Creflo Dollar Arrested for Punching, Choking His Daughter

Rev. Creflo Dollar, pastor of World Changers Church International, has been arrested for attacking his 15-year old daughter.  He was taken into custody and charged with simple battery and cruelty to children.

According to the police report, Dollar’s daughter called police after she claims that her father attacked her over whether or not she could attend a party.  The report says that Dollar choked the girl, threw her to the ground, punched her and hit her with a shoe.  The officer who went to the house claims that he saw a scratch on the girl’s neck near her throat.

Dollar says that he tried to restrain his daughter when she became “very disrespectful.”  He admitted that he spanked her and wrestled her to the floor, but said that it was because she hit him first.  The pastor was then taken to Fayette County Jail after being arrested.

 

440 Responses to Creflo Dollar Arrested for Punching, Choking His Daughter

  1. Creflo Dollar was right on! Children today have too much freedom and they are often disrespectful. The system is designed to make children misbehave, thsey know that all they have to do is call the police and claim that their parents abused them. What if Malia or Sasha became respectful to President Obama, how would he handle it?

    • Bad example. The Secret Service would probably have to shoot them!

      Parents these days seem to give their children anything that they want, when they need to be giving them more time and talking to them. Everyone is attached to some kind of smart phone or other electronic device and have lost all social skills.

      The President and First Lady limit their children’s time on the computer, watching TV, and using their phones. And, I’m sure that their schedules are way more busier than the average parent. Plus, they’ve got their grandmother to keep order in that house!

      It’s unfortunate that this happened to Creflo. He probably went too far trying to discipline his daughter, but who knows? We weren’t there.

      A friend of mine wouldn’t let her son go to a party in Atlantic city and the next day he beat her with a baseball bat and stabbed her over 30 times.

      • You have to deal with these kids from Day 1. It seems that it’s ok for our kids to beat the h**l out of us, but not for us to beat them. I wish my kids would had even thought about striking me….

        • When you raise them right, the thought never enters their minds.

          • It seems no matter how much you raise them “right” you can’t overlook the fact sin was in them from the beginning. The devil will enter in. It’s a tough road all the way down that journey. God’s grace will prevail and get you through.

          • This is a reply to ‘S’, I hope to God that you do not have children. Noone is born ‘bad’. Our spirit comes from God and that cannot be bad! Remember, children have seen God in spirit more recently than adults have. Think about that. “born bad” indeed!

          • That is not true, you can raise your child the right way however when your child is introduced to the world things can change.

          • I agree totally! I hate the statement: “Kids these days”. It is the Parents these days and how like you stated: “When you raise them right, the thought never enters their minds”.

          • Well mine was raise right, in church and taught the word of “GOD” from the age of two up. At 16 something happened to her and she forgot who she was and the word and slapped me. When I finished with her she came to herself! She has NEVER done that again and she is 36 now, VERY respectful and serves the lord!! (as well as my grandchildren)

          • I disagree dontbeafool.There are many cases out there where parents that had done ALL the right things in raising their children and some STILL become rebelious and disrepectful towards their parents.You have sometimes consider what kids are exposed to in this society everything from s*x,drugs,violence,enviroment in some rough neighborhoods,peer pressure,and sometimes you can spoil a child rotten and sometime they turnout to be no good.LOTS OF THOUGHTS enter the minds of kids while growing up,I know LOTS of bad thoughts entered my mind growing up and acted some of them out…LOL!I had good parents and they did a great job in raising me and I’m grateful to God that he blessed me with the parents I
            have.

          • Correct. Raise them in Bablyon like a Babylonian and that’s the way they will act. There is no ‘generation gap’ at home (TaNaheisi/Afrika).

          • Dontbeafool – What world are you living in, …”If you raise them right the thought never enters their minds.” I’ve been a child, have raised children and am now a grandmother, as well as have worked with youth for years. I certainly know that you are living in a fantasy world. I have successfully raised children with my husband and know that most children will challenge parental authority at some time or other – especially once they enter their teen years! While I certainly believe in all forms of disciple, I certain reserve the parental RIGHT to use corporal punishment on a wayward child(ren) especially when they are MINE if and when the need arises!

          • dontbeafool You’re right on the money, and you’re not even on the pulpit…
            Can we get an AMEN!

          • You are not in a position to say what is the “right way”for a child about wmon you know nothing(Iimagin). There is no universal receipe for rearing children. By knowledge and professional experience, children who have been “well trained” can become unruly. If this is the first time a complaint has been brought to the attention of the law–it would suggest tempers were flaring between them–the Pastor should have kept his cool– called the police on “Missy” and tell them to come and get her.

          • The Bible tells us that we are born into sin and shaped into iniquity. It also tells us that our heart is continually wicked, and it says that our young shall utterly fail. Some of the things that some people say really shows their ignorance. I wonder if some think that we should allow officer law to taze our kids into correction or allow them to do as they please with no consequence to their behavior. Maybe I should be arrested as well because I most definitely punish my kids. And that I am not ashamed of. I’m a caring parent not a friend to my child. TRAIN EM UP RIGHT. Some folks in this nation have been waiting on a brick to toss at Pastor Dollar and this is the brick that they choose to throw at him (being a caring father). I wonder what they would have did to Jesus when he threw those folks out of the temple. My bad I already know… They would have hung him.

          • Don’t Agree With A Fool… The blind can lead the blind!!!

          • Say that again!!! However, if it do enter, fear alone makes them think otherwise. We must properly raise our children @ birth.

          • So true. This is the result of poor parenting.

          • AMEN!!!!

          • bahati sobukwe

            You are absolutely right on that! “As a twig is bent so shall the tree grow!”

          • There is no magic formula or potion that can absolutely shape and mold a human being. At a point a person grows and begins to think with their own mind. Adam and Eve spoke to God everyday and had everything they wanted in the Garden of Eden they still sinned against Him. The devil was right there influencing them to sin. Many parents have no idea what their kids were involved with behind their backs. Granted, they may not have killed anyone or gone to jail, but a lot of kids have been very successful in hiding their sins from their strict parents.

            Some people who boast about how they raised their kids raised kids 25 years ago when things weren’t nearly as bad as they are today. God specifically told us about how bad things would be in the last days. The level of sin and corruption are at levels we have never seen. There’s a reason the Bible said that in the last days children people would be truce-breakers, without natural affection, DISOBEDIENT TO PARENTS.

            Parents are not the Creator; God gave everyone free will. Young people have their own responsibility to make good choices in life, and ultimately to choose between heaven or h**l just like everyone else. Parents cannot make that choice for them. Kids especially today, often choose to go the wrong way. Lax parents are not the only ones with h**l-bound children.

            I know godly parenting can go a long way. But children are not robots, and they have to make the right choices just as much as everyone else does. I have seen too often in my life that preachers’ children often are particularly rebellious. What was going through this young girl’s mind? Her father is a preacher, for goodness sake. No respect.

          • Shirley Ann Rawls

            What planet are you on?

          • Just because you bring them up right, does not mean that they will not try you. Those of you who have children and have not had issues with them, praise Jesus, and pray for the rest of us who are having issuses and have had issues with our kids!

        • I know a parent that told her teen aged son that if he repeated a certain behavior that she would physically punish him. He said that if she even touched him that he would call the police and she would be hauled in front of the judge. He repeated the behavior and she whipped him and he called the police. She was arrested and hauled in front of the judge. She pleaded guilty. She gave a statement and followed up with ” If you will not let parents physically discipline their children then the police will confront them in the streets. If I cannot knock him in the head now then the police will later.” The judge threw the case out and dismissed the charges.

          • I would have put him out when I got released

          • I had trouble with one of my daughter’s once, actually I punched the guy she was with and got “hauled into court”. I told the judge that I was trying to raise my children in a way that when he walked out of the court building at night that he would not have to worry about one of mine putting a gun to the back of his head….silence, case dismissed!!!!!

          • I agree as parents we try so hard to give our kids what they need but it seems now a days this only hinders them because they expect thems they want all the time and not what need.. I didnt geet that from my parents which instilled in me a very strong work ethic this generation seems as though they want everything handed to them.. And the system is a joke allow parents to raise our kids as the other person indicated before the law have to…

          • Samdromeda, I totally agree with what you have written. These kids do not understandn that we care for them, but respect is due those who love and take care of them. The Court system could care less about them. They want them to get caught up in the Just Us System.

          • Dontbeafool…you are a fool. The bible says only a fool dismiss wisdom. Maybe if you were trained right you wouldn’t make such foolish comments. Every parent wants the best for their children. You would be a liar to say you have. Never done some things that you were not proud or nor would your parent be proud of. Secondly King & GCole you all need to read the word. We are ALL born into sin. That’s why when we accept Christ we are born again. We are born into a sinful worl. That’s why the bible tells us to kill our flesh daily. The only perfect person is Jesus. Lastly I wish my child would raise her hand at me. I would tear her but up. Because if I allow her to beat on me then she think she could beat on you.

          • After all is said & done, this could be his Blessing as my 11 year old stated “Prisons Need Preachers too”

          • Karen F…
            Now that was too funny and too real!!! Out of the mouth of babes.. Give that baby a blue ribbon lol

        • Denise Williams

          Will I fill that if we don’t discipline are childrend while they are young they will be out of control and be out here kicking someon else’s but then they will be saying we can’t control are kids.

      • OMG – say it ain’t so………………………..where’s that boy’s daddy?

      • I AM SO GLAD TO READ THESE COMMENTS I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT MY GREAT NEPHEW WHOSE DAD IS INCARCERATED AND HE AND HIS MOM TREAT HIM TO ANYTHING THAT HIS HEART DESIRES I MEAN ANYTHING IT WAS MY BIRTHDAY SO I ALWAYS JOKE WITH HIM IN A VERY PLAFUL SENSE AND HE I JUST NOYICED IS VERY SENSATIVE hmmmmmmm, OH WELL I WENTTO GO AND BRING HIM TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE A FRIEND OF MINES AND HER DAUGHTER MADE A BIRTHDAY DINNER FOR ME SO WE WENT TO THE STORE BROUGHT ICE CRAM FOR THE CAKE AND SOME PUNCH WHEN WE RETURNED MY FRIEND WAS MAKING THE PUNCH NEEDLESS TO SAY THIS IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN WAS MY DAY ,WELL WHEN SHE ASKED ME WHAT I WANTED TO TASTE FIRST I SAID THE SOUP WOULD BE FINE EVERYTHING ELSE WAS HEATING UP SO SHE ASKED HER GRAND DAUGHTER IF SHE WANTED SOME AND SHE SAID NO AND ASKED MY GREAT NEPHEW HE SAID YES I SAID NO I AM GOINGTO MAKE YOU SOME BACON AND EGGS JUST KIDDING MIND YOU HE DID GET THE SOUP AND HE DID NOT SEEM UPSET LOW AND F—-ING BEHOLD I LOOK ON FACE BOOK LATER THAT EVENING AND HIS MOTHER MY FAVORITE NEICE IS BLASTING ME BECAUSE I DENIED HIM FOOD WOW I WAS TRULY p****d AND SHE KNOWS HOW I AM WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR HIM OR HER AND HER DAUGHTER INSTEAD OF HER SAYING YOU KNOW YOUR AUNT WAS JUST PLAYING WITH YOU SHE DIDNT SAY THAT BECAUSE SHE TAKES WHATEVER HE SAYS AND DOES NOT ASK THE OTHER PERSON THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE SO I KNOW HOW SHE IS AND IF SHE KNOWS LIKE WE KNOW SHE IS SETTING HIM UP IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE HE IS EXTREMELY SENSATIVE IF EVERYTHING HE IS DOING NOW BY TELLING HIS MOMMIE THINGS I SEE A LITTLE SOMETHING COOKING MAYBE SHE DOESNT BUT I SURE DO …LIKE JUDGE MATHIS SAYS HIS MOTHER WOULD NOT TAKE WHAT HE SAID AS FACE VALUE SHE HAD TO FIND OUT FOR HERSELF PARENTS REAL PARENTS THE ONES THAT WILL BEND OVER BACKWARDS WOUND UP DOUBLEING OVER IN PAIN SAYING I KNOW MY SON DIDNT DO IT …SMH

      • And he is STILL living? She is a better mother than me

        • Shirley Ann Rawls

          Amen Elaine! Violence is never the answer! The adult should be the bigger person. Shame on you Creflo for putting your hands on your daughter…your arrest was appropriate. You need anger management counseling. anger

      • My kids never dared to get smart with me while they were growing up And today they still give me much respect and teach their children to respect their grandparents.
        My grandchildren show up for me and do not show out.

      • Oh my God. That’s sad. The person that was stabbed. I don’t think parents should take it that far. Punching and slapping a child is wrong especially him being a man which makes him that much stronger. It doesn’t matter what his status is. For some of you who say he is right shouldn’t judge his daughter or him because of who he is or his title. A man shouldn’t hit a woman.Period. You shouldn’t let anger control you. That’s a sin. There’s always a better way to handle that kind of situation and I’m pretty sure he could have restrained a 15 year old little girl.

      • Do the thang Pastor, by the way, she would’nt be in my house when I got out of jail and she would be leaving naked because what she has I’m quite sure he bought it. Now if the police want to come back again for this, bring her some clothes with you cause she aint going out of here in mine but believe me, she sure would be going if she aint gone by the time I got back.

