malicious means to manipulate a race of people. This generation must be better than those who came before us and let’s put an end to any deceit. The President of Emory should not be excused from making such a horrible statement. This is a call as to why we need African American studies taught in all universities and high schools in the United States of America. Keep in mind, I do believe God’s words “You reap what you Sow.” Let’s sow some truth to those who have given their all to build a country that many enjoy the fruits of!!!

    • @ Kerri you said Slavery was a hugh division in this country, yet we found a way to fix it. WHO is we? and fix what? slavery is still around open your eyes. maybe not in your neighborhood but it is still here sorry to bust your bubble.

    • GO TO REHAB.

  3. And I am sure the powers that be (Watkins, West etc.) will ignore this disrespect. This man is sick and he should be fired.

  4. I agree Elizabeth. We do not need these comments for Our children to hear,they have to learn about these dumb people from the past. To still encounter this dumbness in the 21st century must be Stopped Now!

  5. Raven so I guess you agree that you are three-fifths of a person. If you agree then you forgive the mistake and yes people do make mistakes but this was not a mistake.

  6. Retype since I can’t edit. I meant to say that “We had to start somewhere with fixing the whole premise that Black people did not constitute a human at all.” Sorry, not enough coffee this morning.

    • Kerri!

      Could you please tell me what are you talking about. Your comment does not make any sense at all. These evil monsters classified a human race as BEAST of the Field, the so claimed Forefathers. Therefore it was fine for them to promulgate slavery or justify it. The Brainwashing that they put into our ancestors heads generations ago,some Blacks still act like slaves because they really do not know who they truly are.

  7. Kerri, you make sense. Too many people on this blankety blank site are just looking for an excuse to be offended. These are probably the same people with their hands out for reparations.

  8. I am American African and Native American while living in Atlanta 2000s my family of nursing filling with protest psychosis from the 60s and Munchansen. Wrongful hospitalized me over 40 something times, cause me to lose the best job I ever had as a certificated teachers assistant. On of the times I was in the hospital I called President Wagner Office at Emory he hadn’t been in town to long. An it was after hours and he said he answered the telephone be he thought it was some one needing help and listen to my story. Then suggested that this family of nurses needed help which was so true. The nursing in my family were suffering from the side effects of the 5os and 60s era. Dr. Wagner appointed a nurse well known in interracial communication to help me. Dr. Hamilton Holmes assisted my family in these hospitalizations by locking up my medical records until he died. I grew-up afraid of the sounds in voice of MLK. My family miss diagnosis me as having a bi-polar disorder. When I was really suffering from the side-affect of a atelectasis intracranial hemorrhage. Which happened in the womb an being the next fetus conceive. I pick up the side affect of this fetus in the womb from the cells of my mother. I have suffered greatly from this beyond description and President Wagner did listen. Where others were thinking I was blashing the memory MLK. For just in case purpose I can be reach at 615-320-5854 Taylor. I had to pay for hospital insurance I never needed and had to pay dentist insurance money to collection agencies to keep from going to jail. Financially I still have not recovered from these loss.

  9. Keri, why don’t you KERI your AZZ some where to a place where people will buy your STINK./ There is no way in he!! you are going to make anyway see good in this man’s comments. He stated that this show’s America at it’s best. How the he!! is stating that HUMAN BEINGS are not counted as 100% human beings America showing it’s best. Instead of you talking about people need to stop looking for something to be offended by, you need to stop trying to make people ignore blatant disrespect. If you are not a black person, nothing you say on this issue is relevant, because you would not understand it, no matter how much you THINK you would. And if you are Black, then you just showed your brainwashed syndrome. Some black people can be even worse than white racists when it comes to racial issues.

