Man Pleads Guilty to Killing 4-Year Old That He Thought was Gay
A man in North Carolina has pleaded guilty to killing a 28-year old woman and 4-year old boy that he thought was gay. Peter Lucas Moses has been arrested for the murders of Jadon Higganbothan and Antoinetta Yvonne McKoy. Moses was the leader of a religious sect that consisted of women who called him “Lord.”
Moses lived with three of the women and counted them as his “wives.” He had nine children and a one bedroom home in Durham, North Carolina. He is the biological father of all of the children except for the one he allegedly killed.
Moses’ sect identifies themselves as The Black Hebrews. The members believed that they were direct descendants of the ancient tribes of Israel. They were also preparing for a race war that would leave black people as the supreme beings at its end.
Former District Attorney Tracey Cline says that Moses shot Jadon because he thought the boy was gay.
“In the religious belief of that organization, homosexuality was frowned on,” she said.
Both of the victims were shot in the head, according to the autopsy. The bodies were found in plastic bags in the backyard of Moses’ mother, Sheilda Harris.
The guilty plea means that Moses will face two consecutive life sentences without the chance for parole instead of receiving the death penalty.
“He pleaded guilty to two counts of first degree murder and agreed to testify against his co-defendants if he is called upon to testify,” District Attorney Leon Stanback is quoted as saying.
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People, the devil is alive and working. Arm yourself with the word of God because this twisting of the bible is out there. You better know for yourself.
Amen. The devil is showing his hand more and more everyday. Eyes but can’t see, hears but can’t hear, heart but can’t love. Judge rigtheous judgement.
WHAT DEVIL? SMH… the man is the devil and anyone that follows that religious BS is also as well. Delusional belief systems like that this, produce such people. Christians are a MESS.
Christians are not a mess disciples of ignorance is the problem! The word says study to show self! So then you will know when your being deceived! Church like schools provide only part of the equation the rest is solely up to individual. God bless you!
Amen Emma
Do you know the connection between Lord Peter Lucas Moses and the Bo People who lives some 65,000 years ago? If you do not know Bo you have been misled by the limited intellects from the Near East region and Europe.
Christians are not a mess… I consider myself to be a christian but I read my bible and study to better understand for myself… If my pastor told me he was gonna kill all gays or lesbians, my bible and common sense tells me he’s not the pastor I need to be serving God under… A lot of people are so eager to serve God that they fall under false prophets… God takes care of babies and fools so I’m sure the two of them are in heaven…
People are so busy serving “THEIR MAN OF GOD” instead of serving God. You seem to give the pastor too much credit, time and money. You put all your faith and trust in him and make him a God..People he went to school to study the bible and learn how to infuse his voice with emotion to stir and work your emotions. The more emotional he can get you the more you turn the purse strings alose. When God sent his disciples out to preach his word and gospel they carried nothing with them and amassed nothing. These mega preachers are just men. They lie, steal, cheat on their spouses and keep secrets. They are first of all men and preaching is a career for some of them, not a calling on their life. See them for who. This man came on his own and showed himself to be despicable in his ways. I feel sorry for all those women but mostly all the children that he produced from his l**t of the flesh. He was out of control and sought his own selfish, evil and lecherous ways. He wanted to be like God by making the women call him Lord. There is none other but the true and living God, this man is an imposter and a poor one at that.
I don’t think they are yet in Heaven but in their graves awaiting Judgement Day. People are misled at most funerals with preachers lying saying this for the Bible does not say this but says the dead is sleeping in their graves untill. The Bible says the dead knows nothing, they are not looking down or seeing anything, they are simply sleep, like you are when you go to bed at night.
DONT JuDGE, LISTEN TO HOW YOu SOuND. CHRISTIANS ARENT A MESS PEOPLES MINDS ARE A MESS. LOOK AT THE WORLD WERE LIVING IN, EVERYBODYS MIND IS SCREWED uP IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, EVERY TIME WE LEAVE OuT THE DOOR OF OuR PLACE OF RESIDENCE, IF WE WANNA SuRVIVE, WE MuST PuT THAT SHARK GEAR ON OR OuR AZZ IS ATE uP.
Well let me RESTATE what I said earlier as I press the SEND button too soon before editing my comments. What I meant to say is “SOME CHRISTIANS are a MESS.” Now that I stand by because its true and evident based upon SOME people taking literal interpretations from antiquated scriptures, that are allegorical, metaphorical, plagarized, written by man and mistranslated and historically inaccurate. Some of this evil perpetrated upon this child that may or may not have grown up to be gay is found in the “negative stigma that many christians perpetuate in their views on gay people and homosexuality”.
All religion is a mess, because it is man made, there are too many different beliefs,and only one True God, people making GOD what they want him to be, instead of accepting him for what he truly is. There is nothing religous about GOD.