    • He wouldn’t choke Malia or Sasha that’s for sure.

      Creflo, sadly enough, should have let her go. If anything happened to her, I’d have laughed in her face and told her “I told you not to go.”

      Or if she got arrested and called me, I’d have hung up on her and let her cool her heels in juvvy for a couple of weeks, so she’d have some time to herself think.

      • I heard that Reenegade..
        I would have let her a*s go to the d**n party, and nothing would have probably happened. What happened to train up a child and they won’t depart from the proper teachings. Children come under attack by the evil one just like adults do, and nobody whooped Creflo’s a*s when he makes bad decisions, and his big-mouth a*s has made a lot of them since the Eddie Long scandle…
        After you’ve done all the talking til your blue in the face, and you’ve brought up your child in the ways of God, somewhere in the middle we gotta start trusting God to fix our children, practise what we preach…
        Preachers kidds all seem to have it the hardest anyway, because our parents seem to be more worried about how we are going to make them look in the public eye, forgetting that we are also as human and as falable as everybody else.
        *I am 52 yrs old, a preachers kid who got pregnant at the age of 16yrs old, and my preacher father and missionary mother beat the holy shyt out of me like you’d beat a jigga on the streets while I was 4 mos. pregnant, all “in the name of COGIC (Church of God In Christ) status in the community / being embarrassed… I didn’t deserve that beating, and I got an abortion afterwards.
        In the name of COGIC Religion / aka:Occult / aka: 4 Wall Religious witchcraft, me and my siblings lives were taken away from us from birth til we left our parents home and moved out on our own… Due to that espect in our lives we are all late bloomers, but God has blessed us still.
        **I will say this:(None of us attend any 4 wall church at all), but we are growing in relationships with God on a daily basis and the 4 wall churches have absolutely nothing to do with our spiritual growth because we became free when we left the 4 wall religious church…AMEN
        P.S. If Creflo Dollar did do those things to his daughter then his mouthy controlling religeous a*s needs to be put behind bars and be demanded to attend: Anger-Management and Parenting classes, and he needs to step his a*s out of the pulpit too.
        **Remember it was Creflo Dollar who told Eddie Longs members that they couldn’t come to his church, but to go back and sit under that d**n pedafil stating that what Eddie Long did was only JUST a bad car accident…. wow!!! Yeah! right… Then he said all non-tith payers need to be put before a firing squad and shot to death while he continuely lives in his million dollar mansion, drives his Bently, and fly’s around in his private billion dollar Jet and taking money from the mouths of babes, now SAY WHAT…..!!!!! Give me a break people!!!

        • you sure you dont have underlying anger issues

          • Underlying my behind, Redbone has put it out there & if this is helping her 2 heal then preach on my sister. We feel your pain. I am personally praying for you!!

          • Thank you Karen…
            No anger issues, and no underlying issues anymore my sister, this is a new day for me. I just believe in telling it like it really is without all that d**n sugarcoating BS black folks like to play, swim and roll-around in, and its my testimony to tell anyway, and how I see fit to tell it.
            *Now for all you who replied to my blog with no spiritual discernment at all I have written a book about (religion in our black community), waiting to have it published, and I did not sugarcoat the truth in my book either, matter of fact its (RAW TO THE BONE/ a wake-up call to God’s people)…
            * My mother got pregnant at 15yrs old and had her first child at 16yrs old with my father, and they were not married at the time, (NO BODY BEAT THEM)… When I got pregnant at 16yrs old I was not out at night at some party, neither was I out somewhere being Miss Hot Mama Fassy Pants, and I sho wasn’t ditching school either. I was with a young man I truely liked from the heart, so don’t get it twisted my spiritually clueless minded people, use some of your discernment if you have any, everybody’s story is not the same…wink!

          • I say that god has control of everything,and with that being said,people need to stop putting their mouth on other people. Especially if you grew up in a church then you should know that YOUR MOUTH IS A DEADLY WEAPON. God says that the tongue is sharp as a sword. So dont be the one to say anything let god deal with that situation and that man. We all are gods children,even those that fall short,we have to pray for them and hope that god can fix the problem in a rebellious,disrespectful, teenager. My prayers go out to you Mr. creflo dollar god be with you.

        • I agree even though he is a minister you never know what goes on behind closed doors.He is probably one of those parents that says “do like I say,not like I do”.

        • You ramble like a CRAZY Person! He should have put his foot in her a*s! Why at 15 years of age she is wanting to go to a party @ 1oclock? RIGHT ONH MR. DOLLAR!

          • Hat’s off to Makeda…well said!!

          • Makeda…
            You sound so d**n fricken rediculous it ain’t even funny!!! You use to be 15yrs old, how did your a*s act? Matter of fact all of us forget we use to be 15yrs old too. Everybody please crawl from under your d**n so save holier then thou sanctified religious rocks, cause only snakes live under rocks.
            Our actions are the reasons our youth don’t communicate with us anymore, and I don’t blame them one bit. Jesus said suffer the little children to come unto me…

          • thats right makeda,he should have told her no and then when she gets rude as h**l call the police on her. ha ha ha i bet she would have not did any of that stuff she done.

          • thanks for putting it out there Makeda!:)

        • Hey Redbone,you sound so angry toward religion and Preachers.. You may have a right to feel this way but sooner or later we have to start working on our Healing.. Do you Love your Father? Do you love your Mother? are you a parent now? I just want to ask that.. but I think I know what it is your going through,.. life ain’t never easy no matter how you were raised,. because you still have to Live it for yourself. I feel you in this thing but you know the truth deep down inside; Brother Creflo was right to try restrain his own daughter from going out at night to a party at fifteen yrs old,.she could have gone and gotten pregnant that night?! and you know you had no buiness out getting pregnant yourself at sixteen.. who was you going to take care of that baby? your Father or were you supporting yourself? I’m just throwing this out there… it is a Fathers job to stand in the way of danger for his kids sake and Brother Creflo did just that; he could have thought of his big Church and what people are going to say about him and stop sending their donations but he did not put his Church and his image first; no he chose to stand in between danger and his child even if it cost him his image and his Church. now don’t get me wrong I fellowship at home. I don’t always go to the 4-walls but I am a Christian and I have a obligation to see beyond my own feeling; say what is truth; and right now the brother made an unselfish sacrifice in choosing to be a Father rather then a mega Preacher. just think about this for a moment. Luv NK lionstruth@yahoo.com

          • The Highest High

            Neilden, that was awesome!

          • Neilden…
            Go to http://www.reportcogicsexabuse.com then come back and start all over again… Me and my siblings also lived in a home of domestic violence too.
            *No there was no s****l abuse, but any type of abuse is not good, and all children carry childhood trauma into their adult lives.
            Only God can heal a deeply wounded soul, but before we can even allow our God to bring healing into our lives we all walk in some types of self destruction, rather we do it to ourselves or we inflict it on someone else.
            ***AGAIN: Creflo is wrong if he did those things to his daughter. He needs a wakeup call anyway to go higher in his relationship with God, and thats if he even has one to began with…wink!!! Can’t go higher without no fire…

        • Too bad you were treated like that by your parents, but thank God that you have with will to stay afloat and keep all that mess under your feet and out of your heart. I agree with you that Mr. Dollar should not do anything to anyone that he does not want done to himself. It is one thing to discipline and another to abuse. No female should be hit, choked, or thrown to the floor by a male, especially her religious father. He is beside himself and should be punished religiously, maybe even have his daughter be allowed to choke him and throw him to the ground. She has to respect her father though because God said so. Hopefully God will provide diligence.

        • Girl you said a mouth full. I have a friend who is a PK, she was forced to abort a baby @ age 15, I do believe. (her momma saving face) She also was in the COGIC religion.

          Regarding Creflo, I knew it was a matter of time. Thank God he didn’t use that gun he and his wife used practicing at the shooting range.

          However, in today’s society I understand not wanting your child to attend a party, there are so many bad influences. I daughter hitting her father, she may have already treaded the waters, (kissing, s*x, etc..)When a young girl start smelling herself, as my grandmother used to say,….

        • Interesting. If something unsavory happened to this 15 year old who was allowed to wander through the world that is called child abuse and parents are subjected to the dictates of the state. Parents in America are not free agents, able to act in what they see as the best.

        • You sound angry because you wanted to do whatever you wanted without accountability and after all these years you still haven’t learned. You are still playing the victim role. I’m So sick of hearing the Preacher’s kid excuses… You all have it better than everyone else in the church and complain the most…

          EVERY Child raised by God fearing parents would get heat if they acted out when they were young, PK’s don’t have a monopoly on the Axx whopping the child will get… Stop your crying and reflect on how many times you got the big piece of chicken and everyone else got wings…

          • Ferdnane The Bull… you just like listening to yourself talk. I never said PK’s were better then anybody else, but our parents do take crazy religous BS to a whole other level. If your not a PK then your d**n clueless anyway… You can’t articulate about anything you haven’t walked through, so put up or shut it down. Talk what you know is factual, because thats what I do 24-7…wink!

          • Redbone read carefully … I didn’t say PK’s either are or think they are better than anyone else. I said they have it better than anyone else in the church…They have all the privileges and complain the most. If your particular family was jacked up I feel for you, but for the most part PK’s have got it made in the church… Try being a child of a devoted Christians with all the same expectations of a PK without the privilege… Stop your whining… I knew you had issues when you called yourself “Redbone” I’m very fair myself but I don’t hold it as a badge of honor to be spread around in cyber space… Issues Issues Issues….

          • Kiss my azz you dirty ole black BULL… now that’s the real redbone coming at yo black-a*s.

        • Well if she attacked him, then yes he should knock her the “F” out no child should get up in their parents face and think it’s ok. I would gladly go to jail because i know I would have seriously hurt ht “B” my child hit me and get up in my face OH! it’s on……….

      • YO PEOPLE LAWD

        INDEED RENEGADE. I SO AGREE. HE HAD CHOICES, AND PART OF RAISING YOUR CHILD RIGHT IS GIVING THE LESSON OR BOUNDARY TO FOLLOW IN YOUR HOME AND IF THEY BREAK IT, ALLOW THEM TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE– MEANING WHEN SHE GOT HOME, THE DOOR WOULD BE LOCKED. I WOULD ASK HER a*s FOR RENT MONEY, CHANGED THE GAME WHERE SHE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF HERSELF, BUY HER OWN FOOD, ACT JUST LIKE A GROWN PERSON. THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF WAYS. WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IS HIS DAUGHTER SAID SOMETHING TO HIM THAT WAS TRUE THAT HIS CHURCH MEMBERS DONT KNOW ABOUT AND IT CRACKED HIS EGO BIG TIME THAT HE LOST IT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GURL JUST STR8 OUT ATTACKED A MAN— HER OWN DAD UNLESS HE ALSO DID SOMETHING THAT FOSTERED SOME DEEP RESENTMENT WITHIN HER. PEOPLE WAKE UP, NOT GOING TO A PARTY DOES NOT TYPICALLY RESULT IN THIS TYPE OF DRAMA. GEEESH CHRISTIANS CAN BE SOME DOGGONE DUMB AND GULLIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR MINISTERS. smh

        • YO pEOPLE lAWD, YOU’RE RIGHT ON WITH YOUR COMMENTS. tHIS GIRL WANTS TO GO AGAINST HER FATHERS’wishes, let her go nd get whatever experiences life has for her–as well as the lessons you described that you have implimented. When the Prodigal Son (found in the
          bible, Luke 15,) left his father -obviuously against the fathers’ wishes, the wise father never said a word in protest. He gave the young boy what he asked for and got out of God’s way. The father knew that the boy needed his own experiences and the lesson that God had to give him. After going out and living it up (at the same party that Dollar’s daughter wanted to go to)he found himself eventually all alone in a strange land and around strange people who, after he’d gotten broke, kicked him to the curb. He finally, after fighting the pigs for their food,realized (a spiritual awakening) that he’d made a great mistake. The daughter would have eventually come home like the lost son and with a whole lot more wisdom then he/she left with.

          • YO PEOPLE LAWD

            NOWLIN… good example and summation. It reminds me of my father and how he raised me. BINGO!!

        • Amen! Amen! Amen!…. well said! Thank you, only God knows what went down in that household…

      • Let her go??? HE’S the parent, and he said no!! She had poor grades, and the answer is no!! She couldn’t go for WHATEVER the reason and the answer is NO!!

        By the way, your scenario as to what might’ve happened is ridiculous. What if she got raped, as is what happens to MANY girls today? What if she did drugs or drank to much and ended up in the hospital, as is what happened to an acquaintance of mine’s son, who was VERY close to death bec of alcohol poisoning??? What if she was killed?? What if NOTHING happened and all the child learned that night is that she doesn’t have to do what her parents tell her to do??
        Please, people, parents are here to lead, guide, and protect their children while they are raising them.

        Who’s the parent and who’s the child? I will not stand there and give in to my child when they’re is trying to tell ME what to do.