  10. This issue from the president of Emory University; James Wagner was not an error. That was meant to be said to his audience and they all applauded. So what that be meaning? If you would truly look into the Constitution; Article I, Section I, Clause 3. You will still find that portion whereas we Blacks were considered THREE FIFTHS of a person instead of a complete human being. This was drafted by the so-called fore-fathers. With so much protest many decades ago, they somewhat called themselves making it obsolete since slavery was abolished. The entire bracketed portion of this clause was changed or may have been changed by Section 2 of the 14th Amendment. Base upon the White Mainstream still believe that some Black folk can’t read. Yhis is one reason why they go out speak these hellified issues, particularly a White audience. This may be something new to some Black folk, not to me. Over a hundred and sixty years ago, it was unlawful for a Black slave to read. As it was once once said;”teaching a Black person how to read, he would become dangerous.”
    I’m dangerous because I read.

  11. If I were a member of the Board at Emory University, I would question his judgement. I don’t think I would want one with such poor judgement as my University’s president.

  12. HEY RAVEN WAKE UP…STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THESE PEOPLE ….DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS MAN HAS DISENFRANCHISED…THIS IS INHERENT OF HIM..
    JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE BLACK STUDENTS AND FACULTY AT THIS UNIVERSITY UNDER THE TUTOLEDGE OF THIS “NO MORE SHEETS” MAN!!!
    THESE PEOPLE DO IT SO MUCH UNTIL THEY BECOME SO COMFORTABLE…THEY FORGET AND THAT’S WHEN IT COMES OUT PUBLICLY…WAKE UP…A NEW DAWN IS COMING…BLACK PEOPLE ARE GETTING TIRED…I HAVE NO TOLERANCE AT ALL..

  13. I can’t believe black ppl make excused for this type of fuckery

  14. Is anyone surprised? I’m not! ! Matter of fact I want to know how folks feel so we can put them on the list! ! Quit all the faking and hiding! ! We black folks need to quit being nice to those who are not nice. An I for an eye, tooth for a tooth. When u hit the bully back, he quits bullying! ! Fvck em and feed all those pale azzez gravy train! ! They are truly less than one fifths of a human…Maat

  15. This is interesting in that it leaves too much to chance. If Emory University required ALL students, staff and faculty to study the Southern Manifesto as a requirement for involvement with the institution I would think that they would understand the implications of his statement.

    What I would offer anyone is that if Dr. Wagoner had not been queried relative to his global views when he was interviewed someone might have discovered how he saw America and its flawed journey. Those who speak of the Greatest Generation never capture the essence of the 3/5 notion as a harm to those so characterized. This leads to red-lining and restrictive covenants and barriers for inclusion in trade unions. What I am suggesting is that the mentality become a cultural state of mind that impact their whole being.

    Given the significance of the 3/5 clause one might think that a question about it would be one of the necessary questions asked a candidate just as a matter of course, much in the same way that gender equity would be on top of the list.

  16. For every one of him, there are a thousand more. They are amongst people we interact with everyday. Personal, professional, young, old, men and women; friends and foes. He just represents the “known” devil. And my momma always said a “known” devil is better than an “unknown” devil anyday. I dare say: racism, is as it was in the days of old aided in part by many from the oppressed people. Therefore, we can have an impact on our own freedom from the ugly monster of racism. But, Harriet Tubman famous quote: “I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves” still holds true today. We just need to substitute the word slave with “oppressed” and “racism”. IJS

  17. I still stand on these words “Whatever is in you it will come out sober or drunk” You only can suppress hatred, dislike and anger for a small period of time.

  18. Thomas D. Broadwater, Sr.

    Alfred Bloomerosen, has written a book, “SLAVE NATION” which points out how this country was founded, for the sole reason, to protect SLAVERY. I would invite everyone who feel the need to understand where African Americans are, after thirteen (13) generations or one hundred fifty(150) years since our so-called EMACIPATION. We all need to understand that nothing worth-while will come to us as a people until we get serious about the education of our children, when they are under four (4)years old.

    tom

  19. Provided that this is actually history and did happen, I contend don’t shoot the messenger for saying what happened. Furthermore his subject was Compromise. The compromise of 2 opposing leadership group in Congress who held strong beliefs as crazy as they were; just like now. This isn’t a celebration, just a fact and point of reference. He may want to use another due to sensitivity. And as Dr. Boyce Watkins say often, get off the plantation. An HBCU would love to have their talent and love of research. Or better than that, start your own university. Opps, that might be a problem for those whose value derive from their association with those they believe can add value, while they’re often DE-VALUING the person trying to assimilate through association …crazy!