YPL, this has nothing to do with being a misled Christian! This has to do with a man who was probably molesting that child, thinking that it was that baby’s fault he was molesting him. He probably told his mom and presto, he killed them both to keep everyone from knowing what a homosexual/pedifile he was!
OMG….. Now that was probably the problem, right there!
Amen! You couldn’t have said it better
AMEN!!! Put on the whole armor of God!! The devil is definately on his job!! Stay prayed up, teach your children to pray. Know Gods word, if you read the Word of God for yourself, noone can tell you differently!!
My God! How do people believe such foolishness! Ladies it seem that men with the devil in them, can penetrate our minds, bodies & souls in any shape, fashion or form! LORD my azzzzz! Wake up ladies, not all men who claim to be into God are just walking/talking/f-king demons~
What the h**l good, would putting a d**n bible in your hands, or the words in your heart, do to stop a bullet, or a knife? Let’s be real, did your god stop this child, or his mother from being slaughtered by this animal? You religious nuts, need to get off of your knees, and stop reciting some foolish words, and petition your lawmakers here on earth, for more stringent, and immediate laws against religious fanatics, and other murderers. If praying is the answer, then why do we have people dying like this every second? Please, stop shouting these stupid fairy tales. If you want to believe in this nonsense, that’s fine, but please follow what your Jesus said, and that is to pray by yourself in private. Anything else, is just grandstanding, and propaganda.
This animal, needs to be put to death, along with all of his stupid wives, and all religion should be abolished, or taxed to death.
I agree that this animal deserves the death penalty but whether you believe it or not. God is real.
A common sense comment. Tell ‘em Moon!
No one has any right to take someones life, regardless of what his, belief is, I don’t know anything about the Black Hebrews, but you are not a descendant of Jesus Christ or GOD for that reason, simply because of your race,, or your skin color,or where you think you came from, and even if his religion did not accept homosexuality, (which the TRUE GOD does not) It is not his place to take someone’s life and a child at that, who does not even know the difference between right or wrong yet,this child does not even know what homosexuality is, and if he was gay, you as an adult is suppose to teach a child, not hold them accountable, at least let the child grow up to make his own decisions about his life. You know what the Bible and Jesus Christ says about anyone that harms a child.
This thing was a poor excuse for a man!
Nothing Spirually from GOD our creator, murders a child, or anyone for that matter!
I’m spiritual, and I don’t subscribe to the notion that one religion is necessarily better than the other. Africans did not follow Christianity or Judaism before being forced to come to the new world. The ancient Germanic ancestors of many whites followed Viking gods. There are moral people during all times, and there are crazy people who use the names of various dieties to commit crimes.
Study your Bible, A lot of the Bible takes place on the African continent. There majority of the people in the bible are people of color. Don’t let the mis-representation of the word by a few lost souls or Satin fool you. Study for yourself.
Amen @crystal…
Crystal, “a lot of the Bible” did NOT take place on the Continent of Africa. It took place in what is now the Middle East. Iran was Persia. Baghdad was Babylon. Remember the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? They were one of the Eight Wonders of the World. And, of course, there was Palestine.
Well the last time I was in a. Classroom there was no such continent called the middle east there are only seven continents and the middle east is not one read a map before trying to correct someone.
WOW… people get touchy when someone tries to share facts with them. I don’t believe Ruby referenced the CONTINENT of the MIDDLE EAST. She pointed out that most of the bible places are referenced in a PLACED now called the “Middle East”… geez ignorance is not BLISS when you are spreading it to the masses. We can all use some knowledge. #schoolisnowinsession
You do realize the so called “middle east” was all once part of the so called “African” continent as was India do you not?! Poor black people! Your true identity and history has been completely robbed from you and many of you are simply non the wiser!
But the color of the people in the Bible do not matter. What matters is what the people in the Bible represent and how they lived. I had to tell someone to stop teaching a child that the color of Christ mattered. A lot of people are so busy trying to be pro- this or that, that they forget the core of what the real meaning is. Not criticizing anyone, just wanted to let you all know that color does not matter, and no, most of the Bible did NOT take place on the continent of Africa. It was the Middle East.
The color of the people in the bible does matter if it didn’t why did the cucasian make them in their image,and everything else.
Kathy….Color does not matter to GOD, he has his chosen people from every race, the reason there are so many different races is because of what happen in the Garden of Eden, when God kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden. They were fruitful and multiplied, and scattered all over the world. GOD has his peo;e already chosen, and it ain”t by skin color
All of those coninents you just named are in the Horn of Africa, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc…….World geography, plus your BIBLE!
ummm…none of the Bible took place in Iran (Persia) although there were Persians in the bible. The Bible took place in Syria, Canaan (Palestine), Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Egypt, and Ethiopia. Later in the New Testament, things happened in Turkey and Europe as well. So yes, “a lot” of the Bible did in fact take place in Africa.
