Controversy is brewing in Shiner Texas over a 23-year old man who killed the man he found molesting his five-year old daughter in a barn. To date, the man hasn’t been arrested and some legal experts are questioning why he is still free. They argue that vigilante justice can’t be condoned, no matter what the circumstances.
A grand jury in Texas has been called to look into the case and the circumstances of the killing, to determine if the father was justified. He didn’t use a weapon, only his fists, but he was so furious that he beat the man until he was dead.
“Assuming it’s true that this guy was molesting the daughter … he would then have the right to defend her and hit him enough to have him stop,” James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, told Foxnews.com. “But you cannot summarily execute him, even though I can understand the anger he would have.”
The question being asked now is when the defense excuse is no longer valid.
“If he had a weapon and he used it to stop a s****l assault, he would not be indicted, but, ironically, the fact that he didn’t have a weapon leaves him more legally vulnerable than otherwise he would be,” Geraldo Rivera said. “In this case, you grab him off, now you’ve stopped the s****l assault, but now what are you doing? At what point does prevention of the s*x assault become revenge, the implementation of vigilante justice?”
Public opinion is behind the father in the case, with many parents saying they would do the same to protect their child.
“Any father would have done that,” Michael James Veit, a neighbor, told CNN. “Everybody is saying the father is justified.”
The incident took place last Saturday, according to Lacava County Sheriff Micah Harmon. The man’s daughter had gone to the barn to feed the family chickens, when she started to scream. When the father came to find out what was going on, he saw a family friend sexually abusing the girl. Names have not yet been released to protect the victim.
The man died from blunt force trauma to the head and neck. Police on the scene felt that they had no reason to arrest the father and that he was remorseful that he killed the man.
“It wasn’t his intent [to kill anybody]. He was protecting his daughter and doing what he thought he had to do to protect his daughter,” said the Sheriff.
If I had of caught a man molesting my son, I would try my best to torture and then kill him. This man deserves death.
I have a sister that was raped @ 9 yrs old, who also endured abuse @ home, she is now 46 yrs old still in a marriage to an abusive husband since age 19. Molesting/Rape most often affect a person through out their life.
Being a rape victim myself, I can honestly testify that I have not had a decent relationship in my 50+ years of living.. No trust. If a man was in my home, I would not could not sleep. I would sit up all night drink ink coffee and water. If it wasn’t for the grace and mercy of the Lord, I would still be living in fear. I always felt that I would absolutely kill if my daughter was molested.
The courts do not care about the victims; they give the predator a few years in prison then he’s back on the streets molesting another child. The system is broken. My spirit hates that a soul was taken, but my heart is yelling…he got what he deserved. There is far to many predators in this world. I’m sure many of them were once victims themselves.
babies and children being s****l abused should not be tolerated! first a Beat Down,Castration and life in prison. Good for the father he stepped UP!
I was sexually abuse many times over and I wish more than anything my parents would have killed the man who did it to me. My father never protected me the way this father protected his 5 year old daughter. I told my parents each time the man sexually abuse me and they never believed a word that came out of my mouth. To this day it is still very painful. So I stand behind the father 100%. People who molest children are sick monsters who need to be shot to death.
I don’t think that he did anything wrong!As a matter of fact he did the world a favor.If the molester lived he would have done a little time in jail and would have been let out to torture more children in the world.Now we never ever have to worry about him again.
They should give the parent a medal. He stopped a sicko before he
had a chance to do something like this again, and, perhaps, face
a jury or judge who would let him off too easy.
The molester got what he deseved. He can’t do that to another child.
I have to say that I would have used some kind of weapon….what ever I could get my hands on.
Murder is a sign of insanity all to itself! One human commits a heinous insane act on a child, and another person commits a heinous and insane act on that person. At some point even insane people who live in denial should recognize their own dementia, but that would also mean that they would need to work towards correcting each and every one of the numerous mental faults, inconsistencies and various psychotic issues we are all harnessed with, merely because we are human animals.