    Read the column for yourself: http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_MAGAZINE/issues/2013/winter/register/president.html

    I believe if we love our history and all of its’ ugliness, it would compel us to be about improving our community, being more gracious to fellow black people (knowing that we were once consider non-human without a soul – property) and standing up for inequalities whenever you have opportunity.

    • “Provided that this is actually history and did happen”

      ????????????????????????????????????????

      Read your constitution idiot.

  20. This man is an idiot. This is what you expect from someone who has been placed in a leadership position by puppeteers. He’s desire to downplay the humanity of black people, comes from his own feelings of worthlessness.

  21. Four years ago, while attending the 2009 society advancement of American philosophy, i listened to a paper on immigration by a professor from Findland. He ended his paper with a comment on how much America was indebted to Europe because of the European culture. He then mentioned life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I stated that he paper was good, but he “left out the most important mathematic equation of his construct”. He squinched up his face and asked “what equation?” I answered “three fifths of a man”. He threw his hands in the air like i had pulled a gun and said “sir, you’re right; i can’t even make a statement, i have no answer.”. A femal professor also in attendence then yelled out “and three fifths of s woman until you allowed us to vote. The presentor then put his head on the table and spread his arms out like a shot bird. A HABIT IS LIKE A REPUTATION, EASY TO ACQUIRE AND HARD TO GET RID OF.

  22. So do Republicans in Congress still believe Blacks and racial minorities deserve continue be slaves. And you want republicans to change by 2016? It won’t happen.

    • @Pastori Balele. Most people are unable to see reality for what it really is. Part of the problem with human perception of reality is that early on their minds were affected or infected by religious “God” beliefs. These superstitious, fantastical, whimsy, and highly fictitious belief systems humans are inundated with has literally blocked an important ‘reasoning’ section of their brains!
      We are all suffering at the mercy of very insane so-called leaders who take their orders from ever more wealthy-powerful insane ‘would-be-kings’ who have learned that it is better to rule their kingdoms from the shadows! We prove ourselves insane to consider electing ‘rich’ insane men and women to lord over us, and we are more insane to believe that those who show their faces actually have the power to manipulate the important issues of our lives, and our world!

      If everyone could shed the cloak of religious ‘God’ beliefs, which appear engrained into their psyche, they might see a ‘constant pattern’ here! They might realize that certain people of the world,(blacks)etc., are targeted for extinction, and that no matter who is used as ‘surrogates’ for those hidden sociopathic powermongers, we humans are growing more violent and insane and that no one we are driven to believe we ‘vote’ for or elect is powerful enough, or even caring enough, to change for the better, our fate, or the fate of the ‘people of color’ of the world! Again we are all quite insane and most of us contribute knowingly and ignorantly to our own demise! People of color are the first to go. After all is said and done, many of those who consider themselves “whites” will also suffer, because again, those in power are completely mad sociopaths!

  23. Delwyn X. Campbell

    Well, the choices at the time were a) slaves count as 0 population, which can be interpreted as either “they don’t vote,” or “they aren’t humans;” b)slaves count as full members of population, even though they are treated as property and are not allowed to vote. No one was talking about z) free the slaves, and treat them as human beings who are entitled, at the least, to be paid for their labor, or, to be truly just, to be returned to their place of origin.
    The university president was only trying to discuss the issue of how compromise can help Congress move forward on an important issue. In fact, few people out of the entire U.S. population have read this passage, and the few that have are probably the only ones who give much thought to the passage or what it might mean. This sounds like a tempest in a teapot, simply because there is no way to determine what impact his thoughts on this topic have had on his work as university president. None of us here are mind readers, thus we are all talking because we have a mouth, not because we have any actual insight to this guy. I’m moving on to something of more importance, like cleaning my house.