Actually, ancient and medieval Africans did practice both Christianity and Judaism. Ethiopia was the first state to adopt Christianity. The Ghana Empire practiced Judaism. There are several Jewish indigenous African societies. How in the world did they come to be??
Nothing to say accept It’s A d**n SHAME, Just A d**n SHAME.
Wow….the word lie is in religion smh…and it keeps getting human beings in trouble all the time…
this is what christianity does to a natuaral born a**hole. this better than thou attitude and arrogance is european authored. we must stop following this insanity. this murderer is the real f****t.
Elaine, first of all, if you knew what you were talking about you’d know that the Black Hebrews hate Christians just as much as your hateful self. And, they do not call themselves Christians.
Dam that,take him outside and shoot him in the head, stupid sons of b*****s what wrong with people today some of us that weak minded knowing that life is ours not to take, burn this mother u know what in prison for killing a helpless child
Correction: this is what religions, ie, chsristianity, islam and judaism do to natuarl born a**holes. the better than thou attitude and arrogance is european authored. stop the insanity. this murderer is the real f****t.
You know, this is why I have a tremendous love for Gay people. You see, for some ODD reason people feel that JUST because they are religious or JUST because they go to church or JUST because they read the bible, they have the right to dictate to someone else how to live their lives. Homophobia is A SIN, because people who are homophobic hate gay people. To hate anyone is a sin. This maniac shot a poor mother and child because of his demented beliefs. And there are stupid brothers in the streets today, who have those same feelings and have no idea how easy it is for the devil to manipulate those feelings, into doing an unspeakable act, just like this maniac. For all of you men and women, who harbor hate and ill feelings towards gay, people, you are not that far from the murderer, whether you want to believe this or not. If you feel someone is sinning, let the Lord take care of them. While you are hating someone who you think is living a life of sin, YOU ARE SINNING YOURSELVES by hating.
And I Thank You!
Now Amen to that!!! Fornication is a sin no matter who u are with. Ppl think about this….Are u judging someone just bc they don’t sin as you do? Bc we ALL sin.
Aaaaaammeenn
There is no little sin and there is no big sin. murder is no different than stealing they are both considered sin.
Thank You!!! Ms.Peppa you are absolutely correct. It breaks my heart to know that a baby and his mother didn’t even get a chance. It’s a shame. How can anyone be so perverse to judge a child’s s****l orientation at 4 years old?? He wasn’t even old enough to be sure himself. Another case of very disorganized religion.
Let’s not forget the victims. 4-year old bEautiful Child. The young womAn who tried to. EScpapE. The “neighbor” let her get killed. We. Should also look @ the neighbor.”Love thy neighbor,as yourself” not argue over religious viewPoints. Last researchErs proved “WE ARE. ALL FROM. AFRICA”
This Guy is psychotic. Religion is just cover. Dont blame religion. Title of article is manipulative. Why mom not in title. Is moms death not as important as child? Gay propaganda. Manipulation harms credibility.
Yes the guy is Psychotic, but Psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind where a person engages in hallicinations, delusions, imparied insight and a loss contact with reality. RELIGION is more than just a cover but an instigating factor in that there are just as many delusions, impaired insights and unvalidated beliefs that lends itself to disturbing behavior that is prejudiced, biased, divisive and abusive- depending on how its interpreted or placed in context. This man’s actions is not a sign of gay propaganda, yet further proof that DEMANDS THAT PEOPLE further evaluate their irrational fears and antiquated philosophical beliefs they hold at heart on sexuality, child rearing, gay people and general reality as they attempt in to live in a diverse society. I’ve always believed religion has done more harm than good in this world—
The mom of The boy killed the woman who tried to excape. Pay attention.The world??????
Hating behavior. Not the person. more lies and manipulation.
There is no need to really hate a behavior since hate is at its core HARDENED FRUSTRATION, a lack of empathy, compassion, Understanding and yes forgiveness (unconditional love). If a person committing such a crime or sin, as well as those judging and disturbed by such “offensive” actions were able to move beyond HATRED, the problem would have never existed. Hatred is a limitation in ones perception and understanding of human value that comes through our interactions with one another. This unfortunate killing of this child, presents some deep messages to our society about the subtle and blatant way that we use religion to justify and persecute people unreasonable and unsoundly based upon rigid scriptural or religious interpretation, which ultimately should not be a factor in determining a persons value. There are many good, righteous, reverent, sound and intelligent minded people who are not religious nor christian– the come from all races, genders, s****l orientations, economic classes and philosophical backgrounds.