Because our basic mental state is animalistic, many of us struggle to adhere to a social structure that is not always structured to suit every individual ‘beast’. Some manage to get by, but many fall desperately and fatally short. Our prisons are filled with those who fell short, and our graveyards are crowded with them. Look around the world and you will see humans committing unspeakable heinous acts on each other! Look at our government and if you pay close attention you will see that our authorities are committing heinous acts on us and others, and our politicians are providing the elite carte-blanche privileges that allow individual corporate execs and owners to promote and commit heinous crimes around the world. So the best a more sane person can do is to recognize his/her own insanity and work hard at improving.
Child molesters know they are sick and that what they do is wrong which is why they try to hide their actions. However Pedophilia is a sickness for which there is no cure. The closest thing to a cure is chemical castration along with intense therapy and even then recidivism is very high. As for the father, his rage probably did not allow him to even think about all the blows he was throwing until the damage was done. He snapped, plain and simple. If I understand what you are saying I think his remorse shows his recognition that he was insane in that moment. I hope he doesn’t get any jail time.
I agree with you. I would have used something to hurt him very bad and if he died then so be it.
I’m with you, I hope he does not get any time.
Here we go injecting opinions before we know what happened, can’t we wait few days until the police does its job before we jumpe to conclusions. We could have left Geraldo out of this.
I feel that people that are writing about this are the average person that loves their children very much. I can’t think of anyone that would really tie into someone that was hurting on of their children.
I am 100% behind the dad. Because I would have done the same thing if anyone molested my son I don’t I care if it was a family member.
as that moment he couldnt do or think about nothing but his child!
Your view is entirely unrealistic. Saying s****l predators need to say ” hey I need to be a better person” is past the point of being some real intellectual bullshit and I hope that no child ever has to rely on you for safety or protection. Being a wordy, analytical, intelligent compiler of excuses sounds as if you are condoning. And excuses will not save any child when a predator realizes an opportunity. This child did what she should have asking for help and the father did what needed to be done if the athourities felt the need to not judge him then you should also.
@ WizardG
If this is true where the man found the molester raping his five year old daughter, than the molester deserves to die. In the Arab world, a man would be beheaded. Molestation is another form murder. You kill a child’s innocence. If the father did not kill the molester; he would have been sent to prison, have three meals a day with medical and dental benefits. This little girl will have to live with the trauma for the rest her life. I agree with the father, he should have blown his brains out.
People must suffer the consequences of their actions. The molester committed a heinous act on an innocent vulnerable five year old girl. The actions of the father was to protect his daughter and that is what he did. Perhaps he didn’t mean to take it that far – but he protected his daughter. Tired of the courts taking years to sentence someone only to reduce their sentence and let them go while the victims suffer for life.
Go dad!!! U rock! To the s****l crime survivors! We know well that
Validation is a key factor in the healing process.little miss will feel the
Pain, but she is more likely to recover because the strongest
Male image in her life, her daddy, showed her how precious she really is!!!
Vigilante justice!!! It is the only kind that is purer than the structured
Justice that often is self serving and forgets the victims!!! There is quite
A bit more vigilante justice needed in this world!!!!
An eye for an eye!
“an eye for an eye” then the father should receive death?
Shut up, Olivia. Dad did great. The hit who got killed should be forgotten by his family. Olivia shut the f**k up.
I am a father of a three year old…I would have done the exact same thing and would have felt no remorse ! No, he should not go to jail ! They should infact throw him a parade ! The.fact of the matter is anybody can sit back and speculate about vigilantism and him taking the law into his own hands but what people don’t realize is if it were their son/daughter they would have done the same exact thing ! Any parents in any culture in this entire world (with the exception of a few) would have done the same thing ! We are all programmed with an animal instinct to protect our offspring and that is a fact. Try walking up on a lion cub or taking a dogs puppy or grabbing a baby duck and see what happens…we have that same.instinct ! Even though one of the commandments is “thou shall not kill” I can almost guarantee he will be forgiven by the good Lord…if he is tried, convicted and.goes to jail I will be the first to pickett and start petitions…if they arrest him they will have to arrest me !