    • Are you serious? Abuse is not cool. I have teenage nieces and nephews and I know teens are hard to handle – adult hormones, think they know all, don’t want to listen but they are beyond physical punishment and it doesn’t work. Usually when you see stuff like this is because the kid was spoiled from day one and never learned respect for the parent at an early age. Also, no direction. Teenagers should not be hanging around doing nothing like they are still in early childhood. A job, an internship, some clubs, school activities with an eye toward what they’re going to do when they are grown is badly needed. As they say, idle hands are the devil’s playground. I know.

    • Creflo saved her life by spanking her and not allowing her to disrespect him as her father when she hit him. A child is to honor their father and mother so that their days will be long. Obviously if a child does NOt honor their parents, their days on this earth will NOT be long! If Creflo doesn’t chastise her when she is wrong, the police will and she could end up in jail or worse!

      • Emma u are so right!

      • Ester B. Williams

        I agree, Mr. Dollor took the right step in trying to spank his daughter. Respect of persons and the Law begain at home and not in arrest or outside enforcement.

        • Who owns our children? Is it their parents or is it the government? Our government would put them in foster care and dump them in the streets when they turn 18. There is a statement… The hireling does not care for the sheep because he is a hireling. In other words he is in it for the money. Our government throws money at the problem and establishes rules, guidelines and public brainwashing to force everyone to abide by the imposed and alleged solution. “You will be controlled because we will care for you.” A quote from Norman the android from Star Trek. And when we are seen as being no longer needed “Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.” In time of famine
          “Soiulent Green is people.” We now have PINK Slime.The mindset in all governments seems to be “Humans are expendable.” The only exception is when an agenda for conquest is in play. Like in all the treaties with Native Americans and the democratization of other countries.

          • THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS THE TRUTH!!!!!!
            SOYLENT GREEN!! I’VE NEVER FORGOTTEN THAT!

            That about Logan’s Run?? Everyone over 30 was expendable as well.

      • My children days would be short because I’ll killem

      • YO PEOPLE LAWD

        EMMETT… YOU WERE NOT THERE TO CLAIM THAT HE SAVED HER LIFE. WILL THE MAN THAT HIS DAUGHTER POSSIBLY MARRIES LATER IN LIFE BE SAVING HER LIFE WHEN THE MAN BEATS CLEFLOS DAUGHTER TO THE GROUND AND CHOKES HER ASWELL? CLEFLO LOST HIS COOL. HE MADE AN ERROR IN JUDGMENT AND IS FACING THE CONSEQUENCES NOW. HUMILITY IS DIVINE AND SOMETIMES HARD FOR THOSE ARROGANT BIBLE PLAYERS. PARENTS NEED TO ALSO HONOR THEIR CHILDREN WITH ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF RAISING THEM OTHER THAN HITTING THEM AND BEATING THEM DOWN TO THE GROUND. FOR A MAN, THAT WAS SOME PUNK s**t!! HE IS LUCKY ONE OF THOSE PRISIONERS DID NOT BEAT HIS b**t WITH A SHOE DOWN TO THE GROUND. I SUPPOSE HE WILL BLAME IT ALL ON THE DEVIL AND HIS DAUGHTER AND THE CHURCH WILL BE BETTER.

        • Yo People Lawd, Again, I agree totally. You seem to have a pretty rationale mindset and then in the end you can hit ‘em with some blows that would make a refere give ‘em an “eight count”! Where are you from, if youy don’t mind me asking?

        • YO PEOPLE LAWD… You obviously misunderstood what Emmett was saying.. The fact is if a child doesn’t learn to honor their parents their days will be cut short according to the bible,it may not happen at this very moment but they will not have the full number of days promised to them…

        • YOU were not there as well, “YO.” You may be speaking out of your behind. You are talking about arrogant preachers, that he made an error in judgment, beating her down to the ground, punk s***, etc. You sound like a very angry person and more violent than you accuse Creflo to be.

          You probably have no problem with policemen beating and killing our young people.

          I would love to have heard your response if the report instead was that his 15 yr-old daughter was found at a party doing drugs, drinking, etc. You probably would have said that he was not properly disciplining and/or supervising his daughter.

    • To beat and choke his daughter is wrong no excuse, There are other ways to deal with such problems. Maybe if he gave the right attention to his family rather then getting rich off of poor people about God.
      If he was in the spirit of CHRIST HE WOULD HAVE HANDLE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.. Malia or Sasha are being care for by their grandmother father and mother. Brother Dollar needs counsel. Peace.

    • You have to teach children the right way from they are babies. Not spoil them rotten, especially in front of others, and try to correct it when they are teenagers, by then it’s too late.

    • Almost all of our great leaders have been arrested for a cause. It’s good to actually see a black man being a man. In this case being a father. Now maybe more black men will be a father to their children. Let’s thank Pastor Dollar for being that example of a father to us black men. Doing whats right because it’s right inspite of the outcome.

    • A lot of Christian parents do not understand the term ‘unconditional love’ and are manipulative and controlling. This is a lot to do with the way you want the world to view your child. The problem is the dictatorship you use over your child. Your child is unhappy and you do not know them but, just give rules that are enforced on them. If they became Bhuddist, you’d guilt trip and be upset. You must give some space and choice to the child or you will end up like this. Pastor Creflo was WRONG to assault a young adult. This is not the AGAPE that Christianity speaks about and those who condone it are mad! You have missed the mark! There are other ways of dealing with things like this! This is violence! I am the daughter of a preacher and I have two sons. I will never treat them this way. This disgusts me. I hope he sorts out his issues and I hope his daughter sorts the ones her father will have created!

      • Yessss!!!! Amen again and again and again…!!! Somebody please keep it coming like its hot. Wisdom rings out on this blog board… I love it…wink!

    • The Obamas are intelligent people who would probably have a firm discussion while showing respect for their children. They would not punch, choke, or wrestle their daughters to the floor over a party. Uneducated parents always use violence or they support violence. That’s why their neighborhoods are full of drama.

      Malia and Sasha would be not be disrespectful because they are probably taught to be respectful. If the pastor’s daughter was disrespectful, she probably learned it from him. He’s probably a master at presenting himself one way in public and another way behind closed doors.

      • Amen Monique… The evil one is called:(THE SPIRIT OF RELIGION), and Creflo Dollar bathes in it, reeks in it, drives in it, preaches in it, cooks in it, it is his endless agenda 24-7, because it gets his thieving a*s paid big dollars, that’s why his last name is DOLLAR…

    • I’m pretty sure Obama wouldn’t have choked his daughter out and punched her ! A simple b**t whooping and a grounding should have sufficed. If he had raised her right she would have NEVER thought about hitting him. There are other ways of disciplining your children without choking them…

    • Children these days seem to feel that they are entitled to everything. This is false and some of them feel that the criminal system is thier own personal bodyguard against their parents. I have seen so many kids who needed to get a richous a*s whoopen not receive any form of disicpline due to the parent fearing criminal litigation. This isnt write the pendulum has swung to far to the right.

    • Kareemah Jackson

      Regardless of the efforts we expend in raising our children, remember that we cannot watch them 24/7 because we have to provide for them. Unfortunately we sacrifice the ability to control the outside influences they come into contact with; members of our families, friends, neighbors, teachers, classmates, and members of the church. In these environments they are exposed to things that are contrary to our (parents) ideals, parenting style, etc. and they hide these things from us because they know that we would disapprove. By the time we began to recognize the signs it’s too late. Once the genie is out of the bottle as they say! We parents have got to become like the FBI and conduct spontaneous investigations of what our children are doing, where they hangout and with whom they spend their time. We must deploy the same tactic with those in authority who have the greatest influence over our children in our absence, and we must be diligent.

  2. AMELIA JOHNSON

    This is awful. THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH PICTURE. WE ARE DEALING WITH A GENERATION THAT STRIVES ON WRONG DOING AND DOING THINGS IN THIER OWN WAY.THIS MAN OF GOD SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ARRESTED!!

    • I understand what parents face today with this generation of most disrespectful youth unfortunately but the law applies to anyone, when a charge is made, even the President of the USA, no exceptions. He will have his day in court. After all they didn’t nailed him to the cross, lol

    • Really Amelia? Really?

    • YO PEOPLE LAWD

      If he is a man of GOD AMELIA, let me ask you what would God or Jesus do? If God felt like you should not go to a party, would God Choke yo a*s and beat you with a shoe? YES HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED… men of god make mistakes and he made his and that is the consequence of his actions. If it would have been any other man, would you christians be saying the same for that man?

      • I don’t know if he really choked her as she alleges, but the Bible DOES say that “the rod of correction drives foolishness from a child.” and “Spare not the rod lest ye spoil the child. …if you beat him he will not die..”

        If that child hit him first, then I don’t blame him for going off. That is freaking crazy. Hitting your parents??? Did you forget that she hit him first??

        That’s why we see so much killing by white children. Many of their parents don’t spank their kids, and allow them to DISRESPECT them by calling them names, threaten them, etc. That is not a myth. I live in a very White neighborhood and OMG, the things these kids do and say to their parents! The COMPLETE DISREGARD AND DISRESPECT they have for adults is absolutely atrocious. So what the heck do you do?? Put her on time-out when she is 15 and strikes her father? Give her to the police for them to abuse her as they often do? Do you realize that many women get raped by CO’s in jail??

    • Tell that to the police. Anyone who assaults another should be arrested. What is good for a goose is good for a gander. Do you want someone choking you and throwing you to the floor? No, and neither did the daughter. Every preacher, priest, reverend, etc. is not a man of God. God does not condone us neglecting one another.

  3. DOLLAR DID THE DEVIL MAKE YOU BEAT YOUR DAUGHTER THIS IS FUNNY

    • Funny??? No, actually its sad that your are so ignorant and posted it for the World to see.

      • He beat his daughter because she wanted more money. All the money he stole from the church and the people,He should have given her more.Creflo is nothing but a thug.

        • To Coast Cooker I remember you responding about the issue of the Pastor allegedly run his wife down with his Bentley. You seem to have some issue with God and His people. You are quick to see the negative and now you are calling Dr. Dollar a thug and accusing him of stealing money from the church. Stop gossiping and spreading falsehoods about people you don’t know. Since you are human I know you have hurt someone else or have done something out of order. Why are you SO critical about everyone else? Who or what hurt you? Seek God for healing before you talk about anyone else’s life. Read the bible, seek God for wisdom and hopefully you will have more compassion for other people.

          • My grand father was a preacher,and he wasa skum bag. birds of a feather flock together.I rest my case..

          • Coast Cooker, every preacher is and was not your grandfather. You have proved nothing by stating the fact that he was a bad preacher. Stop blaming the world. All doctors are not bad because there are some that commit malpractice.

            If you saw you grandfather be awful, why are being so awful too? You will have to find another way to justify your bad mouth and bad attitude.

            Despite some bad preachers, God is still real and we still need preachers.

      • its funny to me for years he preach the word of god then he beat the h**l out of his daughter. next you’re going to say god said forgive. tell dollar to give evander holyfied some of millions back so he can pay his child support.you IGNORAMUS

    • LMAO!!!! Too funny!!! Good question lol!!!!

  4. BIG UPS TO REV. DOLLAR!!!! NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED..

  5. Really! She better be glad that all she got! We lived and feared the terms, ” I brought you in this world and I’ll take you out”! Let that man go! First, society says discipline you kids and if they fail and end up incarsarated or dealing drugs….it’s your fault as their parents. But if you discipline them then it’s battery and child abuse? Way to go rev. Good job!

  6. This is not the behavior of a man of God by many means. He should have shown restraint and, for not doing so, it was appropriate response for Creflo Dollar to have been arrested. Because Dollar is a minister, does not make him immune to tendencies of the world and, frankly, has shown it with his loss of control in attacking his daughter. Children are just that, and behaving as they do does not provide them with the example of temperance and reasoning parents are in a position to teach them.

    With all the wisdom and guidance purported on the pulpit, he seems to have not utilized it himself. What does this say about how men are to treat women? What frame of reference will this young girl have when she encounters men in her life? Should she expect the person who loves you to viciously attack her when in disagreement, at fault or if she shows lack of good judgment?

    Of course, the truth remains between the two of them and not in the media hype. However, simply saying that children are disrespectful and should be disciplined in this uncouth manner as if in some street brawl is not the answer. Dollar needs help, and NOT just God and prayer!!!

    • greg c hamblet

      Bullshit. I grew up in a house where if I did something wrong, my parents spanked my a*s. No questions asked. I honestly deserved all but ones of those beatings and often today wonder what type of person I would be had I not received those much deserved spankings. Kids today are pampered an many of them will pay dearly for this when they grow up and have to deal with the world ON THEIR OWN.

      • Greg, I certainly agree with you wholeheartedly. That is the problem today, people are scared to discipline their children. D.Martin, my father was and is a minister and pastor and when my brothers and I got out of line, we got spanked. We not only got spanked, but we were put on punishment too. While I am sorry that the good minister was arrested that is the price he will have to pay for disciplining his child. The article says she tried to hit him, I would never raise a hand to my father or mother to this day and I am 50 something.

      • I agree the daughter should have been disciplined, and somehow feel the media completely disregarded ‘what’ actually happened in their home! My parents had six children and put the fear of God first,(then them), in our hearts. The mere thought of ‘raising a hand to hit’ either parent was COMPLETELY out of the question. And, to disrespect them was a close second. As a former educator, I know first hand how difficult it is to attempt to deal with disrespectful youth. Amazing, how society has influenced our youth in a negative manner… and so very sad that Minister Dollar was placed in the lime-light for not sparing the rod to spoil the child! Wake up folks!