One must always be careful when it comes to religion. Please remember at its best religion is a “pathway” to wholeness in human life, at its worst it teaches hatred, non-tolerance of others who are different, leads to those who are crazy enough to believe they have a monopoly on “Truth” and everyone else is wrong therefore it seperates instead of unifying. Religion is not the same as “spirituality” which seeks after the creative force we christians we call God. Religion is man-made ritual, routine, custom, traditions that seek to “honor” God indigenously and culturally. Spirituality seeks after the essence of the creative good of all in unison with the Spirit of the Creative Power. Watch out for cults, and many false prophets. Christianity is contaminated as well by the pyschopathic parasites who feed on the vissicitudes of life that everyone at some point and time must deal with. This demon deserves the death penalty.
ALRIGHT MS. PEPPA YOU TOLD THE TRUTH AND SHAMED THE DEVIL. THANK TOU LORD
Crazy! Voluntary slaves to a crazy man!
How crazy is that! Women are desperate to say I have a man, that they will take whatever they can get. The Bible says, “I am the truth, the way, and the life, not Moses! Better get the word for yourselves and allow the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truths.
Thank you very much!!! Just as the bible tells us to do!!! People are so quick to follow some bs and then point the finger! This dead mother is as responsible as the person that pulled the trigger!!! It’s probably wrong but I am so leary of people it’s scary! With all the things that go on these days I just cannot allow myself to trust, especially a man. LORD HELP US!!!!
Excuse the error the mother shot someone else!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!
Yes Dawn,
These people don’t realize that when they try to play God, that too is a sin. They denounce when radical Muslims do suicide bombs because of their religious beliefs, but they have no problem when these insecure men go around killing or hurting other men and women because of their sexuality. Religion and Spirituality are two different things, just as KennyCraddock pointed out. We have to try our best to take control of our personal feelings and focus on those feelings for our OWN LIVES and leave those of others alone. When it comes to doing something to help your fellow man, most people don’t want any parts, for example look at how many people walk away from a homeless person on the streets asking for money. Yet, we want to be involved with a person’s life with respect to whether or not they are gay or straight. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. And like I always say, if you feel someone is sinning based on your take on religion, let the Lord take care of that. You are not qualified.
Amen Amen!
THIS is one of the reasons I avoid followers of the religious reich as much as possible
THANK GOD THIS DEVIL WILL BE IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. HOPEFULLY SOME PRISONERS WILL GET A HOLD OF HIM AND BEAT THE LIVING s**t OUT OF HIM EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. BUT IT’S JUST AMAZING HOW PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW FOOLS LIKE THIS. HIS WORDS CAN’T REACH GOD QUICKER THAN ANY ONE ELSE.
Im sorry to hear that this baby had to go through something like this God must have wanted him back at least he made it to heaven. I hate that people are putting this into the laps of Christians even though they where JEWS not Christians! We as Christians don’t hate Gays we just don’t agree with what they claim to be.
God doesn’t hate them either and this shouldn’t be the focus of this article because this is just a deranged man with mental issues, because no one can tell me that a 5yr old knows what their sexuality is they dont even know what it means, thats the problem people putting labels on kids and not letting them figure out that just because he crosses his legs doesnt make him homosexual. Get real people!
First of all Christianity is a Jewish religion. Jesus Christ, was a Jewish Rabbi, so that his followers are following a Jewish religion. Also, why would your mystical god, recall a child back to his mystical kingdom? Please listen idiots. There has been hundreds of beliefs, hundreds of thousands years before any such people as Christians, and Jews. Where do you think these people went when they died? Also, if your god was a god, why does he allow stuff to happen like this? Why does he allow millions of people to starve to death, and to die of thirst? Santa Clause is in a book, written by similar men who wrote the bible, but modern man, and most children don’t believe he really exist. If you believe in god so much, why do you lock your doors? Why do you go to the doctor? Why if you saw someone approaching you with a gun in their hands, do you run away? Instead of doing any of the aforementioned things, why don’t you just pray?
It is impossible to rid society of spiritual values. It separates humans from animals. The fact we acknowledge the concept of God defines humans as The spiritual life of
nature. You will lose this battle or you will destroy humanity. If you kill all spiritual
people. Only murderers will be left. It will be the end. I am sorry but you are delusional and egomaniacal if you think you can destroy God.
I’m not spiritual, and I’m certainly not a killer. But, this man claimed to be spiritual, so if humanity had all people like him, there would be only murderers. Humans, have existed hundreds of thousands of years without the existence of religion, contrary to your assertion. Religion, especially Christianity, is fairly new. Hundreds of millions of people, has lived and died without the existence of religion in their society. China, has over a billion people, and the majority, live and die every day, without some Jesus, in their lives. So are all these people, going to your other mystical kingdom, h**l?