  24. It should be clear to all who garner some semblance of intellegence, that college education does not releave the level of insanity which is part of the DNA of every living human being! Many of the educated people who’s ancestors stole this country from the indigenous people and then betrayed their own country (UK), to steal it from them, are just as insane as those they sprang from. The madness that we African Americans “blacks” have dealt with all of these centuries is a direct result of the endemic overall lunacy of our “white” brothers, educated or not! We should not be so self-righteous as to focus on their faults because we are also just as insane, educated or not! We will continue to suffer as a people specifically because those who hold the power and wealth, and an insane agenda to accumulate more, believe it is better to “keep us in our place”! And we have a number of our own who are so insane as to help them acheive all of thier goals!
    Intellect nor education trumps lunacy!

    It may not have occurred to you but no matter who holds “leadership” positions, or who is replaced, or how deeply we are assimilated and accepted into a ‘white dominant society’, we will remain insane human beings and therefore we will always murder, steal, plunder, rape, and pillage from each other as we continue to detroy everything including the world we live in! Monkeys and other animals aren’t nearly as insane as we are!

  25. I guess I’m trying to figure out if anyone is grasping is point, he selected a poor example of compromise. Let’s be honest here, most people don’t even understand the context in which this came to be, explaining that it was a form of compromise and remembering the REALITY of life and American Culture at this juncture in history doesn’t necessarily reflect that this man is racist. Each and ever post that has been posted lacks objectivity and is laced with personalize emotion. Nothing get’s done and no common understand is ever met when this is the default reaction. That man didn’t make that law, he merely used it, again a poor choice, as an example of compromise in the face of a seemingly insurmountable obstacle. The bigger issue is the this wasn’t amended at a later date. What immediately came to mind for me is the current political climate in America, a climate where no one is willing to compromise, no one is willing to sacrifice their view or position and in return MANY THINGS DON’T GET DONE. In 2013 white supremacy isn’t the greatest threat to Black America, but victim mentality is a rather comfortable worn in familiar position to occupy.

  26. I believe it or not do understand what he was trying to say…my belief is he was describing the feeling of that period (it was 3/5ths or nothing at all), he put himself in that period. It was not his intention to have folks going away believing he supported slavery or the 3/5ths law. I do agree with him on his hindsight of the clumsiness in the way he presented his commentary. Hopefully lesson learned.

  27. Everybody that post a comment about this article.Should go back & read
    an internalize all that he said is truth.We all are only talking & have
    not tried to find or create a solution.Which is build a black nation like
    Marcus Garvey did.You see what the president said when he meet w/ the C.B.C. I am not the president of black america. I am president of the
    United States of America.I know “I am a Black Man born in america”.
    May GOD Bless You All !

  28. Sorry I left out the young man’s name who spoke the truth Derrick. God
    Bless you son for knowing & speaking truth.
    Love Ya !

  29. RACISM, A MISINTERPRETED WORD…

    IT WOULD MATTER NOT WHAT THEY THINK OR FEEL ABOUT US IF WE HAD A STRONG SENSE OF SELF AS A GROUP PEOPLE, BUT SINCE WE ACT AS THOUGH WE ARE DEPENDENT ON WHITE SOCIETY’S BENEVOLENCE, UNFORTUNATELY IT STILL DOES.

    RACISM IS A COMPETITIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GROUPS OF PEOPLE, THAT ARE COMPETING FOR THE WEALTH AND RESOURCES OF PLANET EARTH, WHICH TRANSLATES INTO POWER. IN ESSENCE RACISM IMPLIES POWER. SO IN ORDER TO PRACTICE REAL RACISM ONE MUST HAVE POWER.

    RACISM IS A TEAM SPORT, A GROUP UNDERTAKING. RACISM COULD NOT EXIST IF IT WASN’T PARTICIPATED BY A GROUP.

    THE WORD/CONCEPT OF RACISM DIDN’T EVEN EXIST UNTIL THE 1400′S EUROPE.
    THERE OF COURSE EXISTED VARIOUS FORMS OF DISPARITY OF TREATMENT THROUGHOUT THE PLANET BEFORE THE 1400′S, I.E., INDENTURED SERVITUDE, DISCRIMINATION, NEPOTISM, RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION, PRISONER OF WAR, ETC.