Me too. And every father who protects his kids. Or mothers as well.
I don’t think the father should be charged or jailed, especially after this particular ordeal. his daughter needs him more now than before. If he were to ripped out of her life and jailed she would be even more traumatized and hurt. He only submitted to a natural law, and that was to protect his offspring. Love is the greatest force, and the profound love that he has for his daughter compelled him to respond as he did. That kind of love mixed with hurt, anger, and shock….the results of what happened when he himself witnessed his helpless baby being abused are not surprising to me. Leave that man with his family, the most that should happen is him being counseled.
If the father would’ve shot the molester and the molester would’ve died, the fathers actions were justified to protect his daughter.So if he beat the molester to death, there is no difference other than he used his fist to do the job instead of a gun. Same end result. The dad is a hero not a inmate. Let the man out of jail and let him goon with his life.IF WE DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING?WE’LL FALL FOR ANYTHING!
This is a example of the consequences to all child molesters. Soon or later you will be caught, Stop! Don’t start, and don’t even think about it,or else. I know I will have no mercy for one that does this to a child. Why let one destroy a childs life for their pleasure? Can’t get a woman, don’t get a child.
I applaud any parent who shows his child that he/she is worth everything to them. Hopefully this child will not have to doubt and hate himself for years to come, ruining any chance for a normal adulthood.
I agree that the man molesting the girl received just punishment from the father. I as a parent would act no other way. However, the killer must face the law and consequences and be arrested and tried in a court of law.
The father should stand like a man like he did in the barn and take the punishment for killing another human being, however disgusting.
So you are in essence referring to the child molester as a human being? Interesting.
Shut up b***h. You get your child molested & go to court with it. LET THE DADDY LOOSE. OLIVIA STOP TYPING.
If he had taken the time to go get a gun they would call it premeditated … he did the right thing and I pray that he and his little girl will get through this … had it been me … i would have picked up hopefully a pitch fork and ended his life right there … I think the father should be applauded .
This father deserves an award.
This is a really hard question, but an important one … especially for one such as myself who professes nonviolence as a basic way of life. If someone was raping/molesting a family member of mine (boy OR girl), I would probably come completely unglued as the father the article did … and if my actions resulted in another human being’s death, just as upset about that. That is HUMAN. My connection with the Creator though tells me to try and reconcile enemies and forgive the wrongdoer. Even draft boards (when the draft was active) would still recognize a conscientious objector even though they might kill in a fit of rage, or self defense. The question for them is whether you oppose all WAR. I personally would not have the father charged under the circumstances. If he went out and killed the molestor the next day … that’s another story, and premeditation … planned ahead. I’d charge that person. Pedophiles and rapists are probably the hardest types of criminal behavior for a decent human being to deal with.
I wouldn’t kill him but I would surly beat his a*s black and blue. Mess with me daughter and You think you’re going to get away with it. h**l to the no. It makes me made just by thinking of it. Lord Help Me.
keith
You’re not mad enough. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t kill him.
I pretty much would done the same. Any sick a*s grown person to molest a child who cannt defend themselves deserves death.
I was sexually abused at 5 and it continued till I was 14. By 3 of my Uncles. Curiously, they each thought they were the only ones. I should mention that it happened consecutively, not concurrently. It started again when I was 17 and didn’t stop till I was 23 when I left the country. This time by my father. I know what this does to you. If the little child were mine, I would kill him and promptly hand myself in to the authorities. End of.