Buddhism, Taoism, and others in China. Belief in a higher power is practically universal
There is a difference between SPIRITUAL VALUES AND RELIGOUS VALUES just as there is a difference between spirituality and religion. Most attempt to integrate the two and thus believe they are one in the same but they are not. Spirituality is more of an inborn relative acknowledgment of a person’s experience with life and others on the planet. Its about valuing our relationship with life events, people and species that show our connection. Its also about seeking communion with the divine or infinite energy or mind some call God or Ominpresent intelligence. While religion can be a subset of spirituality, religion is more of a human organized practice and attempt to gain spirituality that is based upon theoretical assumptions, beliefs, observations and rigid practices to explain man’s purpose and value on this planet. It is not absolute nor applicaple to every person to practice to gain fulfillment. The conflict comes between the two when people take religion as being LITERAL and SPIRITUALITY as being personal and more relative.
Gays have not won any debate so far on any site I have seen. What makes you persist? Is it illness or evil? We are trying to save your lives. Can’t you see that? If not why? Retardation? Stubborness or mental illness? Don’t you see that it is only love that makes a parent teach a child right from wrong. And yes your behavior is childish.
Winning or loosing is relative, especialy when it is being measured by prejudiced and biased individuals- who are also lacking the education, personal insight and scientific understanding to validate unfounded views of associating homosexuality as a mental illness.
I am dearly saddened by this. There needs to be more dialogue about homosexuality, with a means to deter hate and anger. I remember the day I found out that I had two family members who were gay and lesbian. I cried so hard on the inside that every time tears surfaced,I swallowed them, but you know what I did, I realized that what the lady- Mother of the house in “A Raisin in the Sun” said was real, she said “The time to really love someone is when they are going through.” That has stuck with me since then and has never gone away. I only talked to one cousin about his choice and let him know that I love him. I told him, “You know I’m a Judeo Christian and the Bible speaks of this lifestyle as sin, and describes the fall of man and this was part of it, and I don’t agree with your lifestyle, BUT the Bible also says to love one another as he- Christ has loved you, me and everybody else, to lean not on thy own understanding- but to seek him, G*d will direct your path and everyone else’s, the greatest command is love, that is the only thing he wants you to do, love in words, love in action, and love in more than just your heart, your soul is where you need to love people from. You don’t have to agree with someone’s lifestyle, but you cant let their choice, make you hate or dislike someone. Because hate and dislike is NOT Christ like, and it’s not one of the Tenants of Judeo Christian-hood. The Tenants are LOVE, Justice, Mercy, Forgiveness, and Truth. It is one thing to be religious, but it is quite something else to be spiritual. I am spiritual and not religious. I am Roman Catholic with a Baptist and Pentecostal background, but I don’t follow everything in the Church, because not all is right. I attempt to preserve some of the Jewish Heritage in practice, I study some of the practices of brother Malcolm, I believe in the peace of the ancient Buddhists and how they observe peace and I believe in solemn silent dignified worship of Quakerism. I am connected to a denomination, but mentally and spiritually non-denominational. Now, there are things I do to protect this spirituality. I don’t discard Christ like the Muslims do, and I don’t tap into the mysticism’s of other religious practices because I would be violating the 10 commandments. Being religious, ties you to only one denomination, and a heart to look down on other denominations and make a big deal out of a name of a denomination, when G*d does not see name, age, color, s*x (Gender), or church. I do not subscribe to being religious. I subscribe to spiritual living and spiritual living excludes bigotry hatefulness. I think people really need to think for theirselves and stop being hateful. If we learn this, then this headline will cease to exist. I am so saddened that this baby was murdered. So what if he was phasing into a lifestyle not liked. There are ways to talk to a child and see where their just developing little minds are. There are some serious questions that should have been asked, which is quiet evident to me, because children do not know things unless they are taught them by learned behavior. Had they ever stopped to see if the baby was being sexually abused by someone? Ask questions and do the right thing, NOT impose and hate and execute a deserving soul. The person deprived this baby, based on satanic beliefs.
Nedra, its apparent that you mean well and appear to be genuine but baby gurl you still got whole lot of learning and studying to do with regard to how to interpret the bible, aswell as view homosexuality or gay people in general. Homosexuality or being gay, is more so an orientation. Being a Christian is a lifestyle and way of life. One is not born Christian, they are raised and taught to be that way. Interesting point I raise, because so many Christians attempt to present homosexuality and gay people in the same light. Your crying or mourning over your cousin or gay family members was more about your experiencing the shame and guilt YOU WERE FEELING not because they were living in sin, but because you chosed to believe that nonsense that they were SINFUL. And sin, ultimately means to “miss the mark”. Religious interpretations can not speak for everyone. Its beliefs based upon the bible are theoretical, allegorical, metaphorical and based upon an abstract diety man has chosen to call GOD. You can only live and experience it for yourself. STOP PROJECTING YOUR “COGNITIVE DISTORTIONS” off on people. That is ultimately what Jesus was saying in admonishing us to NOT JUDGE. Human life is an illusion and also a paradox- there is truth in opposites. Nothing is ultimately real, and that is why all and everything is forgivable and worthy of unconditional love. There are no mistakes dear, Just lessons. And everyones lessons are not neccessarily meant to be the same.