      • On the contrary and definitely not bullshit… Spanking is different from punching and choking. I didn’t suggest that unruly children shouldn’t be disciplined; however, discipline is NOT abuse. Some methods years ago were abusive like whippings with an extension cord or broom handle. I wish laws were in place then. Children are not animals, and even animals seem to have more rights than human beings, now days. Parents need to show intelligence rather than combativeness. If a parent is being combative, they’ve forgotten they have the upper hand and have given away innate power and respect.

        This was far from just a disciplinary action. This situation sounds as if it got abusive and violent, especially if police got involved and Dollar was arrested. Hopefully, this kid doesn’t walk away with the lesson of not showing control, stooping to a low and beating somebody when you’re not listened to.

        Yes, I’ve had my share of spanking at a very young age, but not at 15 years old. Parents have forgotten their role as teachers not simply disciplinarians or authoritarians. The establishment of respect and setting boundaries starts much younger, and if not addressed when kids reach the “I know it all” teens, problems such as these will erupt more likely than not.

        • It is so easy to give an opinion on something when you don’t have all the facts. You don’t know if he was trying to restrain her,give her a spanking or responding to her hitting him……regardless, you don’t know how you would respond until it happens to you. The best thing to do is pray for the family, because we all could easily be going through the same thing. This has to be devistating to the family and I pray that the repercussions won’t have a lasting affect on their lives.

        • Thank you Dr. D Martin… They can’t even hear a word your speaking cause its like the blind leading the blind.

      • I am 61 years old and I grew up a household the same way. The beating are not good for children. It only makes things worse. My mother beat me and I continued to do things that I was not supposed to do. My father talked to me and explained to me the harm in doing what I was doing to myself and to others. I stopped doing those things. You turn out the way you do because of you and not for being beaten like an animal. My father stopped my mother from beating me with an extension cord because I was bleeding badly. I remember what he said to her now and I feel better. When I remember the beating, I don’t remember why, I remember the blood.

        • Thank you Bobcat, because that’s all I remember: (All the fricken b****y beatings) which never changed one d**n thing, but did more harm to the soul then anything else.

        • That is not the kind of corporal punishment for unruly kids that people are referring to. Beating a child until they are bleeding badly is to the extreme.

    • You are 100 percent correct. Its sad that people are missing the point here.this 15 yo FEMALE was punched! By a male that was her father! Because she wanted to go to a party that he didn’t approve of? That is insane! And guess what he in jail and she still gonna go to the party…that was absolutely the wrong thing to doand chkns coming home to roost that’s all. That girl is now going to really act out. Let her go to the party I’m sure this isn’t the first time this has happened. And we grown folks forget we were that age and rebelled and stuck and did things. You have toi let young people come into there own …you gonna make mistakes. Trying to rule with an iron fist never ever work…. I’m hoping this young
      ladys self esteem is not destroyed by all of this. It does something to a female child when there father hurts them like this…..

      • Rev. B. L Hickmon

        You need to read your bible, if you claim to be a Christian. If you are not claiming christianity I understand your comments! The world loves its own!

    • My brother left home after receiving a “whupping” at 14 yrs old. (about 40 yrs ago) He left the house and came back with the police. My Dad said OK. Hold on for one minute. He came back with a suitcase with my brother’s clothes. The cops said “we can’t take him with us”. My Dad told them “then get out of my house. This is my child and if he needs to be disciplined, I’ll do it. I would rather beat him now with love than have you shoot him on the street” Parents have no authority. They took God and Discipline in the schools and Discipline in the home. Had that been me, you would have needed a broom and a dustpan to pick me up off of the floor.

      • Thank you for writing the Truth.

      • Maygirl , I know that’s right!!! I’m feeling your daddy’s move ALL THE WAY!!! Pastor’s daughter is living a prevlidged life and I’m in SUPPORT of him tapping that a*s!!! My 4 year old son told me yesterday at Costco, not to touch him or say anything to him because I wouldn’t promise to buy him a toy!! I whopped his a*s and popped him in the mouth right on the spot…this man that,worked at the store stopped to look at me and when I finished he said ” good job mom, ur doing the right thing!! I told my son, I take care if you, dont you ever think u can talk to me like that, no matter how old u are!!! I really wanted to.curse him out and say your 4 year old a*s got me f****d up, but I didn’t cause his my kid.

        • I know that’s right!!!! I have a 3 year old and when her tone starts to get unrighteous, I am on her!!!!!

        • You did curse him by beating on him. You can talk to a child and let the child know what is wrong without beating them. Some of you people must be close decendents of slaves or slave owners. Beating is for fighters who want to fight and get paid for fighting. All other fighting is out. If a child wants to fight their parents or others in authority, call the police. Two wrongs have never made anything right. How would you like your childs father to pop you in your mouth when you said something he did not like?

    • D. Martin, Your statment is correct and I agree 100%. Mr. Dollar may call himself a pastor but really he is just a man. A human being with all the faults of man. He was wrong and a poor excuse of a father.If a father can’t control his 15 year old then he needed to be man enough to walk away and try again later with a two way conversation. A 15 year old (male or female) is to old to be “Spanked”. Reasoning, conversation and compromise what have brought a much better result.

      • Oh, but not to old for the parents to provide their needs financially and everything else their fifteen year old hearts desire. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!! If 15 is to old for me to disipline you, then get a job and get your own roof!!

        • Amen, Jessie!!! My the last time I physically disciplined my son, he was 16 yrs old. Talked back to me, and reared up. I popped him with my fist, and told him if he was that grown, to get out. Well, today he is a 35 yr old with 3 children of his own. His dad and I divorced when he was 10 yrs. old; he never even came to see him after. I literally raised 2 boys by myself. Not complaining. I am proud. You see, I used physical punishment when it was necessary. Both of my sons grew up to become responsible adults, no gang activity, no drugs, no jail time. Being black, that is quite an accomplishment. Yes, I believe in spanking, if all else fails, and certainly KIDS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HIT THEIR PARENTS or anyone else for that matter.

        • Some people do not need children. Discipline does not mean whipping a child. Discipline means talking to your child and making them learn the ill of their way. The law says that children are to be supported by their parents until either emancipated or reach an age of 18 years for females and 21 years for males. If you are unable to control your child, get help, not introduce the child to corporal punishment.

          • Oh, please, Newton. You sound like one of the infiltrators that made spanking illegal because too many Black children were obedient and well-disciplined.
            Spanking does not mean whipping.

            Why in the world would I ask a complete stranger to deal with my problems with MY OWN CHILD?? Do you ask people to handle issues that come up in your daily life? You know danged well that dealing with a teen is part of life, but getting hit by your child is not!

      • Ministers are ordained and thus are not like other men.

    • To D Martin, I’m glad your feet are not made of clay like the rest of us. Men of God have to deal with issues of life like everyone else, Go in the Word of God and see how many perfect people you see! Only one, so don’t judge until you have waled in Dr. Dollar’s shoes.

      • Clearly, you have not read my entire content. There has been no claim by me to be perfect. And obviously, Dollar is not either. However, he is a minister who interprets how thousands of people should conduct their life to be of service to God. I would say this was not a good counseling moment for him. I don’t consider that judgment.

        You have no idea of my journey, to make the assumption you have. Everyone is entitled to believe and hear what they want, and not hear what they do not desire to, as well. None of us were there so the generalization made here are in response to the information given so far. We do know that the police were called and Dollar was arrested. For many, that’s enough to say that this ordeal was handled poorly.

    • Proverbs 22:16
      King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
      Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him

      GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
      Foolishness is firmly attached to a child’s heart. Spanking will remove it far from him.

      American Standard Version
      Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; But the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

      Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary
      Sin is foolishness, it is in the heart, there is an inward inclination to sin: children bring it into the world with them; and it cleaves close to the soul. We all need to be corrected by our heavenly Father. 16. We are but stewards, and must distribute what God intrusts to our care, according to his will.

      Proverbs 13:24 He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.
      Proverbs 20:30 Blows and wounds cleanse away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being.
      Proverbs 23:14 Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.
      Proverbs 29:15 The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.

      • People can get confused about what is meant by sparing the rod. People have beat children to death in the name of not sparing the rod. The actions of these people are perverse. The act of choking is perversed, for you could not know your own strength, are unable to control your rage, and kill someone. Throwing a female child to the floor is not only perverse but is demeaning, especially for this supposed upright,religious man. Proverbs 14:2 He that walketh in the uprightness feareth the Lord: but he that is perverse in his ways despiseth Him.

        • Please be quiet, Newton. You keep going to the extreme. No one on this post has suggested that a child should be beaten any way near to death. You are so annoying. Rage? Kill someone?
          That girl is 15. She is most likely not a small child. And how do you know Creflo has big hands?

    • Amen to that. Can you image those big hands around that childs throat? Can you image that child being thrown to the floor by that big a*s man? Utterly ridiculous. It makes me wonder if God even knows Creflo, or if Creflo really believes in God.

    • LMAO!!! Love it! Love it! Love it!!!! You preach brother D. Martin, screw all clueless people. lol lol lol!!!

  7. As a society, I think we’re sometimes too quick to fault our kids instead of holding the parents accountable. This story just doesn’t seem right to me. Why would a grown man, a father, “spank” and “wrestle” his 15 year old daughter? Culturally, black folks don’t even use the word “spank”. There’s a difference between discipline and abuse. If a child is harmed or sustained injuries, to me, that’s beyond discipline. Did he really “spank” his daughter or attack her as she reports. I’m concerned he’s trying to cover this abuse by calling it discipline. There’s something about this that just doesn’t sound right to me.

    • I agree with u Jasmine. it smells like a rat. why is he wrestling her to the floor? Is she crazy to just hit him? She’s 15 yrs old, on the verge of adulthood and i will bet this has happened before..to choke someone shows there is rage…we are all men and women of a higher source but when we commit injustices we deserve punishment…

      • Lorraine Jones

        Let Ur daughter do U like that, Put the shoes on Ur feet, Judging, because he’s a minister his children don’t act up.. He’s supposed to act different. He’s super minster, tell me. He’s human Not super Minister.

        • Let a big man like that choke you, throw you to the floor, and whip on you. No one deserves that as a disciplinary action. Ministers are supposed to be super, God like.

    • Y’all tripping, do y’all read how kids kill their parents. I taught my kids to fear me cause I will not be afraid of them. When they raise up against you, you knock the H–L out of them. Go to the word and see how God would have handled her. She was lucky she had breath in her body to talk to a cop. And I am not a Fan of the Pastor!!

      • I totally agree with Karen F. Anyone who has teenagers or who even know teenagers should understand this. Not all kids are disrespectful but in this age of “WE ARE ENTITLED TO DO AND SAY WHAT WE WANT TO” some of these kids need to know that parents aren’t here to be ogres… we are here to RAISE THEM UP RIGHT as best as we can, as so many have stated. I am not a fan of Mr. Dollar but I am not going to condemn him for his actions either.

  8. Bs pastor. I never liked this dude. Most of these reverends, pastors, preachers, bishops or whatever BS names they call themselves are fraud. Living high off their loyal flock. The new Tammy Faye & Jim Bakers. 15yrs old is to old to be putting your hands on someone. If she’s unruly and has a pattern of this send her a*s to boot camp. I never trust a man with the last name of dollar. Stop idolizing so-called men/women of God. They’re regular people. You don’t need a middleman in order to talk to God. It’s a short trip from the pimp game to the pulpit. Snap out of it people.

    • Amen to that! What’s his real name anyway??

    • Phillip, I so agree!!People who put there faith and trust in a man calling himself or herself pastor are destin for disappointment.

    • Amen and Amen to that Phillip…, my thoughts exactly. Its time for Creflo Dollar-Rama’s pimping-a*s to get busted and uncovered like all the rest of them… The real truth shall prevail. Something is seriously wrong when a mega-preacher lives high on the hog and our black communities are extremely poverished to no end. I must admitt I’ve been expecting something to be revealed about him too, and this is still not the end, there is more to come, so just hold onto your britches yall…

  9. Pastor, we are praying for you…I know it is an attack from the enemy. As well as you provide for your children, she ought to be glad this is not 1960!

  10. CarolinaSistah

    His daughter probably was ‘mouthing off’ as teens will sometimes do. His stature as a father and his teachings as a minister should have guided him in making the proper response to his ‘disrespectful’ daughter.

    She was just being what some teenagers are…rebellious and mouthy about it! He lost in this round! Absolutely no glory to God. Let’s hope he seeks forgiveness from God and his daughter, and that healing takes place all around.

    • Forgiveness for what? I don’t get it!

    • I learned early on from watching my brother with his 16-year-old son that arguing with teenagers is useless. If they insult you, let them know why it was disrespectful and walk away. My nephew insulted me and you know what, I called him on it, told him he wasn’t welcome in my house ever again until he apologized and I walked away from his a**. I told my brother and sure did get a sorry, auntie.