    IN 1442, MAGELLAN ALONG WITH HENRY THE NAVIGATOR AND OTHERS SAILED FROM EUROPE TO THE COAST OF AFRICA, PICKED UP 16 OR SO AFRICANS AND SAILED BACK TO EUROPE AND GAVE THE 16 AFRICANS TO POPE INNOCENT AS GIFTS AND THEY WORKED FOR FREE FROM 1442 TO 1488 AROUND THE VATICAN.

    THIS BECAME A PROFITABLE AND PRODUCTIVE VENTURE FOR THE VATICAN, AND OTHERS DECIDED THEY TOO WANTED TO BENEFIT FROM FREE LABOR. SO POPE INNOCENT VIII GAVE A PUBLIC EDICT THAT IT WAS OK TO OBTAIN AFRICANS FOR PRIVATE USE FOR FREE LABOR. AND ONCE THAT BECAME ACCEPTABLE, IT BEGAN THE EUROPEAN RUSH ON AFRICA TO OBTAIN BLACKS FOR FREE LABOR. THE EUROPEAN SLAVE TRADERS STARTED PICKING AFRICANS UP FROM AFRICA FOR APPROX. $25 A PIECE AND SOLD THEM TO THE SETTLERS IN THE AMERICAS FOR $400 A PIECE, 1500% RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.

    IN 1495, AFTER COLUMBUS ALLEGEDLY DISCOVERED AMERICA. IT BEGAN THE EUROPEAN RACE TO COLONIZE AND ESTABLISH THE AMERICAS FOR PROFIT BY VARIOUS EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. TO DISCOVER AND EXTRACT AS MANY RESOURCES (PRECIOUS METALS, GEMS, CASH CROPS) AS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS PART OF THE WORLD WAS UNKNOWN TO EUROPE. IT HELD VAST UNKNOWN POTENTIAL FOR COMPETING EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.

    NOW PRIOR TO THE AMERICAS DISCOVERY, EUROPE WAS EXPERIENCING WHAT THEY CALLED THE “DARK AGES”, AND SURMISED THAT THE NEWLY DISCOVERED AMERICAS COULD FUEL THEIR REVITALIZATION AND BRING THEM OUT OF THEIR DISEASE, CRIME RIDDEN AND ECONOMICALLY IMPOVERISHED CULTURE.

    WHITE ARABS (ORIGINAL ARABS WERE AND ARE BLACK) WERE THE FIRST TO START ENSLAVING BLACKS IN 765 A.D. THE PORTUGUESE WERE THE SECOND, HISPANICS WERE THE THIRD, THEN THE GERMANS, THEN THE DANES, THEN THE FRENCH, THEN THE ENGLISH, THEN THE NORWEGIANS AND EVEN SOME OF THE INDIANS. MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE.

    THE MAIN JUSTIFICATION FOR SLAVERY WAS FOR ECONOMIC REASONS, ALL THE WAY FROM THE 1500′S TO THE 1700′S.

    Europeans already had a history of viewing non-European people as different and inferior, even questioning their humanity. The institution of slavery for African captives was established in the Caribbean, and Spain purchased African bond laborers to work alongside or replace the Indians they enslaved in South and Central America with conquest. The slave trade was an increasingly lucrative business for European nations during the seventeenth century and became a booming business for England in the eighteenth.

    European culture produced people who needed an “Other”, a class of people who were deemed inferior and incorporated qualities rejected or even demonized by European culture. So Europeans would be predisposed to the development and acceptance of a system of white racial privilege anywhere in the world.

    In fact, the system was so well digested into European culture that by the time of the U.S. Constitution was produced, most of those engaged in drafting and enacting it saw no internal conflict in adapting a document based on liberty, equality, and the rights of men that excluded African American lifetime bond laborers from those inalienable rights. Liberty was, within whiteness, reserved for white people.