Let me point out something. There are many people running around, waving Bibles and expressing their stupid opinions. I say “waving Bibles” because, in most cases, these same people don’t read the Bible, and do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, although they claim to have “accepted Him as their personal Lord and Savior.” They don’t follow the Ten Commandments, or even know them. They usually judge others, when the Bible says, “Judge not that ye be not judged….” Some scholars have searched the Bible to find what Jesus says about homosexuality. He does not address the issue. As for taking the Bible literally, every widow should marry her late husband’s brother, no matter that he might already be married or that there is no brother. Times have changed, people. The sooner we recognize that, the better we all will be.
What you just demonstrated Ruby, was religious living, instead of spiritual living. Also, to point something out to you, the old testament is a history of where we were at one point, not how we are to live as of right now. The new testament is what we are supposed to live by, but we are supposed to make the old testament relevant to how we are supposed to treat each other, and how we are to observe the teachings of the Bible. That is why we don’t observe the Bible in the manner in which you put it, but you have a point nonetheless.
However, the Bible wavers you spoke of, would not understand anything you or I just stated and they would negate both of our opinions. I think that people don’t want to see what you or I said, because they forget to see through human and spiritual eyes, rather than seeing through a picture perfect view of judgmental eyes. And you are definitely right that we are not supposed to judge one another, but the Bible does say “Call and see things by the fruits of their labor.” People need to know the difference between that and judging. But then again, the Bible also states, lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways, seek and acknowledge him, and he will direct you in the ways to go.
Sorry Nedera you are wrong about the NT. You have proven that you cannot abide by the laws of the OT. So where do you get off by saying that “WE” have to live by the contradictary laws f the NT!
Regina, I did not say anything was contradictory. You are the one that is wrong. Plus, after viewing a comment you made on another post, I have to tell you that I cannot converse with you. I do keep my distance from foolishness. So refrain from responding, as I do not wish to converse with you in particular, because of your un-rudely commentary behavior and the way that you just wrote in tone to me here. Your cooperation is appreciated. Thank you
NO Nedrea, you were being a bit contradictory and Misinformed, because while you spoke eloquently with regard to our need to love others unconditionally and not judge, you also intimated inaccurate judgments about not only gay people– implying it as a lifestyle that possibly is learned at a young age- through s****l abuse. When you love, trully love, you are not misinformed. When you judge you are misinformed. THerefore you can not LOVE PEOPLE IN THE SPIRIT OF MISINFORMATION. Nedrea, you may need to relinquish one or the other- Love vs Misinformation. People can not take your words or intentions as a “loving christian” when you really have no understanding of what is going on with them. Your understanding of people or sexuality seems to be strictly extracted from biblical scriptures and that s**t is grossly inaccurate, being that it is based upon antiquated cultural traditions and beliefs some 2500 years ago. Maybe you need to speak more deeply with some gay people or your gay relatives, as well as read some books on sexuality, gay orientation and critical examination of biblical literature.
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no mention of the race of the perp. i wonder why?????????
They were referred to as the “black Hebrews” so what do you think his race was? Even though it really doesn’t matter. Evil is colorblind.
The world is a good place, but we’ve corrupted so. We don’t realize it anymore, because of our own selfish; self-centered and judgemental ways. Torure; murder; rape; stealing; blind-justice; corruption; greed; the list goes on and on. And as “corny” as it may sound, we really don’t have to do any of these things; we simply want to. So distastful to God. Bless this baby and all babies all over this world, we’re not taking care of them the way that we should. Hear us Oh My GOD!!!
Come on I believe in God I have been I the church since before I was born. I’m 29 years old. This has nothing to do with god so blaming him. This man was a sick f**k and the women he lived with were to scared to get help needs to be dealt with just as cruel and heartless as he was to them
I think its a shame that the young boy and his mother were killed. In Hosea it says my people will perish from lack of knowledge. Being a Christian I know that I have a responsibility to read, study, pray, and test the spirits for myself. The devil is showing himself everyday. The more we learn about God and his word, we will be better equipped to recognize things that don’t line up with His will. I hope and pray that the other women in the house come to known Jesus, who is my Lord and Saviour. We have got to stay in prayer one for another,
Calling himself Moses? WTF!! Sick f****r I hope he dies and goes straight to h**l for murdering that baby and woman. These folks sure know how to brain wash the gullible,and it’s so sad!