  11. If she can do that you should do again and tell her keep it moving and that your bag with you Aman

  12. “Creflo” (what the h*ll is a Creflo?) is just another “Jesus Pimp” who has as his following some of the stupidest people in America. I’ve hated him ever since he said the Northridge California quake in 1994 was cause by the sins of the people in California.Creflo Dollar isn’t even his real name.Some African Americans can be so ignorant for following this kind of devil.

  13. As the mother of a 21-year-old daughter and an 18-year-old son, I can tell you that you have to do your work on the front-end. I’m not for child abuse, but I’m for clearly establishing the food chain early on…and providing refresher training as required.I can also tell you there are times when teen-agers really do make you want to choke them out!!! She didn’t just start mouthing off suddenly at 15; she’d been getting away with stuff she shouldn’t have been all along.

    Also, it is not a foregone conclusion that he did that of which he is accused: it certainly would not be the first time a disgruntled child made a false report.

  14. WELL, what has come of this society that has given more authority to children than parents. What happened that parents have to be psychology majors to raise their own children??? HOW FAR AWAY from parents having authority over their homes and children have we become. SO LETS SEE …. NOW PARENTS CANT EVEN BE PARENTS WITHOUT A JAIL RECORD? EXPLOITED IN THE NEWS? IS THIS SUPPOSE TO BE FUNNY??? THIS HAPPENING TO ANY PARENT IS NOT FUNNY. PASTOR OR NO PASTOR. I THINK JUST BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT HE WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HIS IMAGE HER ACTING OUT MADE HER GO FURTHER TO HUMILIATE AND OR EMBARRASS HIM BUT SHE FOUND OUT WAS HE AINT SCARED OF THAT EITHER. LOL !!!!!! AND SINCE SHE WANTS TO BE ALL THAT ITS TIME TO SEND HER TO THAT RELATIVE IN THAT 5TH WORLD COUNTRY so she can do what ever she wants to do on her own dime. Since she feels she can with his what she wants. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DISRESPECT MY PROVISIONS? OK LETS STOP TALKING AND DO THE THING THEN. AND SEE WHO WINS.? ….. miss sasafrass. SEE THIS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CHILDREN CANT VALUE WHAT IS BEING GIVEN THEM BECAUSE THEY TAKE FOR GRANTED THOSE WHO BLESS THEM. THIS WAS A FAMILY MATTER THE SHE HAS MADE INTO A PUBLIC SPECTACLE. I HOPE SHE AND HE HAVE LEARNED FROM IT. AND ON HIS SIDE OF THE MATTER .. WHERE WAS THE MOTHER IN ALL THIS? tellling her she could go???? hummmm and why was this party any different than all the others? and what ever the case may be why did it have to resort to being physical? ijs

    • Well stated!

    • Actually, he does have a psychology degree. We weren’t there, but sounds like it might have been loose parenting followed by overreaction.

    • People should have to be educated before having children. If they were properly educated, than, they would know how to talk and not fight to get their points across. This child should not have been choked, beaten, spanked, wrestled to the floor, beat with a shoe, none of that. This supposedly learned man should have stopped her by calling the police and teaching a lesson, or he should have got the mother involved. The mother probably gets her rump whipped to if she does something he does not like. Too bad the televangelist has manifested this bad publicity for his family and possibly his church.

  15. Totally agree with you.!!!!!!

  16. Arthur Hutchinson

    Pastor’s are People too and its not like he has a past of child disipline. I agee, in my generation, we feared our parents. Pray for Pastor Creflo and dont judge.

  17. Admittedly I was ready for a scandal to be released. However, after reading the details I see he did no wrong. Proverbs 13:24 He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.(New International Version) He is practicing what he preaches.

  18. VIOLENCE IS NEVER, NEVER THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING…HE SHOULD HAVE LET HER GO AND LEARN FROM HER MISTAKES. ALL YOU COULD DO IS BE THERE WHEN THEY REALIZE, AND LOVE THEM UNCONDITIONALLY. GOD BLESS

    • Ecclesiastes 3

      New International Version (NIV)

      A Time for Everything

      3 There is a time for everything,
      and a season for every activity under the heavens:

      2 a time to be born and a time to die,
      a time to plant and a time to uproot,
      3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
      a time to tear down and a time to build,
      4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
      a time to mourn and a time to dance,
      5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
      a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
      6 a time to search and a time to give up,
      a time to keep and a time to throw away,
      7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
      a time to be silent and a time to speak,
      8 a time to love and a time to hate,
      a time for war and a time for peace.

      Maybe this was a time for him to show self control. Or—maybe this was a time for him to go Madea on her behind.

      I bet if Taffy Dollar had done it instead of him, no cops would have been called.

    • If I had a girl that age, yeah, I’d let her go to the party. But when she got back, the computer would be gone, the cute furniture would be gone, the TV GONE and the party clothes too. I would let her know that she is 15, under my care until 18 and under my rules and when they’re disobeyed privileges/material comforts go away. If she wants to earn her stuff back she needs to do x, y and z. LOL.

    • @ Nitza
      Just a little note from experience , when we allow our children to ” learn from their mistakes ” GOD forbid , some of them don’t survive to learn !!!! it’s far better to have an ” angry LIVING child ” than a DEAD SATYSFIED child ” !!!!!!

      • Very well said. I cant believe the ridiculous advise going forth here, where a parent should let their child go to a questionable party in hopes nothing bad happens, or if something does happen the child learns their lesson. What if she is raped, killed or crashes in a drunk driving accident??? what kind of WISDOM will she gain from that. My parents kept me from places where shootout broke out and had raids and more. I thank God I was forbid from learning my lessons the hard way.

  19. How can anybody make comments without knowing the facts? People are assuming his daughter was in the wrong. I’m not a Creflo fan, but the facts need to come out before judging.

    • When everyone get through with your opinion No means No.
      Both are wrong but when you can’t and will will not respect my rule the you need you own place. his the father she is the CHILD at 15.
      To much is going on if she get away with this the first time she will do it again. prayers for both.

      • For real. none of this would have happened if she had’ve dealt with the fact that she could not go to the party, period. To hit your parent?? And for a party?????

        Many here have said that teens always have conflict with parents about parties, etc. But how many teens do you know have hit their parents??? That “child” is WAAAYY over the top and most likely deserved a solid beat-down. If you think you’re grown enough to fight an adult, you’re grown enough to get a beat down by an adult.

    • The judge will see to that.

  20. MY DAUGTHER WHO IS NOW 19, SAIS SOME OF THE MOST HURTFUL THINGS A DAUGTHER COULD EVER SAY TO A DAD. IN ADDITION TO OTHER OUTLANDISH BEHAVIOR. THESE KIDS THESE DAYS HAVE NO RESPECT! HOWEVER NO MATER HOW DISRESPECTFUL YOU CANNOT LAY YOUR HANDS ON KIDS NOWADAYS NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY. I LEARNED TO JUST WALK AWAY AND SAY “CALL ME WHEN YOU GET SOME SENSE IN YOUR HEAD AND GROW UP” ALTHOUGH SHE IS GOWN NOW SHE EVEN WANT ME TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT AND AS SHE CONTINUE TO DISRESPECT ME. IS SHE KIDDING? PAY YOU TO CURSE AND YELL AT ME!

    THIS COMMENT IS COMING FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE!

    SHE WILL JUST HAVE TO BE MAD AT ME BUT I COME FROM THE OLD SCHOOL.

  21. No man should be whipping a daughter that is 15 yrs old. You people are thinking he is a pastor, so he’s right. Better open your eyes people. This is a “man” not God. Yes some kids are off the hook, but a man whipping a daughter that is 15, some of you are as “abusive” as he is. Call the police, but whipping her………….yeah right !

    • I got my last whipping at 17 yrs old. My Dad told me to wash the dishes because the person assigned that week was not home. He then asked me a question and I ignored him. He left the room and came back with a belt. I got it good that time. No child is going to argue with me about anything. If I say “no”, it is NO!!! I am a productive, well-adjusted adult, not a criminal, pervert or any other negative person. Kids need boundaries that are ENFORCED by “whatever means necessaryP. Some kids can take a tongue lashing others need belt lashings.

  22. who called the cops? she did?

  23. Just ask Marvin Gaye…

    • marva Lightbourne

      yes..this is one good example.. ( & I am NOT advocating violence or abuse to CONTROLL any unruly child ). but MARVIN GAYE was killed by his father, and his fathher said “his son had disrepect him & even abuse him for years !! “..interesting, it’s also deeper than his “hitting” his daughter, I have a feeling the WHOLE family dynamics will be exposed, & for thoses in the media / other preachers / sen. grassley who will be secretly cheering this on, in hopes of rev. dollar downfall, as with rev. eddie long.. it’s heart breaking

  24. That’s right. She doesn’t need to go to a party. Kids today are too much. Do what you have to do.

  25. This time I’m on the Pastor’s side. Man I would not even think to call the police on my parents. These children are out of control No means no stay your a*s in the house! No party for you, I wouldn’t even think to charge my mom with nothing!

  26. These kids today are not much different than those of yesterday, except this generation is more disrespectful to adults. Back in my day when you did wrong you were chastised (beaten with whatever) and you never talked back to adults. If you did not want to follow rules at home you followed rules in the reformed schools. The Reverend should not have done anything and when she got back home her bags should have been packed and taken to the juvenile detention center. I hope man vindicates the Reverend because I know God will.

  27. Go to the Party? nah……Yes MAYBE… WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG?…JUST MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT…. WHAT IF …That was the only thing he could do to stop her. What if he didnt stop her…What if she went and got shot up? Who knows? if he truly is a MAN OF GOD THEN He might have done the right thing.

    And could of saved her life……………

    God Bless
    Joseph

  28. Jamaican Douglah

    I have a friend from Jamaica who tried to discipline his daughter (not abuse but discipline). She did the same thing by calling the cops and accusing him of child abuse. He is not a citizen and it really affected his ability to find work (it’s on his record). Over time, authorities involved in this situation admitted–by watching his actions and getting to know his daughter–that he didn’t do anything wrong. His daughter now regrets what she did, as her life as turned out poorly b/c of this and other bad decisions. The Bible is clear about disciplining your children and about honoring your father and mother that it may go well with you and you may live long on the earth. These fascistic policies which strip parents of their rights to “parent” their kids must be done away with. Until then, I think mass civil disobedience (i.e. disciplining your children according the Bible (in love–see Ephesians 6:4). Just thought I’d clarify in case any academics or elites utterly devoid of common sense would try to twist what I’m saying :)

  29. I am in total agreement with Creflo’s response to handling his daughter being disrespectful. There should be more parents doing the same. It’s time to tell the police and any other social service entity – Mind Your Business and Stay Out of Mind!!! If we do this, you will see a change in your children. They’ll learn what lines not to cross!!!

  30. There is a difference between discipline in love and abuse!
    I would have never called the cops on my parents. I was too afraid to lol. One thingis that people are allowing the outside to influence the family unit and some how people think everything should be the same.
    It ain’t so. ” Just because so and sos parents allow them to do such, that don’t mean you gonna do it”.
    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, the fear of (mentally stable) parents is the beginning of the start of wisdom.
    If you were diagonsed with cancer, would you ask your friend in your biology class about treament for cancer or an expert eho has studied your case and has the experience regarding your medical condition? Exactly! So why do these freaking kids turn to another kid for guidance and better yet, why do parents allow this c**p while the kids are small. Do your children really need to socialize with others who are in dysfunctional families?
    The same kids who call it abuse will go and have a man going upside their heads. The same kids who do not want to do their home work or chores will be ok with being pimped out to Johns. God has already told us what it’s gonna be like in these days so why are we even surprised. Children- honor your parents so that your days will be long upon the earth!

  31. The Article says that he PUNCHED AND CHOKED his daughter. He said he WRESTLED her to the floor..He punched, choked and wrested a young woman to the ground…When Chris Brown did it everyone ran to rihannas side….MEN ARE NOT TO HIT WOMEN… WAhhhh WAhhhh she hit me first. Hopefully this will bring Creflo to the Lord, the REAL Lord Jesus Christ. Lord only knows how many other and what kind of parties this 15 year old has been attending…why stop her now…

    • I so agree with what you said. If, and that’s a big IF, he should have walked away. That what everyone said that Chris Brown should have done and he was just 19 years old.

  32. Ok… She probably deserved it. Hos older daughter is wayyyyy outta control too. He is their father. Just because he is a man of God does not mean he should not beat his kids. And for all of you trying to.pull that “he is a man of God card” the Bible does say beat the h**l out of ur kids. So know your favts! Good going Creflo. Im on your side. He is a human to. Just one that teaches about God. Everyone makes mistakes. Who are we to judge….

