Dangerous City In NJ Shuts Down Police Department
In spite of a reputation as one of the most dangerous cities in America, Camden, N.J. is reportedly starting a process that will eventually dissolve the existing police department. The dissolution of the department will rob close to 270 police officers of their jobs.
Although there are rumors of budget cuts, critics are accusing the Camden officials of dissolving the police department as part of a plan to get rid of the union. The alleged plan would be to then form a new police department, with the remaining officers, that are not part of a union, forming a new non-union division of the Camden County Police department.
The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the layoff plan was designed by Camden Mayor, Dana L. Reed, who’s plans were to make sure that the approximately 270 police offers who are being laid off would all have left the force no later than December 31st of this year. As part of the plan, while the officers who are laid off are leaving, the remaining officers, who would be part of the county force, would be in field training.
The county force would serve only Camden and could begin doing so as early as October.
The crime rate in Camden is reportedly so severe that police officers do not even bother to respond when they deem crimes to be minor. The problem is that crimes like auto theft and vandalism are considered minor.
Camden, N.J. is consistently ranked among the 10 most dangerous cities in the U.S.
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I applaud the mayor. All of these urban police depts should lay off lazy lout rogue policeman and take all the money incentive out of the job. These cities need new young blood soldiers who understand that their job is to control the streets, and shut down all this d**n nonsense by any means necessary – including deadly force. What’s the difference between shooting the perps, and allowing the perps to murder by drug poison. It is better to take out the perps than lose innocent people to drug poison.
You are a “f-u-c-k-ing” idiot!
Amen, his comment is totally witless. It’s about the people. If they have isses now, wait until there are 270 less Officers. I would hate to have to live there under those conditions.
My father was a Camden Police Officer for over 30 years and he wanted me alone with my five brothers to become Officers-OMFG I swear I wish I became one I would show those young f*****g punks what REAL GUN PLAY IS!!!!!
There should be some kind of program to save the teenagers, however. They are victims too.
I can’t speak for those that live without a police force, but years ago, I remember reading that removing the city police is one way to cut costs and then the county takes over the role.. it might work better in a smaller community, however.
How about hiring a police force that reflects the Camden community. They may be more incline to “serve and protect”.
It is absolutely ludicrous to remove the police force from a city rife with crime like Camden. . . to shave millions of dollars off the budget. Are you kidding me. It’s all about capitalism supporting racism and racism supporting capitalism. Innocent lives are being snuffed out everyday in Camden. If their police force is so rogue then yes those officers starting at the top should have to go. But if this is all about busting up the Union then that’s problematic. This is the same divisive measures that have caused the “working man” not to be able to rise above the $7.25 minimum wage. Again we’re back to the POWERFUL vs. the POWERLESS and if history serves me correct that will end in all out mayhem.
I agree totally. My husband’s favorite phrase for raising children. “Don’t let the inmates run the assylum”. Absolutely true of this community.
If the police are called off the streets then more young people will die. This is a travesty. You can’tjust let the bad people have their way without reprocusions. Let the police drive tanks, wear full body armour and shoot to kill. Early curfews, just shut the town down by dark. Have police cruise the town by night looking for any unsavory behaving people or vagrants and arrest for loitering.
Day and Night patrol, I’ve been thinking this same thing for all like urban communities. h**l if they can send troops afar to risks their lives and serve and protect why can’t they do the same right here by any means necessary. What is our future generations becoming, it’s soooo sad.
Who is going to pay for these patrols? Most of the folks in these neighborhoods are on assistance and dont pay taxes.
I do agree that we should pull back troops from other countries and pass the savings to major cities. Why are we rebuilding Afghanistan or other Middle East countries when: a) They dont want us there; b) They dont appreciate it; c) We could rebuild our own inner-cities like Detroit, Baltimore, etc. Inner-Cities could become major sources of jobs and opportunities for everyone; especially those who live in those commuinities. With more opportunity and jobs, more folks would be paying taxes and reducing the number of people on public assistance thus reducing government costs of social welfare. Additonally, more jobs would most likely reduce the crime in all neighborhoods. Seems easy enough.