What is so wrong with women that they would put their lives and the lives of their children in danger?
“One learn man is harder on the Devil than a 1000 ignorant wishopers”. “The Devil made him do it”.
Who do he think he is GOD judging ppl….He killed because of a thought….really. Nobody killed him for being STUPID!!!!!! GOD HAVE MERCY ON HIS SOUL.
What I find more shocking is how other women helped him kill her and the mother of this baby, shot and killed one of the women. Smh…..
OMG…..Everyone of those people should be locked up and the keys thrown away. This is when the death penality should come in to play.
This is d**n shame he ought to be killed just how he killed!!!!!!!!!!
Man oh man, what a multitude of delusions this story generates. Folks on here saying this deranged murderer was the devil. Also how his faith system (religion) is wacky or an insane interpretation of some holy books. Of all the thousands of religions, faiths, deities god concepts or any other objects of worship, you people have no problem not believing any of those are real. People who are atheists just go one step further than you, they just don’t believe in yours. The only reason that Christianity and Islam are the dominant religions of the world, is because their followers have had the greatest killing capacity. Along with conquering lands, committing countless acts of genocide, rape, infanticide, torture, colonialism, slavery, they demaded by threat of death, conversion to their religion. The old testament is nothing but a bunch of copies of copies, that only go back as far as the third century. If only the emperor Constantine would have been killed at the battle of the Mill Bond Creek, many of you today would probably be operating with a sound reasoned based brain. But after the Romans allowed Christianity to spread, it gained a foot hold. At first The Romans killed thousands of Christians for worshipping this Jesus character, rather than the emperor. After having difficulty stomping it out, they decided to join and co-op the concept, to show their enemies that the Roman empire was united by a belief and military strength. After that, violent superstitious European man ran with it. Then a whole series of events and wars sustained the god concept. The numerous holy wars, several inquisitions, in witch hunting for non believers to burn and torture, became like a spectators sport. We’re talking about a level of intimidation, that surpassed Hitler’s third Reich. The catholic church had almost supreme power when it functioned in conjunction with the monarchs of those times. The pope made an Edict or papal bull, declaring that any christian European country that discovered non-Christian lands, could just claim that country and all of its inhabitants. (Doctrine of Discovery) (Doctrine of Dispossession) Does that ring any bells (Africa, South America, Australia, Mexico, North America. I could go on but I think you get my point.
Oh yeah, to all of you Muslims brothers who reject European christianity, Islam had an even longer period of atrocities, slavery and dominion over Africa. Mohammed was basically a warrior, who raped, robbed, enslaved and pillaged Africa and the middle East. A whole book could be written about Islamic. atrocities.
I just shake my head at times when I think about my lost and conflicted people. Steeped in superstitious fantasy choosing willful ignorance over the colossal amount of evidence that science has provided. But somehow, bronze age, bedoin, illiterate, desert dwelling, goat hearders, were chosen to tell the story to the world. The funny thing is, for most of history, all of the ancestors of the people who gave you your holy books, didn’t even view Black people as human beings. Some still think and proclaim this in certain quarters.
It just goes to show what a thousand plus years of telling huge lies and forcing the belief in them can do. You really can’t believe that the people who killed and tortured literally tens of millions, would be above writting and falsifing words in a book. So don’t condemn this nutbag for his religious interpretations, popes, priest and other holy men have commanded and condoned far worse than this man. He’s just tapped into the same need to believe that Father Devine, rev Ike, Fred Price, T.D. Jakes, Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar and many more have found for the taking. They’re basically pulpit pimping players, who’ve got god game and no shame. I understand the history of how we got so bamboozled, but what I just can’t understand with all of the knowledge available today, is how we stay this way. So many of us are so gotten, that we have no idea of the degree that we’ve been got. The rest of the world is coming for Americas lunch and we want to claim as a fact, that a snake talked in a garden.
A free mind is a beautiful thing.
Ugh, NO! is all I can say to you. It appears that there is only one delusional long drawn comment, and it is to persuade people to believe in another way, that includes the thought process of one closed mind. You can’t seriously sit and tell people they are delusional, when it appears you are atheist and you want people to think the same way you do. I will say what no one else will say “Be careful of the seeds you plant, because while they are fruitless in one way, they can be fruitful in planting doubt to a soul that has yet to be saved. Keep the dis-beliefs to yourself.”
BRUFF…. your post was BRILLIANT and ACCURATE. Thank you for your post. Although, it will most likely be TOO MUCH for small minds to digest, nevertheless, its truth needed to be relayed and planted for anyone willing or courageous to research it for themselves. BRAVO!!!