  33. Having been a part of the Child Protective System in Texas where my children were KIDNAPPED from our safe haven (Star of Hope Shelter for Women and Children) lets me know that we are in SERIOUS TROUBLE as Blacks and Hispansics. My children were abducted by CPS from a false allegation by my sister who put my 3 girls and myself at the time 6 months pregnant out of her house at 10:30pm, all because she wanted to give my baby girl CRAWFISH. If that was not enough she began to call CPS alleging that I was POSSIBLY MENTAL ILL AND I MIGHT BE ON DRUGS. CPS never investigated because this call came from a family member and my brother who is an FBI made calls also. Eventhough he has only met my children maybe once and he has’nt really been around me since 1996. Tell me what you think? Since July 2008 I have been fighting the State of Texas for my children. I have been brutelly raped and my apartment was vandelized all because I WONT GO AWAY!!! GIVE ME MY CHILDREN AND I WILL!! GOD IS IN CONTROL. PEOPLE STOP GETTING EXCITED ABOUT TITLES. PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE!!! Trust me!! If you have any influnces with a POWERFUL PERSON!! THAT CAN GET MY STORY OUT. CALL ME 832-498-9173

    • I have to say that you seem mental. You have not provided a safe haven for your children. What are you and your children doing at your sisters house at 10:30 pm? Your children and you at 6 months pregnant, should have been in the bed. Everyone in your family is not lying on you. You seem to be in denial as most drug abusers are and you should seek help. Until you get the help that you really need, you will not get your children back. God is in control of all who help to control themselves. No one will be able to help you unless and until you are ready to help yourself. Pray to God for the wisdom to help you rid the things that keep you and your children apart, work on doing what you pray for, and watch the Lord work with you. No one can help you, but you, but you cannot help yourself if you do not know yourself. Find you amongst all of the confusion in your life.

      • Get off this site, Newton. I am positive now that you are a plant and a racist, negative force to put confusion and hurt in the black community. You are a watcher and an instigator. You and others try to speak with “calm” tones to appear to be an authority.

        This woman was wrong to be at her family’s house an 10:30 at night? What does the heck does that mean? But that’s the point. You say outlandish ridiculous things to anger and frustrate people of color. You are a devil. Keep speaking in low tones. You have to so you don’t blow your cover. I see through you.

  34. I HOPE HE PUT HER OUT OF THE HOUSE WHEN HE RETURNS FROM JAIL. LET HER GO OUT ON HER OWN SINCE SHE IS PROUD ENOUGH TO HAVE HIM ARRESTED.

  35. GOD BLESS US ALL!!!!! HEAVENLY FATHER PLEASE TAKE CHARGE!!!!!! THIS IS DEFINTETLY A JOB FOR JESUS!!!!! ENJOY YOUR DAY EVERYONE YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!!!!! GOD GOT IT!

  36. sherrie chapman

    Yes, i think is is correct for a parent(Pasor or not) to whip their children. Today’s kids are out of line. They dissrepct adults and their parents. If a child wants to call the police, let them, then tell them to go live with the police since they dont want to follow the rules. If they think they are too grown, then they dont’ deserve loving parents who provide for them. A child of 15 has to follow their parents rules or GET OUT. END of story….

  37. Nate from Georgia

    I don’t know the particular circumstances of the case, BUT, I do know that a disrepectful teenager who ‘talks trash’ to you while you feed them, clothe them, shelter them, and finance them, can make (cause) you to lose your religion (at least for a moment). I’m sure that if Rev. Dollar could relive that moment, He’d have done things differently. Take it from a 58 year old grand-dad, mouthy teenagers will trigger that ‘Ghetto Gene’, and make you want to plant a ‘crop of toe-nails’ in thier A**es. I don’t condone his reaction; BUT, remember what we were taught in science: with every action there is an equal and opposite REACTION! That wasn’t a Pastor Moment, that was a Daddy Moment! Give him a break on this one. If we had those 800 numbers that kids have today, ALL of our parents would be doing time!

    • @ Nate

      Thank you for your comment. I think it should be tagged as the *Laugh of the Day*. bwah hahahahahaha

  38. That is the prob these days kids think oh I can all the police and you will go to jail you are not suppose to hit your kid…..WRONG maybe if more ppl get in they kids b**t you will have more respectful kids……. “He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes” (Proverbs 13:24) and “Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from h**l.” (Proverbs 23:13-14)……So this states don’t beat your child….. You can. Whoop they b**t cuz if you don’t they are goin to beat your later…..

  39. I give him a standing ovation…Today’s children are completely out of control…Back in the day….there was no such thing as talking back to your elders…or being disrespectful towards your parents..

  40. He should have applied retraint,yes,but being a man of God still makes him a parent. U can’t spare d rod if u wanna bring up good kids. She’s lucky she ain’t my kid. She would have gotten more. I think d law should be reviewed,cos dis was needed! In all,u did d right thing as a father,even God spanks us more when we are bad.

  41. Raise your child Cref! “F” the Law! If mine hits me I am bangin back as well trust and believe!

  42. They should give him a medal!

    Sometimes the police need to say, “child listen to your parents, have a nice day you guys.”

    I appauled you Mr. Dollar; many parents need to do the same, then the kids everywhere will understand that your parents matter and you had better listen to them, until you are out and taking care of yourself.

    Let her go to into the system and get those wonderful shelter parents, withdraw all allowances, take back all things purchase except enough clothes for two weeks and the phone that he pays for, I’m sure; then, let’s see little momma do her thing.

    As many chldren out here that needs a father at home to help raise them and she has the audacity to call the police on her dad, knowing his situation. This was another aim to totally get back at him.

    I’d make her learn a very good lesson from this. No more freebies!!!

  43. Great example! We live in a World full of entitlement and no accountability-these are the Monsters that will rule tomorrow. Off more parents would raise their children so many of us would not have to work so hard with our own. In other words, we need consistant parenthood! Therefore our kids won’t think they’re missing out on anything because they’ll see less children doing everything. God bless you Pastor and your daughter in the healing.

  44. Wheniwassifted

    The person who commented on “man of Fod” obviously has no children and if so, definitely not defiant teens who are crazy and bad enoug to call 911 on her parents. Smhing! Been in those shoes and can say, I would have been in the next cell! My children, now wonderful thank me to this day but had they called 911- next cell to Pastor Dollar. He practice what he preaches, no abuse, just a rebellious teen and bet he would do it again. I can only imagine what she was doing or saying and at 15, you can not be at a party til 1:00, not under my watch. In summary, I would rather discipline you now and go to jail; rather than having you without boundaries and locked up later. Parents are afraid of their children, but mine knew I would (did) go t*t for tat. So if/when they were BAD, they had to bring if because they knew I would. Had someone said something, then I would have said you raise them then. Fast forward, both got full scholarships to college and we are best of friends and laugh about their badness and. My handling it. Oh and they even thanked me. NOW. My vote is with the Pastor. Clapping my hands tha someone besides me is not afraid of their children. No abuse in my opinion–cause and effect!,

  45. Amen Spare the Rod Spoil the Child. Disrespectful and disobedient children should be punished not abused. They do not realize it is for their own best interest when parents say no to them.
    Take a look at what is going on in the world today with our young folk especially in the United States.Some Children, nowadays do not honor their Father and Mother. I can imagine how disrespectful and loud mouth his daughter was being towards him. He has a right to discipline the child he is rearing. In his household he is the boss not his children. He has provided them with a good life, a better life than most, but no matter what a teenager is going to be a teenager no matter how privileged they are. he has given her every advantage in life and she does not appreciate it. Let her work and earn money for whatever she needs, maybe she should start paying rent buying her own food and clothes. (washing her own clothes, all of this using her own money that she has to work for, Not Daddy and Mommy’s money )
    Spare the Rod Spoil the Child.

    • When Moses took a rod to teach a lesson, he did not lay a hand on anyone. So you people are getting the rod wrong. The rod is not a physical whipping, it is a mental showing. If you do not let my people go, this is what you will suffer. He did not jump on anyone and start fighting and he got his point across. Beat yourselves and see how you like it. Fighting has gotten a lot of people killed and I do not have time to go into how abuse can lead one to murder.

      • Fig Newton you are so far gone its pathetic… I’ve read your postings and realize your are probably a child yourself with no children or really out of touch with reality. Now you are mentioning the one incident in the bible where Moses struck a rock with a rod and are using that text as your reasoning that the “sparing the rod” has been misused. Do yourself a favor and Stop repeating what you have heard someone else say and read the Bible for yourself. If you do you would not MISQUOTE what everyone else on this forum has correctly quoted in terms of “sparring the Rod.” Read the book of proverbs for starters…

        • Tell me about it, Fernando. He also forgets that God killed tens of thousands of the children of Israel in one day because of their disobedience. Notice, God called them ‘children of Israel.”

  46. This is nothing astonishing when it comes to any of these claimed to
    be holy pastors, as they say they are. Yes, young people in this day
    and age simply have a mind of their own. Did Dollar’s daughter deser-
    ved to be slapped, choked, or whatever else? This is the first time
    that I have heard anything “negative” regarding Creflo Dollar. Oh
    well, then again, the scripture plainly states that, “All have
    sinned and come short of the glory of God.” There is also a scripture
    that reads, “He that knoweth to do good and doeth it not shall be
    beaten with many stripes.” The only trouble that I have is that if
    false doctrine continues to “permeate” within the world of Christianity which is centered around Jesus Christ, and none other,
    who and where is the real example according to true and “sound doc-
    trine” that is printed in the Bible. We now know that it is not
    being “preached” according to scripture. Another scripture also reads: “But in vain do they worship me teaching for doctrines the
    commandments of men.” It does not amaze me what is going on in the
    so-called church world of today. Am I alone in my thinking. I DON’T
    THINK SO AS I AM TOLD! Peace!

  47. I do think she should have been disciplined for her behavior; but to put his hands on her to point of punching and choking her is taking it too far.
    I think they both lost control of the situation.
    Two wrongs don’t make a right; but spare the rod spoil the child.
    Thus, she deserved a spanking, but definitely not abuse.

  48. IF YOU CAN NOT RULE YOUR OWN HOUSE , YOU ARE NOT FIT FOR THE HOUSE OF GOD!

  49. Most of you are pawns of the government, they run every aspect of your home. you don’t raise your children they do and what you get is a misguided child that grows up to be a misguided adult that in turn when it’s their turn to parent they usually have matured (Parenthood does that) they see that the discipline that they were given as a child was actually a good thing put have to deal with a manipulative child taught to call THE POLICE on their parents when they are being disciplined.

    Do not care for this man religion but from knock down drag outs I have had to save mine I respect him for taking a stand. None is perfect and lord knows I was far from it, I accused when I didn’t have the facts, but I sensed what was going on I was a tyrant, an ogre. Matter of fact with players i coached I am an ogre but everyone without fail when the come back they thank me for being convicted in my principles. And I have had those that refused to adhere to the principles I hold dear and unfortunately it almost always works against them. It is our job to lead these young souls and sometimes it is not pretty. Well the process can be ugly but when you see the results, well they are beautiful when you have helped turn a person in to a productive citizen!

  50. IF YOU CAN’T RULE YOUR OWN HOUSE, YOU’RE NOT FIT TO RULE THE HOUSE OF GOD!

  51. I give him a standing ovation…Today’s children are completely out of control…Back in the day….there was no such thing as talking back to your elders…or being disrespectful towards your parents…ALL OF YOU THAT IS QUOTING THE BIBLE…Really don’t know the bible….GOD has been whipping a***s since the beginning of time..Tell him that he wrong on his discipline acts…

  52. Let us all stay out of this matter untill more information is available to us. I believe that a parent has the right to correct their child if and when needed. Do guys like Creflo get a fair chance like you or I for doing what he did, no. I was reported twice to the authorities for correcting my children. When the police came to my home I was told to use a leather belt and not to hit them in the face or head. The police agreed that a child needed from time to time a little painfull reinforcement to support the parents spoken words to their children.

  53. I am against violence but I am not against putting a child in check, I would rather go to jail then to visit my child later on down the road in jail. He is a father first then a minister please let’s not get it twisted. I pray that he will be able to forgive himself and her and not worry about the naysayers. Spare the rod spoil the child. Hopefully she will not try him again, lesson learned the hard way. Next time Rev. Dollar start praying out loud and let her hear you telling God what will happen to her if He does not intervene quickly.

  54. Let’s be real, even with the best home. Training folks start to smell themselves at a certain point. I had limits and when I hit my teenagers I started smelling myself real good. Best believe my mother hadvto knock me out. As an adult about to be 32 I agree with her methods. Children will test you even if they are raised right. Ignoring them to day I told you so is not acceptable either. Get your could be held liable if something happens. If what Creflo says is true that lil girl needs some good luck.

  55. Police needed to remember that they was 15 at one time; and knew better not to talk back to adult, because you were not in your house it was your parent(s) house. Children neeeded to be reminded that they are still children and listen to their parent(s) who will not lead them wrong! they needed to let that Pastor out on Jail he have done nothing wrong. and if that child live under his roof and want do as she is told he needed to do it all over again. My prayers are with that family.

  56. There is a huge difference between discipline and abuse. Discipline is a form of punishment/controls done out of love to encourage proper behavior. Abuse is when you do this out of anger or your own lack of self control. I approve of spankings but at that age spankings are not really appropriate or effective, discipline can be done in withholding privileges but should never result in physical abuse of a young girl by her father.

    While as others have stated, only they know what really happened. But I have to say if he choked or punched her that doesn’t sound like discipline to me it sounds like abuse.