Its a shame what the US Gov, at all levels, has done over the last decade or so and continues to do so today.
You are so right. If it’s bad now, it will only get worse because the criminals know there is no real threat.
Gilda, I agree with you. A lot of people don’t realize it, but the wages that they receive is an effect of the unions setting, and getting higher pay and benefits. If they are successful in getting rid of the unions, the average worker will see their pay, and benefits diminish. Companies, only pay you an higher wage, to retain, and hire new employees, and to keep the unions out. Without the unions, there is no threat to them, and therefore they can pay you any amount that they choose, as long as it meets the minimum wage requirement, which they will keep very low. How many of you could exist on minimum wage?
I have serious issues with police conduct too, and think a lot of them deserves to be put in jail, but we still need good cops, and you don’t get good cops, with low pay. As for those that think that hiring more minorities is the answer, are you insane? Some of the most ruthless, nasty, and dangerous cops, are black, and those dirty Hispanics. I’d rather a white cop arrest me, than any one of those two. Hispanic cops, are some of the most racist, and brutal cops that exist, and they especially hate black people, and that’s a fact.
OK MoonHead I was with you up until you started the color barrier nonsense, we have corrupt cops of all colors and the more likely at higher levels. How many at high ranking levels are black/hispanic?, you do the math in this state alon and I guarantee you will come up with more whites at the top of the ranks than bottom to be specific. I will say this and be done because I don’t want this topic to become a race war because the concerns and issues are far greater. I lost my only brother to this same type of violence while he was just up in jersey for the holidays and hit by drive by bullets. An investigations surrounding the release of his personals to the family turned into far more than expected. In the end top officials were brought up on charges, none were minority. So don’t use the race card and place blame without facts or life experiences which I can personally attest to. It’s not one description fits all, sorry.
Back to the subject at hand – ending violence and protecting hard working officers with the character and integrity they toook an oath to protect and serve no matter the community or the color of peoples skin. It burns me with this divisive mentality still in 2012…
Sista42: Excuse me, but I believe I have more direct experience in this matter than your one instance. When I was younger, I was arrested several times, and also had friends that were arrested, usually on misdemeanors, or bogus charges, and the majority of the arresting officers, were either African American, or Hispanic. These cops would beat the s**t out of us for nothing, and would brag about it at the station. I once had an disagreement with my girlfriend, that escalated into someone calling the police, even though there was no violence on my part. When the two black officers arrived, one of them seemed particularly interested in my girlfriend, who was very good looking. He then came over to me and attempted to beat the h**l out of me even though I was handcuffed. He then pulled his gun out, and told me that he was going to blow my head off, but my sister had just arrived, and she jumped in front of this b*****d, and told him that he was not going to shoot me, her brother. so he took me to the police station, where he and his partner continued the assault on me. they only stopped, when a white lieutenant walked in and stopped it. I sued the police department, and won a settlement. The two police officers were forced off the force, and my then girlfriend, is now my wife. I have also witnessed Hispanic cops beating the s**t out of black men, and calling then f*****g n*****s. One was even trying to throw a black man off the roof of a house next door to me, but I was looking out the window, and shouted that I witnessed what he was doing, and he stopped. These are just a couple of examples, and I could cite many more, but my time is limited. So I stand by my remark.
This is the most insane decision I have ever heard of. Are these people in the mayor’s office losing their tiny minds? They must want the thugs and crime lords to take over the city. IGNORANCE!
The city should deem drug offense as minor ( semi-legalizing them) and utilizing the man power on real crime. Allow marijuana stores to open, create red light districts and regulate traffic. If the do-gooders like john don’t like it tell them to eat s**t your trying to save our community and young people our ( white inspired) drug laws have destroyed our black/brown communities at the behest of these Caucasian do gooders who promote the racist war on drugs.
By doing so we could make Camden a international tourist city to rival such or drug tourist destinations as Amsterdam, Madrid and Los Angeles – http://www.njweedman.com/camden_city_plan.html
I wrote that 12 years ago – 20 years from now it will be praised with idiots like John above drop dead.
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All of the criminals are moving to Camden……..