LIKE IT OR NOT IT IS A COIN TOSS? BUT TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. MY SISTER WAS ONCE DRAGGED FROM A CAR BY MY NEIGHBOR AND BEATEN. I COULD HAVE DONE NOTHING,BEAT HIM WITH THE BASEBALL BAT I HAD OR CALL THE COPS. I DID THE LATTER. AFTER HE SERVED HIS TIME I CHOSE THE RIGHT TIME AND PLACE TO f**k HIM UP WITH THAT BASEBALL BAT(FIVE YEARS LATER).
Well, Zimmerman was let go after killing a teenager that was carrying skittles and a tea…so, I would say the man that killed his daughters molester..toooooo bad…I would have done the same….
If i was the father i would have done the exact same thing.
who are the idiots askin why is it takin so long for him to be arrested? thats because he did nothin wrong!!! he did what any normal thinkn man woulda done walkin in ona perverted sick sob molestin his baby… beat him to death!!!
YES THIS FOOL DESERVED
TO DIE
Geraldo Rivera is not a Judge, Lawyer or a Police Officer. WHY LISTEN TO HIM ON MATTERS LIKE THIS? Based on his view of the matter, he is without emotioms or good understanding (a lot like the monster who was raping the baby)I wonder what would he have done had he heard his little 4 year old daughter screeming, ran to her rescue and found her being brutalize and raped?
the bible says if anyone harms any of these littleones it would be better off if he was not born and that a milestone be tired around his kneck and he be thrown into the sea..LEAVE THE FARTHER ALONE HE REACTED TO A VERY ADVERSE SITUATION
He deserved death on the spot. He is a human that cannot be redeemed, therefore, he deserved death!
I probably would’ve done the same thing. Question is, does it legally open the door for a rash of “oh, I killed him ’cause I ‘thought’ he was molesting my daughter” or “I never really liked him with my daughter” type killings.
I commented the other day about the parents who killed their daughter’s pimp which was premeditated and said it shouldn’t have happened especially since they had three younger children and the daughter actually implicated them knowing they were trying to save her now the younger children have no parents to raise them since they are both in jail, however in this situation you walk upon a crime against your child and their screaming for your help, to me that is considered temporary insanity whatever happens, seeing someone raping your five year old child would be so incomprehensible to the brain you would essentially black out and not recognize your own strength I believe, so he should get off on temporary insanity, being vigilante justice would take some thought and preparation this happened in the spur of the moment in my opinion.
I would have done the same thing this father did, he could not stop! He saw “red” and he was protecting his daughter on his property. This is happening way too often, and one or two years in prison does not cut it! In my state alone, teachers, neighbors, doctors, strangers, firemen and priests, have all been charged within the last few years of abusing children. These are people we tell our children to respect and look up to. Sometimes we as parents have to do what the law can’t!
Her father did the right thing. His daughter was being raped, and he killed the rapist. Correct response to stopping the unlawful behavior.
He did exactly what he should have done. I remember years ago a man killed his son’s attacker in Atlanta airport. I think anyone that would do that to a child deserve the h**l beat our of them. He would have done it again. This wasn’t the first time he did that to a child.
Daddy heard his daughter’s cry and came to her rescue. That is what daddy does!!!!!
He did the right thing! Anyone who preys on children to sexually abuse and rape to satisfy their sick s****l needs deserves to be beaten and put down!
The worst thing in the world for a child is to be sexually assulted and tell and have no one to help them. This is what happened to my sisters and I as little children and it should never happen to another child in life. To have your father defend you and remove your abuser from ever having an opportunity to do this to you again, to another child, or get away with a slap on the wrist is an emotional release for the victim. Is it right you have to ask? My email address is also the title of my book, website and workshops because I had no one to tell. The people who saw that my siblings and I were being molested and they knew that the perpetrators were my uncle and biological daddy cared about their friendship with the two of them more than rescuing a child. I pray for the families involved and I would like for anyone who has a child to tell me what you would do if it was your child. As for him going to jail No I don’t think he should do a day he needs an honor. He will have to live with his daughter’s pain and the emotional damage her abuser caused for the rest of his life. To me that will be punishment enough! Fifty plus years old and I am still trying to heal it has not been easy but everyday is another day. My abusers are all dead now and that was when I started the healing process. My siblings are in a total different state of mind and healing has not even begun for them. Can I ask what do you think other little girls and boys are saying to themselves. I’ll tell you what I hear them saying, “If I tell my Daddy her will go to Jail”. So we go back to children being afraid to tell their parents as in PENN STATE, EDDIE LONG, THE PREIST and on and on………… Find a real criminal and do what is right to honor your title.