    IN THE 1700′S WHEN AMERICA’S EVANGELICAL MOVEMENT SWEPT THROUGH THIS COUNTRY, THEY SWITCHED THE REASON FOR ENSLAVING BLACK FOLK AND MADE IT A RELIGIOUS ISSUE. WHY WAS THIS SO IMPORTANT… BECAUSE WHEN ENGLAND BECAME THE DOMINANT ECONOMIC POWER LARGELY DUE TO THE SLAVE TRADE, AND WAS THE LEADER IN TRADING SLAVES, KING JAMES AT THAT TIME RE-WROTE THE BIBLE TO JUSTIFY AND CONDONE SLAVERY. AND ALL SLAVE HOLDING STATES WERE THEN MANDATED TO USE THE BIBLICAL SCRIPTURES TO JUSTIFY SLAVERY.
    THIS BECAME THE STATUS QUO, AND SLAVERY STAYED A RELIGIOUS ISSUE UP UNTIL AROUND 1859.

    BY 1860 WHITE SOCIETY HAD SUCCESSFULLY REDISTRIBUTED 97% TO 98% OF THE WEALTH AND POWER INTO THE DOMINANT WHITE SOCIETIES HANDS, ESSENTIALLY WINNING THE “RACE’. AND BY 1860 WHITES STARTING USING PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL PAPERS SUCH AS DARWIN’S “SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST” AKA DARWINISM, ALONG WITH OTHER PSEUDO SCIENTISTS WRITINGS IN PLACE OF THE WELL ESTABLISHED RELIGIOUS REASONS. SO IT SWITCHED FROM BEING A RELIGIOUS ISSUE TO BECOME A BIOLOGICAL ISSUE, AS TO WHY WHITES WERE SUPERIOR.

    AND THIS BECAME THE NEW INTELLECTUAL REASONING WHY BLACKS WHERE VIEWED AS LESS THAN WHITES. AND SINCE WHITES SEEMINGLY SAT AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN AND BLACKS SEEMINGLY AT THE BOTTOM, DARWINISM MADE PERFECT SENSE TO THE PSEUDO WHITE INTELLECTUAL, AS TO WHY WHITES SAT AT THE TOP OF THE ECONOMIC LADDER.

    AND WHEN IT BECAME A BIOLOGICAL ISSUE, GOVERNMENTS STARTED MANDATING THAT A PERSONS RACE BE PLACED ON ALL IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS, WHETHER IT BE STATE ISSUED I.D. OR A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

    BY 1880, THE RACE WAS OVER AND WHITE SOCIETY LOOKED AROUND AND REALIZED THEY OWNED 95% OF ALL WEALTH AND ALSO NOTICED THAT THE BLACKS WERE ON THE BOTTOM. WHITE SOCIETY THEN CHANGED RACE INTO RACISM BY REPLACING THE LETTER E WITH THE SUFFIX ISM. WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS; KEEP THE PREVAILING CONDITIONS, LET NOTHING CHANGE. SO TO SUMMARIZE, THEIR WAS A RACE, WHICH WAS WON BY WHITE SOCIETY, IT THEN CONCLUDED, AND MECHANISMS WERE THEN ESTABLISHED TO ENSURE ITS CONTINUITY.

    SO TO INSURE WHITES WOULD REMAIN IN POWER, THEY KEY WORD SWITCHED FROM RACE TO RACISM. REMEMBER, RACISM IS A COMPETITIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GROUPS OF PEOPLE, THAT ARE COMPETING FOR THE WEALTH, RESOURCES AND POWER ON THE PLANET EARTH.

    RACISM HAS BEEN TAUGHT TO MOST OF US AS, NOT LIKING OR GETTING ALONG WITH SOMEONE BASED ON PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OR IDEAS ABOUT A GROUP OF PEOPLE. THAT IS NOT RACISM, IT MAY BE PREJUDICED, BIGOTRY, BIASED, OR DISCRIMINATION BUT IT IS NOT RACISM. ESSENTIALLY RACISM IS THE CONTROL AND OWNERSHIP OF MOST EVERYTHING.

    ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A PRECONCEIVED IDEA ABOUT SOMETHING OR HAS A PREFERENCE, THAT IS NATURAL. CASE IN POINT… SOME PEOPLES FAVORITE FOOD MAY BE CHINESE FOOD, SO THEY ARE BIASED TOWARD CHINESE FOOD, AND THEY MAY HAVE A PREFERENCE ON WHO MAKES THERE FOOD FOR THEM OR WHOM THEY PURCHASE IT FROM. SO THEY ARE DISCRIMINATING ABOUT WHO AND WHERE THEY EAT AT OR FROM.
    AND THIS IS WHY THE ARGUMENT GAYS TRY TO MAKE WHEN THEY COMPARE THEIR PLIGHT TO BLACK PEOPLES IS TOTAL NON-SENSE.

    SO THE MISUSED WORD RACISM IS A DISTRACTIONS, USED TO CONFUSE AND KEEP US FROM EFFECTIVELY DEALING WITH THE PROBLEM OF RACISM, PRACTICED WORLD WIDE BY WHITES. THE ONLY WAY TO ERADICATE THE PRACTICE OF RACISM IS TO REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH AND RESOURCES BACK INTO THE HANDS OF BLACKS AND OTHER NON WHITES. AND THE ONLY WAY FOR BLACKS IN AMERICA IN PARTICULAR TO DO THAT IS TO PRACTICES GROUP ECONOMICS.

    EVERYBODY ON EARTH PRACTICES GROUP ECONOMICS EXCEPT BLACK PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY BLACK AMERICANS. THEIR IS NO UNITY AMONG BLACKS WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMICS, AMONGST OTHER THINGS. MAIN REASON… IS BECAUSE WE PRACTICE SELF HATRED, A BY PRODUCT OF SLAVERY AND COLONIALISM.

    WE ARE ALWAYS ASKING WHITES FOR ECONOMIC HAND OUTS AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, YET WE HAVE NO PROBLEM SPENDING COLLECTIVELY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ONE MONTH ON A HOLIDAY THAT WE HAVE NO HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO. THOSE MONIES COULD BUILD BUSINESS, HOSPITALS, AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WHICH ALL COULD PROVIDE ECONOMIC ADVANCE FOR NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE BUT ANY PERSON OR GROUP THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

    THE AVERAGE WHITE PERSON IN AMERICA HAS 35 HUNDREDTHS TIMES MORE WEALTH THAN THE AVERAGE BLACK PERSON. A BLACK PERSON CAN NOT BE DEEMED EQUAL TO HIS WHITE COUNTER PART WITH SUCH STAGGERING DISPARITY.
    WE AS WERE MANY OTHER NON-WHITES WERE TRICKED INTO BELIEVING THEIR RELIGIOUS AND BACKWARD SOCIAL CUSTOMS, WHICH DISARMED US AND MADE IT DIFFICULT TO LITERALLY FIGHT BACK AGAINST THEM EVEN IN THE FACE OF OUR OWN IMPENDING DESTRUCTION.

    SO LETS NOT CONTINUE TO FOLLOW ALONG THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD.
    I TRULY PRAY THAT WE FINALLY FIGURE OUT THESE WORD GAMES THEY AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP ARE PLAYING ON US BEFORE IT IS TO LATE.

    • I always felt like GOD HAS GIVEN ME WHAT IS MINE NO MAN! You have to HAVE THE FAVOR OF GOD IN YOUR LIFE TO KNOW THAT YOU NEED NOT TO ASK ANYONE FOR HANDOUTS! I PERSONALLY DO NOT KNOW ANY BLACK PEOPLE WHO WILLINGLY ASK FOR HANDOUTS FROM THE GOVERNMENT OR WHITE PEOPLE IN GENERAL I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE MEDIA WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE! I AM AN INDEPENDENT THINKER AND I FEEL IT IS HIGH TIME FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS TO SUPPORT WHAT IS THEIRS FIRST! EVERYBODY ELSE DOES! AND WHO CARES WHAT THIS RACIST BAFFOON HAS TO SAY! HE IS PROBABLY SO UNLOVED BY HIS LOOSERISH FAMILY THAT IS WHY HIS INSANE b**t IS DOING ANYTHING FOR SOMEONE’S ATTENTION! IF YOU GO TO PLACES IN EUROPE, YOU WILL SEE HOW LOVED THE CAUCASIAN PEOPLE FROM AMERICA ARE LOVED OVER THERE!