If the trillions in our tax monies and expensive natural resources weren’t being stolen by a small group of “elite sociopaths” there would be little need for so many police (anywhere) in the first place!
It is difficult for those who dare not, cannot, and will not, follow national/world politics and our societal machinations to see the whole vivid picture! There is more to all of the horrible negative goings on around us than “meets the eye”, but the ability to follow the logical connections between the stories and the culprits responsible for inflicting so much damage on the people of the world escapes the mediocre uncaring, unenlightened mind!
It takes great study and a keen sense of logic and abstract reasoning to “connect the dots” so to speak. At some point during intense study one finds that there is a common thread which underlies all of our woes, and which affects our very frame-of-mind on many levels. It would be phenomenal if everyone were afforded broad, intense, advanced education and truthful information, but those same unscrupulous ultra-wealthy “elite” sociopaths who are intent on running the world, control ‘our’ collective wealth as they steal it, while denying us all, and our children, the proper education, health, and overall welfare so desperately needed!
Yes there would be Chaos beyond ones imagination if not for decent police officers. However, I question the behavior of a many of police officers of color-particular the African American officers.
I noticed in my town ( Newark, nj ) the Latino police fraternity dwarfs the African American fraternity. This should be no surprise when one can see the difference in the social interactions in the Latino community versus the AF Amer community. Yes they have their ups and downs,as well as unemployment issues,and drug addiction problems,as though we do. Yet they seem to have a sense of Unity that is more so obvious amongst themselves. Hence the expression-we shake the tree while they pick up the apples.
The African American police in my community I venture to say have reached a platue of success and power that one can reach with earning a high school education or a GED. This observation of mine doesn’t reflect anything scientific, or etched in stone by any stretch of the imagination-however when there’s no out reach programs to deter the youth in the neighborhoods (PAL ) to curb the behavior of the for the most part children from single parent ( most are mothers ) homes that are under educated and poor. So the saying it takes a village to raise a child isn’t applicable to our community today.
Well for the last Forty years of employing people of color ( African Americans ) to patrol our community- I can safely say that-due to the lack of education on the behalf
of the police officers- who elected to just have a job-and swagger around like they arrived-and failed to improve their communities-then elected to move to the surrounding towns such as Carteret NJ, Maple wood NJ, to name a couple of small towns where they run for cover and support other communities with the monies they made off the filth they tried not to fix.
Kudos to those who put their life on the line for the good of the community-and may they and their family be safe and healthy.
By the way-the minority Cops are on patrol in the streets-those who of rank don’t look like they are Latino nor African American. I say that to say, those Latinos and African Americans are in the eyes of the public-and fighting amongst each other within the force,but the shot callers are not Latino nor African American.
Boycott Christmas 2012
This is just another way to keep Black people killing each other without the presence of pigs!
This is genocide at its best and these pigs know what they are doing. Do y’all think they would desert an all cracker neighborhood without pigs? They know Camden will be like GUNSMOKE, WYATT ERP, AND ANNIE OAKLEY!!!
These pigs are gonna go somewhere else to protect their OWN kind!
YOU BETTER WANT TO KNOW IT!!!
I left a Phillies game one night and dropped a friend off who lives in Camden…I was SCARED to death…I saw zombies and people screaming and cussin’ at the Lord, one woman was naked standing around on Haddon Ave trickin’. They got some other stuff going on in Camden. That city is so far gone and it is tragic…
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h**l, Chicago is another high crime ridden city in which the major of that city called in for help from the National Guard, Baltimore, New Orleans…need I go on. I agree that this is a budget cut move butm shoud be thought about carefuly. There oribaly could have been many things fixed, retraining, etc. that still could have help the dept.It sads that the economy if affecting the many works of our cities and towns today. If the Major of Camden is going to use the county department to over see the city,then there should be police officers that are fimiliar with the culture and the pace of that city. Special training, and other factors such as everyone on the scences and behind the scenses is on their toes at all times. There still might be some good officers from the ones who are going to lose their jobs that should stay on.
I can remember one of my high school teachers telling my class how safe and nice a place DENVER was back in the fifties. There was a curfew for young people in place at that time. I wonder if a curfew would work for Camden?