  57. How idiotic is this? Ya’ll are talking about condoning a man to hit and choke a 15 year old girl. THAT IS NOT A SPANKING. Have any of you ever been hit and choked by a man, most likely out of anger? PROBABLY NOT. You don’t know if his story is true, all of your comments are completely biased..the youth is this and that…SO. You don’t know that child, and you don’t know what happened…if you feel the need to beat on someone over “possible” back talk then you are not suit to be a parent because you simply do not possess enough self control or patience. It’s funny how it’s almost always Black people accused of beating the mess out of their kids yet they still talk about how bad the kids are….something obviously isn’t working. People need to observe their surroundings more, not to be racist but White people have some of the worst behaving kids i’ve seen, do you see them beating the mess out of their kids all the time or talking about it? NO, yet they somehow magically turn out fine, but not “OUR” youth. I’m not saying let your child run wild, but their is a difference between spanking out of love and beating out of anger…children are not pets, they don’t always behave and they have young developing minds that aren’t going to stay in the little box that you want them to, a lot of grown people don’t act how I want them to act but I don’t tell them to meet me in the street so I can bust their head open. Violence isn’t the solution to everything, violence only leads to harboring hate and retaliation…history and common sense proves this.

  58. I am glad his b**t’s in jail. Your daughter’s 1st impression of a man begins with her father, and if that SOB is beating her, she will have a very difficult time navigating how to pick&chose the right man for her when the time comes. She may chose a BATTERer instead of a nurturing man. To say this is to say, her father was trying to brake her spirit. He lacks discipline, not his daughter. Now his spirit is broken. How does it feel Pastor?

  59. Lastly, it was a party….none of us went to parties when we were young? Personally I went to 1 or 2, didn’t like it and now i’m grown and I don’t party. Do you know what happens to people when they are constantly deprived of something….especially Pastor’s children apparently? They go out and act a fool like they haven’t ever experienced anything because the reins at home were too tight! My prayers go out to that little girl because my father NEVER put his hands on me, I was a daddy’s girl and turned out great. Not even a speeding ticket on my record and I’m in school. May God be with them.

  60. A sad day for this family. WE SHOULD KEEP THEM ALL IN PRAYER.
    FOR FORGIVENESS AND FOR HEALING.
    Having raised 4 kids and taught High School teens for 39 years, I
    never had to resort to Hitting My Child or slapping a pupil.
    It is called self control, being in control of your own emotions
    and then calmly communicating with the teenager. I have 11 grand kids and not one has been slapped or forced to the floor.
    Pray for healing and for JOY to be restored to these folks…

  61. We should not be quick to judge either parent or child. I give the benefit of the doubt to Dr. Dollar. I’m sure he feels remorse for his out-of-character response to his child’s willfulness. Both deserve our prayers and forgiveness. Redemption is available to all.

  62. Right on Phillip. I have always felt that anyone with a name like “Dollar” who claims to be a Pastor, could not be trusted. I don’t know what happened in his home, so I won’t comment on that. But I have always sensed a phoniness in him, Bishop Long and most of the other big time Pulpit Pimps who take advantage of under-educated, misguided, committed folk who give their last “dollar” to the church.

    If you’ve ever met any of these so-called, “Men-Of-God”, usually they have huge ego’s and are anything but normal in their behavior. So, whatever happened in his home was more than likely due to his inflated ego and lack of true relationship with his daughter. If he had a close, solid relationship with her, (other than spoiling her), things may have never progressed to the point where he had to put hands on her. Although she may have deserved a b**t whipping, at 15, its too late. As a person who has mentored thousands of inner-city youth, and have raised my own four daughters, if they have not gotten it (the lessons, the guidance, the standards) by then, that usually means that the parents missed the boat. And knowing how this dude is idolized in his (world) church, I am almost 100% sure that he is “emotionally distant” from his daughter.

    Now, lets see how he handles public scrutiny and adversity, and let the church say, Amen!
    T.B.R

    • Folks sure like to kick a preacher when they think he’s down! Even though King David knew he was anointed to become King and that Saul was to lose the throne and Saul was trying to kill him…he dared not touch the Lords anointed. Only God knows his true anointed.

      1 Chronicles 16:22Saying, Touch not my anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

      FOOLS RUSH IN WHERE ANGELS FEAR TO TREAD!

      2Peter 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the l**t of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

      And despise government – Margin: “dominion.” That is, they regard all government in the state, the church, and the family, as an evil. Advocates for unbridled freedom of all sorts; declaimers on liberty and on the evils of oppression; defenders of what they regard as the rights of injured man, and yet secretly themselves l*****g for the exercise of the very power which they would deny to others – they make no just distinctions about what constitutes true freedom, and in their zeal array themselves against government in all forms. No topic of declamation would be more popular than this, and from none would they hope to secure more followers; for if they could succeed in removing all respect for the just restraints of law, the way would be open for the accomplishment of their own purposes, in setting up a dominion ever the minds of others. It is a common result of such views, that men of this description become impatient of the government of God himself, and seek to throw off all authority, and to live in the unrestrained indulgence of their vicious propensities.

  63. Let’s not miss the point. We can quote scriptures all day about “sparing” the rod. However, a 15 year old female should not be assaulted by her dad or any other male. We’re talking 15 year old–not 5 year old. I’m sure there’s more to this story. It’s amazing how many come to his defense just because he’s a minister. There are other forms of punishment without resorting to violence. Obviously, he doesn’t practice what he preaches.

    • Many people here are not coming to his defense bec he’s a preacher, but bec he’s a FATHER. This has nothing to do with the fact that he’s a minister. She hit him first! YOU are missing the point. If she hit an adult man outside, I’m sure the man would have knocked the c**p out of her, or she would have been hauled off to jail and called a thug by the police.

  64. AMEN ! The Daughter did a our community a very good thing. I hope they lock him up and throw the MF keys away. Another useless PREACHING PIMP, LEADING OUR PEOPLE ASTRAY WITH LIES AND MISINFORMATION AND UNEMPOWERMENT OF OUR PEOPLE. ONLY JOB IS TO MILK THE COMMUNITY IN COMMISSION TICKET SALES TO HEAVEN. GOOD RIDDANCE. MUCH RESPECT TO JEREMIAH WRIGHT !

  65. I think that it should be ENOUGH for a parent to tell a child what they can and can not do. It becomes something else when a child tells YOU the parent what they’re going to do. This is why we have parents, to lead and guide us and to instill in us values and principals, and if he said NO then that’s just what it should’ve been. Apparently she told the Rev what she was going to do. This is why we have so much killing among our black youth. NO DISCIPLINE or RESPECT. If we don’t teach them when they’re young the world will teach them later!

  66. I support Creflo…if the parents dont discipline…the streets dont care

  67. The man was probably frustrated with his daughter.
    She is just the typical teenager who wants to tell her parents what to do .
    I hope he gets out soon.

    Hugh

  68. This is a catch 22…and situation number nine! LOL! @15 yrs old these kids are in a peer pressure position and the father should of handled this better better than he did.
    What needs to happen now is healing and repairing the relationship. I would suggest hiring a 3rd party *(Counseling)* and mend the father/daughter relationship. Its not worth it in the end.

  69. ANd did i read this right ?/ The daughter called the cops?? When was her mother??/

    • I want to know where was TAFFY? If a 15 year old ever made the decision to snap out and disrespect me, I’ll be snapping them back, quick, fast, and in a hurry, ask mine! I didn’t play and still don’t, my parents didn’t spare the rod and neither did I. That’s what the problem is today parents want to be the child’s friend. I don’t care if you ever have friends, cause I am not one of them. Most of the younger parents today are scarred of your children,that comes from trying to be a friend, instead of the parent. As far as the Pastor is concern, you did right , maybe you went to far, but if I was in your shoes when she disrespected me, yes, she would have picked herself up off the floor,old school style. Never once was the mother mentioned, sounds like she couldn’t handle the girl, that’s why the Pastor stepped in. I still want to know where was Taffy, what was she doing, why wasn’t she handling all this mess???

    • Taffy Dollar the mother called the cops…

  70. The bible tell you to train up a child in the way that they should go and when they grown old they would not depart. I am from Trinidad and my parents did not play with me or my sister. All my mother had to do was look at us and we knew to straighten up. Now a days children are so disrespectful and its not for the lack of training. We have to look at the peer pressure. I told my daughter when she was growing up if you call the police wherever they take you there you would stay. Lets pray for our youths today. The problem is that children are having children and can’t handle the responsibility so the let the children rule and control them. Thank God my child is a product of my strict upbringing.

  71. He should have spank her,He take care of her feed,cloth,house and everything!

  72. I feel that what he did was right because these kids today has no respect for their elders nor do they have respect for themselves. The kids today have too much control over their parents because the law has given it them.

  73. SpeakTheTruthInLove

    It’s amazing to me how many people are jumping on the side of this grown man choking his daughter. His 19yr old daughter also submitted a testimony that lines up with what the 15yr old has said. This is very sad news. I would like to see more accountability coming from the Christian (which means Christ-Like) community. As the word says, “Speak the truth in love.” You cannot just jump in total agreement with what he has done because he’s a pastor or because “a teenager may drive you crazy.” This is unacceptable and this young girl can potentially have many long-term psychological and self-esteem effects from this, but no one seems to care. Him behaving like this could even potentially turn her heart away from God and much more. There have been many things in life that have almost driven me crazy, but there is a way to respond that is a solution and there is a way to respond that is a bigger problem. The way he responded here has created a bigger problem for his daughter and everyone involved. You can’t make someone respect you, by trying to make them fear you…this is not true respect and won’t last. I will be praying for both daughters (the one involved and the one who had to witness this madness). I will also be praying for conviction and God’s correction for Creflo.

    It’s also funny how religious people (and I used religious people on purpose instead of Christian which means Christ-like…there’s a big difference.)…but it’s funny how the scripture “spare the rod, spoil the child” is taking as a means for abuse or spanking, but when you look at the 23rd Psalm it says “thy rod and thy staff they convert me”….So was it being said that Jesus beating the h**l out of somebody comforts them? The word rod is used in both scriptures…but rod simply means correction and guidance and there’s MANY ways to correct and guide that are better than violence. Kids will always watch what you do, more than just listening to what you say.

  74. annie williams

    Well,Well,Well. Not knowing what really happen doesn’t really matter. For every action there ia a reaction. Both reacted the wrong way. How did it get to this point.You don’t just wake up one morning and the two pf then act like this. Apparently, effective communication has not been utilized in the pass.For this type of behavior to be displayed, this can’t be the first time. It just got out of hand. Rev. need to back up and learn effective communication with his immediate family. Then preach to others.What roll does the mother play.Is she in the home.Being a single parent , I have never had any trouble out of my daughter. I have always since birth communicated with her, told her right from wrong, answered her “WHY” questions with logical reasoning.Sometime parents are too busy attending to their “church business” and “Sheep of the church” that they forget to
    pay attention the personal business and sheep.It just doesn’t go from NO YOU CAN”T GO TO PARTY, FOLLOWED BY A PUNCH AND A CHOKE.Where is the effective communication fifteen years ago.If you proclaim to be a pastor, then you have to pastor at home as well as at the church, APPROPRIATELY.

    • Sister Annie Williams, many good thoughts here, but YOUR comment is excellent, on Effective Communication. Parents need to reason with and talk with their children. Starting at birth… Talking and holding and rocking those precious babies, solves many a problem when they are 4, 6, 8 10 and teenagers.
      Thank you Annie, and God Bless you…

    • She hit him first. Should he press charges against her? What should be done about a kid who has the gall to assault an adult? Should she be locked up too?

  75. I believe that Reverend Creflo Dollar meant well, I probably would have done the same thing in his situation. The young lady need to realize that she wasn’t buying her clothes, shoes, food etc… Now her allowance will be cut drastically, if she gets anything. I feel like this, if you are my son or daughter and can’t live by my rules, pay your own way and see how that works out.

  76. malcolm sanders

    i dont like creflo dollar anyway he should not touch a kid all of you all made him rich anyway telling you are going to h**l and there is no h**l.

  77. Wow! It’s sad to see so many in support of the pastor’s action. What kind of parent was he to allow his daughter to get to this point anyway? I’m sure she didn’t just sprout horns and start acting this way. Trust me
    being a mother of 4 (3) girls, I know the challenges but really? No his actions are unacceptable!

  78. annie williams

    Rev look very sad on his picture following the arrest.Like old people sad BEND THE TREE WHILE IT IS YOUNG OR YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO BEND IT WHEN IT IS MUCH OLDER.Bending the tree doesn’t mean just whipping children. It includes much more,such as showing true love and with things but with yourself and spending quality time with your children.

  79. To Mr Dollars I say, you of all people know better, no matter what she said or did short of death, should you put your hands on her and she’s your daughter! Now you have set the stage for other men to beat and choke her just like her father beat and choked her. Then we want to blame it on the children . We have too many options to handle that situation. Now I wonder how many times you have beat your wife! This is the young woman that will bare your grandchildren some day. I pray that she can get over this but for you sir, you’re a scrumb in my book. How many other women have you beaten and choked because they didn’t agree with you? As a father and grandfather, 65 years old, I have never had to beat or choke any of my children or grandchildren, we have been able to talk it out and I didn’t win all the time, peace in my home is far better than who’s right or wrong. Step up and be a man. Stick around its coming back to you in away that will wish a thousand times how big a fool you were. To you I say man up, I have friends in prison that would love to get their hands on you. Twenty odd years in the Army to hear of a man beating his daughter over a stupid party. Sad world we live in.