It’s sad that children have to suffer but the Devil doesn’t care who he hurts. I hope that the man who did this gets the death penalty for anything less than that would not be justice.
Crazy is as Crazy does. This is crazy. Whom ever was a follower of this crazy person surely was / is crazy themselves also to have him testify against them ( other women ) is really crazy.
That crazy thing known as “RELIGION” strikes again. Wake up people. God may be real, but ALL relgions are brainwashing cults that serve as crutches for weak minded people who feel they are missing something in their lives or who are searching for absolution. Yes that includes your religion too. These things were created by greedy, power hungry, and/or insane men to get followers to give up their money, freedom, wives, children (for perverted religious leaders), or to kill for them.
It is all a dangerous sham.
Most people do not want to realize that the Bible is a history of people long ago. We learn from alot of history books and quote from them as well. However, the Bible seems to be interpreted/quoted to the extreme. We are changing our laws everyday and need tougher laws in some areas.
I have read all of your comments. And what an education I received from you all. Religion is man made. But lets get to the point, I believe that what a man does he should live by and If he rapes, he should be raped. If he kills, he should live through a thousand deaths. No matter what you believe, can you deal with your belief. Gay people are born that way, the same way you were born (streight) You did not know what your feelings were until nature called on you. No mother knows if she will have a gay child or not. Remember that a child is his father’s seed also? Or don’t men produce bad seeds. Is it always the woman’s egg that is spoiled? Why does woman have to always be the culpit? God made both. Does she have to bear the burden because men are too weak to help?
Jesus is Lord!!!…I dont have to argue that point because by my testimony of what i have seen Him do in my life is enough!!! God doesnt make mistakes…people do and if there in fact was no true and living God in this world then there would be no reason to allow people to be who they truly desire to be(freedom of choice) God gives us the map and we have the choice to follow that map or reject it. Even Lucifer knows who the true and living God is, why else does he roam around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour? My heart is saddened by this story…that little boys life meant nothing to this so called leader( funny, this is the only child that was NOT fathered by him so I wonder if the gay story was just that a story.) Most cult leaders eliminate anyone who threatens their dominance and power over the flock so maybe this little boy not being his natural child somehow infuriated this man and he killed him based on his own selfish pride. I am called to pray for the lost and I will pray that this man will have no peace until he repents of this sin and in prison he truly finds out the Jesus is the true and living God.
Hello Nedrea, I hope you’re having a good day. This is not a fake line for any effect, I really wish you well. It appears my my post from 6/13 rubbed you the wrong way. It wasn’t meant to insult but rather to engage. What I’d like you to know about me, (though you may not care to) is that I have a vested interest and concern for my people, “HUMANS”. But for the sake of this blog site, Black people. Personally,….I could give a d**n about people thinking like I do, I’d be happy just to know they were thinking. Our people are suffering from a void of scientific literacy. As far as that euphemism about what you don’t know, not hurting you. That has got to be the most ludicrous phrase in the english vernacular. I don’t want to have a blog posting conflict with you sister, I just want you to give you an angle on a perspective you may have never been challenged to consider. If you ever get to the Grand Canyon, the first visually awe inspiring thought will probably be,………WOW. What you will be beholding is the effects of millions of years of water erosion, on a planet that was already several billion years old. The six thousand year old earth story, as depicted in the bible, is so dead on arrival. I know it’s scary to question the values and what you’ve always thought to be confirmed realities. I really don’t want you or any other Christian on this blog post to take my word on anything I’ve stated. Do your own research to get to the bottom of the “Masterplan”, that’s been perpetrated upon us and many other peoples of the world. The truth is liberating and empowering and I hope you find it.
I love the way you debate and the dexterity of your mind. I know in another setting you and I could really have had some great conversations. My apology to the other posters, It wasn’t my intention to go all off topic and personal with Nedrea.
Some reference material sites: Topdocumentaryfilms.com “Who Wrote the BIBLE” and while there view some of the other outstanding videos dealing with religion.
Christians are not a mess; because calling yourself a Chrisitian makes you no more a Christian than calling yourself a car.
Jesus said, Take heed that no one deceives you
for many will come in my name, saying, I am the
Christ and will deceive many. Matthew 24:4,5
But you have to try the spirits, to see whether
they are of God or the enemy, for there are many
False Prophets now operating in the world today!
One reason that people are led astray and become
involved in these cults, is because they do not
have a relationship with God for themselves, and
don’t study the bible to discern truth from false-
hood. I am sure that this Mother believed in this
Devil con-man but once he captured her mind thru
the twisting of the scriptures she just couldn’t
she her way through. I feel so sorry for this
tragic, senseless crime may both they rest in peace!