In all honesty, I understand the legal implications behind the indictment, but what is interesting is the similarities to the movie “Time To Kill” in which he plays a father who killed his daughter’s abusers as well. I guess the situation is quite similar, however let’s see how it pans out for him. I would vote to let him go because no one should be arrested or imprisoned for protecting one’s family. Anyone with common decency would think the same way.
This Man Does Not Deserve To Go To Prison & The Judge That Sentence Him Should Be Removed From Court Forever. I Wish I Could Have Killed The Child Abuser For Him. I Am Sick & Tired Of These Worthless Pieces Of Trash Raping, Molesting & Killing Our Children. I Hope The Father Doesn’t Go To Prison But I Also Hope Prisoners Kill The Molester.
What I think is that the Father was 100% correct in what he did. It’s not that he took the law in his own hands, but at that very moment he did what first came to mind & that was to hurt thr man hurting & molesting his daughter. Come on now, WHAT PERSON DO YOU KNOW WOULD NOTHAVE DONE THE SAME THING (if not worse). I’m not saying the Father deserves a medal, but he NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED AS DOING THE RIGHT THING PROTECTING HIS DAUGHTER.) A 5 year old ” HAD NO CHANCE” of protecting herself & she did the tight thing….”SCREAM!!!!”
If all fathers took this kind of action when it comes to s****l predators we wouldn’t have any. The father did the right thing and I’m d**n proud of him. The legal system is a doggone joke.
THE FATHER WAS PROTECTING HIS FIVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER. WHAT MAN, WOULDN’T HAVE DONE THE SAME THING IF THAT HAD BEEN HIS DAUGHTER. WHEN YOU ARE ANGRY, YOU CAN’T TURN IT OFF IN AN INSTANT. IT MUST BE PLAYED OUT. SURE HE’S SORRY FOR KILLING THE MAN. THERE WASN’T INTENT TO KILL HIM, JUST GIVE HIM A GOOD OLD FASHION a*s WHIPPING, BUT IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT ALL SENSES LOST – HE LOST CONTROL OF ALL HIS HUMAN FACULTIES. SO DEATH WAS INCURRED. JUSTICE! JUSTICE! WHERE IS JUSTICE FOR THAT CHILD? SHE STILL HAS TO DEAL WITH WHAT HAS HAPPEN TO HER. WHAT WILL JUSTICE DECLARE FOR HER???
I understand that vigilante justice could spiral out of control if this is not handled appropriately, HOWEVER, a jury of his peers would be hard pressed to convict the father. The father should not serve time or be put on probation. People get away with senseless acts of violence or are not punished to the full extent of the law. THIS WAS NOT A SENSELESS ACT OF VIOLENCE. THIS WAS THE DEFENSE OF A CHILD (BY THE PARENT); A CHILD THAT COULD NOT DEFEND HERSELF. Don’t waste tax payer money on a case like this. Use the time and resources for someone that deserves to be punished and it IS NOT this DAD.
If this act was not caught it would have been a life sentence for the little girl. Child abusers, especially those abuses that are s****l are not punished enough.
I’m just happy that just about everyone is in agreement; so the DA probably won’t even touch the case, knowing it’s a public opinion hand grenade.
If I caught someone molesting my child my action I can’t explain; but he or she would never, never breath again.
The killer of this molester will not be charged as per the grand jury.
for me I will find my ex told me messed with my daughter I will kill him. beckett throw me a priso take away my life I don’t care he never touch another kid something justice won’t do