    • Derrick,

      Could you post some titles of your reading material?

  30. Personally speaking I had to read the article twice to try and understand what James Wagner was saying.

    I think he was trying to say that there was a stalemate regarding consensus as to how ‘the slaves’ would be typed on census, and although they generally thought that we were subhuman they eventually came to an agreement with a ’3/5 compromise’ in order to pursue the greater cause or objective by adopting the ‘to form a more perfect union’ moniker in symbol and use this theme to substantiate the constitution.
    This in turn set up the ‘master-over-slave’ ethos which followed.

    With his comments I think James Wagner was acting in accordance with what or how his peers think today, and quite easily I could mentally place him in Constitutional Hall in Philadelphia 1787 among the other framers of the constitution deliberating on the same finer details of the document and coming to the same conclusions as his peers of that day had done.

    Should he be able to stay on as president of Emory University??

    If his presidency was to be terminated he would only go to another university somewhere and possibly say the same things again. The proactive thing would be for Wagner to be kept in check by conscientious black students and organisations having him to apologise for any offense caused and to explain his comments in full publicly and in front of our representitives, that way he would think twice about making comments of this nature.

    The Jews use the same principle by the way!!

    • IT WOULD MATTER NOT WHAT THEY THINK OR FEEL ABOUT US IF WE HAD A STRONG SENSE OF SELF AS A GROUP PEOPLE, BUT SINCE WE ACT AS THOUGH WE ARE DEPENDENT ON WHITE SOCIETY’S BENEVOLENCE, UNFORTUNATELY IT STILL DOES.

      that is exactly what i have been saying. those blacks who have a strong sense of self are not trying to police others, but making our way in the world as an individual and knocking down perceived barriers.

      negroes who have poor morals, no ethics, and no significant amount of intelligence look at others to point the finger at for their personal failures.

  31. As for Ben F. Johnson III, chairman…Your support comment for James Wagner is typical and the same BS heard for hundred of years. Its a shame White American academics do not have or can reach to the high level of humanity like Dr. Martin L. King Jr. with historical compassion and sincerity.

  32. Lifei Long,

    Your comprehension skills are very poor.

    I dont think you read my comment properly!

  33. Clearly, this individual (at his level)should know better. He is a leader in a top rated higher education organization. His comments represent that organizations value system. Using this historical disertion of history to imply “America at its best” is incredibly racist and stupid! It is absolutely sinister and deposes his character and manner of leadership. If the board is behind him. They too are in tandem with his outragous and old world view. None should continue to serve and be part of educating the future of this nation, because of one clear fact- they represent and are stuck in the past. Since education is suppose to be progressive, continueing, renewing and they only represent the past; they do not fit and therfore should be stripped of their power and influence and association with Emory University immediately. If this does not happen, Emory University’s reputation will suffer immensely for it.

    • take your dumb ignorant azz back to africa. u know nothing about our history, and should never be given a voice. you f8cked up africa so bad that even u dont want to live in it. STFU! u are so dumb that u left your black country to live in a white rascist country.

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  35. We as a group of people need to look out for each other and stop acting like crabs in a cook pot.
    It makes no since for us to vilify each other about how we are to act. It has been brought to our attention
    that (We Are The People Of The Book). We need to live as if we are upstanding in this world and act like it.
    We are told to live by the TORAH. Knowing that this will be very difficult to change our action, We should try to be uplifting in our treating of our community. I agree that joker is a race hater and we need to stay away from that institution period. GOD YHWH says that our time of punishment is about to come to an end.

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