    • What should be done about this girl who had to gall to strike a grown man? would she have gotten away with this behavior on the street?? Can a child abuse and assault their parent?? Can a kid walk outside and assault a man she meets on the street?? What the heck do you think would happen if she did that??

  80. If you are not raising a teenager in this day and time you wouldn’t understand. These kids will test you and push you to the limits. I’m sure this is not the first time she pushed the envelop. If my child disrespected me I would get arrested too. Get all the facts before judging.

  81. i think that pastor dollar took control of the situation, i don’t believe that he choked the girl.anyone 15 or 50 does not strike their parents…..HANDLE YOUR BUSSINESS PASTOR DOLLAR AND CONTROL YOUR HOUSEHOLD, I STAND WITH YOU……IF THE GIRL CAN NOT FOLLOW HER FATHER’S RULES MAYBE SHE SHOULD FIND OTHER LODGING, LIKE A BOARDING SCHOOL

  82. Maxine Caldwell

    Thanks for being a good dad. Young people think that they should do what they want to do regardless of what the parent says. To many kids need a wake up call, they don’t run nothing. I believe that whatever happen that you was right, she needed to know who runs the household, and it is because of you and God that she lives a nice lifestyle that all of us wish we could give our kids. HAPPY FATHER’S DAY.

  83. Mary, I agree with you. I don’t agree with his actions and I do not believe that hitting a child makes things better. If anything, it makes children aggressive and angry. There is another line of discipline needed, but I do not believe that capital punishment is a means to chastise any child. The girl was wrong, but so was her father. And at any rate, he is now paying the consequences behind assaulting his daughter.

    • Why are you and everyone who feels the way you do ignoring the fact that this “child” had the GALL to assault her father?? Should he have her locked up?? You have said NOTHING about how wrong it is for a child to hit their parent!

  84. If I were him she couldn’t come back to my home. I’d send her away to boarding school. She called the police on him knowing who her father is and how much harm to his reputation and negative attention would come to him and didn’t care. It seems to me that things would not have escalated if she’d been respectful enough to listen to what he was saying instead of being disobedient in the first place. I’m not saying I agree with what he did but he was correct in not allowing a child to disrespect him and run his home. And if the report is true that she put her hands on him first she should be glad he didn’t kill her. She’d have to go if she were mine.

    • you are right; however this incident did not begin yesterday and
      take place within 12 hours! This relationship/ love/ respect/
      and way of communication, started 12+ years ago.
      could it be the Pastor did not do his Pastoring at home?
      I’m praying for a Touch of the Holy Spirit in these lives and in
      this home… Will you join me in prayer?

  85. Parenting is awesome responsibility, I’m not going to second guess what he did. But the devil will use anything or anybody to seek to destory this man’s character. If you discredit the shepard then the sheep will scatter and be devour by the wolves. A sign of the times.

  86. Some of these commentators are the reason why some children become delinquent and blight their lives.A child is disrespectful verbally and or attacks physically.What is one to do as a parent? Stand there and allow the child to continue the attack with impunity? That same child would not go out on the street and do the same thing to a European cop because they know that they would either end up being beaten severely and locked up or end up dead with the cop saying he was attacked and he was standing his ground.You no-good rubbish stupid people who are supporting this girl’s behaviour I want some child,whether your own or not to dis-respect and attack you the same way as this child did and you will see and feel how wise you are in condemning the pastor.There must be respect for one’s parents and children must be disciplined verbally and or physically when necessary.If I was the pastor she would have to find somewhere else to live and a good place would be with the police she called to arrest and jail her father.She must feel the consequences of her evil act.

    • Thank you!!

    • True. I have a mother who would never be tolerant of any kind of disrespect from any of her children. Good of you to correct these no-good people. I watched a crime documentary two days ago where this 16 y.o. Afrikan child from the USA murdered his father because the father refused to purchase a brand new car from him and bought instead a used one. Afrikan children are now doing what used to be the domain of the European society; murdering their parents. It was good for Pastor Dollar to stand his ground with her and I hope she learns a lesson.

  87. Sis Sandra Kendell

    It is sad and Rev.Dollars expression says it all. I regret that he has experienced this everyday occurance “publickly”. The church still stands behind him 100% however, it’s not the church’s nor the public/worlds problem to contend with rather ultimately it is Mr.Dollars problem and tho we all may pray the situation through I am convinced that outward actions are cries for help of issues far greater than the issue on the table. It’s not the presentation or the actual meal that tasted fowl it was utlimately the ingredient that went in the preparation of the meal. Our Father loves us (God) and HE will correct and chastise us even if it means exposing us!God bless the Dollar family and may Our Father continue working in their lives,His church, and the Creflo Dollar ministry…..(CLERGY ARE HUMAN AND CERTAINLY NOT EXEMPT FROM “THE LAW”.)Remain prayerful church.

  88. MILFORD wOODARD

    This is an opportunity for HATERS to spew negative comments. I have four daughters, the oldest said something to her Mother, I got her with two belts. I really never had to do that again to any of them. I started them out with, who is who. like anyone, if you let them get away with something, they will come back with more. As they say, and it is true, nip it in the but early, don’t try after they are two years old.

  89. Dr Creflo spoiled his girls. I remember he said in one of his sermons he would take them on dates to show them what to expect from a man on a date. He set high standards. Its hard to be a preacher’s kid but rebellion cannot be tolerated when it become’s physical, he was trying to protect her. Based on his sermons if it was a party that he thought was okay she probably would have been driven their in a limo. Pray for the family that they reconcile quickly.

    • Jim I appreciate that & u r so right…. People need to think & stop throwing stone when we all live in glass houses

  90. The Old Folks jad a saying when a young teenager started talking back, misbehaving, or acting sassy. They would quietly observe aloud, “Now that one is starting to smell hisself!” (If it was a girl they would say herself.)After making such an observation it would not be long before a sizeable belt or thick ample strap would appear and get into action on somebodies behind. The old folks were highly skilled at this form of direct physical counseling so much so that the teenager would be so busy trying to get out the way of that flying buzz saw strap or belt that they would have precious little time to get aggressive themselves. When the session was over (generally when the parent was completely exhausted), the poor child would have had his/her attitude re-adjusted; and the abundant flow of remorseful tears would be guaranteed evidence that in the immediate future sweet delightful peace would be holding forth in that family once again.

  91. I’ve tried my hardest to take the time to review as many comments as I could to respect the thoughts of this thread. We are all critics of other people’s lives. Critics rarely write about themselves or uncover their own bones. You would think by now with media freenzy that we would have learned our lessons about passing judgement from the key board. Whatever happened was not the family’s best moment.

    As a wife and mother of three; including a 16 year-old daughter, I have learned a lot of lessons and to take pauses before making decisions. I have made unfortunate mistakes as a human being and I have learned lifelong lessons in the process. Please know that the 15 year-old is the priority but she too is responsible for her role. God knows that parents are clearly responsible for their choices. So let’s promote family and not sides. That child still needs her family in tact so she can continue to grow in a healthy manner. Shalom!

  92. I agree with the pastor, we as parents have every right to try & save our children lives. To the person that said if she was raise right they wouldn’t be going through that that is a lie, children are all out of control period & something needs to be done…. I will not tolerate disrespect & I appreciate the pastor standing his ground because I would do the same I have 8 & I be d**n if mine going to put their hands on me. & get away with it…. What happened to spear the rod spoil the child…. Ijs

  93. He really didn’t hurt her, she was just surprise that he said no and she became dispectful to him. If the parents don’t take a upper hand in a matter,your kids will hurt or kill you.

  94. This is not a virtuous moment for Creflo Dollar. On the contrary, it is an eruption of his darker side exploding into the public sphere.

    Beating and knocking a 15 year-old girl to the floor is CHILD ABUSE!!! He should be locked up, made to appear before a judge just like any other child abuser, and receive the appropriate punishment. An exception should not be made for him because he is a public figure or clergyman. Moreover, I do not believe that she hit her father first!!! That sounds like a desperate lie. Doesn’t the Bible say, somewhere, “THOU SHALL NOT LIE!!”

    This is horrendous, and should not be used as an example for how men should communicate with their daughters. This is even the more tragic because this is a religious figure who is putting himself forth as a spiritual leader.

    • Beating her and knocking her to the floor is putting a child that physically struck you in her place. Period. The child is not equal to the parent.

  95. You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. The police can’t beat the c**p our if them when they feel disrespected but the parent can’t put a foot in their tail to help steer them straight. Yea something is definitely wrong with that picture. Anyone with common sense knows the difference from abuse and as long as the government continues to meddle in the of our children, they’ll become even more disrespectful and defiant.

  96. IF SHE HIT HIM! OH she had to be stopped; don’t know abt choking though….at 15 when my dad said not going to a party, that was that
    no discussion…when we (my 2 brothers, & sister) were coming up my dad had 2 bed slats and he wailed on ur behind and back of your legs…i didnt want that so he only said something to me ONE TIME but my sister however…hated it for her…cldnt keep her mouth shut!!! Now im sure there was lots of child abuse going on back then; and i’ve
    always said there’s a fine line betw abuse/discipline, after all the
    bible says spare the rod’spoil the child and back then children were rarely out of order; WHY, in part because n’bors friends, family, teachers weighed in as well….But Taffey must not have been there….

  97. ONLY IN AMERICA! ANYONE FROM THE EGNLISH SPEAKING CARIBBEAN KNOW VERY WELL WHAT WE DO WHEN OUR CHILDREN DISRESPECT US. WE WAIT TIL SUMMER OR SOME OTHER HOLIDAY WHEN SCHOOL IS OUT, WE TAKE THEM DOWN TO THE ISLANDS AND GIVE THEM A GOOD ‘HIDING’. If they don’t learn from that one time, trust me there will be another year for ‘VACATION’!

  98. What it all boils down to, none of us was there to know what really happened…. I know as a parent, I am not going to allow my child to disrespect me, I am their parent, not their peer. He who is without sin cast the first stone….I see small kids disrespecting their parents, and I want to discipline them…what is the world coming to? There were plenty of times when I was younger, that I wanted to go hang out with my friends and my parents told me no, I wish I would have said something back to them, I would have gotten the taste slapped out of my mouth…lol

  99. I SAY LET THE STATE RAISE THEM..OH WAIT THEY ARE..THE PRISONS.

  100. It is hard being a teenager today and especially one that is the daughter of Creflo Dollar. It is not easy, when you say no to these
    16 years, they think they are grown, REMEMBER WHEN? Hopefully they can work through this. I can not image what it is like to be a Pastors daughter. There is a standard being the First family and she wants to just a regular teenager. My advice to Rev. Dollar, trust the Lord, trust what you have instilled in your daughter, if she strays, she will come back.

  101. If you cant live by my rules you cant live in my house Period. Emancipate her a*s and then she can do whatever she wants when she wants. I preached this to mine from day one. She’ll learn it maybe the hard way but she will learn then. Promise you that…….

  102. Where was momma during all of this drama. For a father to resort to what Pastor Dollar supposedly did then this more than likely is not the first confrontation between father and daughter. He sought the respect of his child that obviously was raised spoiled when we view his financial status, but then behind closed doors he may have been a tyrant because he had to keep up the appearance that all is well in his household. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God, for we are all human. Teen-age children will make you snap and daddys with teen-age daughters knows men, teens and adult ones, and what thoughts goes through a fathers mind once they reach that age even though she will say “daddy I’ll be alright”, but he knows someone is rubbing their hands together.

  103. I am 64 years of age and have raised 3 children. My children are very respectful. It’s because I raised them the way my parents raised me. Things have changed so much in society and younger generation parents are financially and materialistically giving to compensate for being “real parents.” Each child is different and you need to study your children and really know each one. They have different needs. Mr. Dollar probably snapped. She’s blessed that she is still here and and that’s as bad as it got. She is 15 years old and what gives her the right to tell a parent who is paying her bills, has a roof over her head and probably has her own car, tell her father what she’s going to do and what she isn’t going to do. Somewhere down the line she has lost respect for her household, other siblings, and her parents. As the old term goes, “she’s smelling herself.” Mr. Dollar, being a man of God is seeing this. People, don’t think this is the first time that he has has problems with this child. Right now, we need to pray for that family and this daughter because Satan is all up in this. I live in Georgia and my children and grandchildren live in California. I came here to retire, however, if something is going on wrong and crazy back home, we get together by telephone and I am on the speaker and we discuss and pray and if we can’t agree, I TELL them what’s going to happen, and IT IS! You should love your kids and they should love you so much that the trust and respect is there that as my mother used to say (rip mommy) “YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RULE YOUR KIDS FROM YOUR DEATH BED.” Rule may not be the proper word, but you get it. While raising kids these days the main things are GOD/PRAYER, LOVE, COMMUNICATION, TRUST, RESPECT, LOTS OF LAUGHTER AND FUN. Even with the negative media, talk about it and let your kids know that is not real living, so don’t even try it. They get paid to act a fool. When are children live in a free drama home, believe me they don’t return drama at home, they leave it in the streets. I guess, with all this, I’m saying try not to snap, even though we as parents and grandparents have so much stress on us, and the kids too with all the pressure from outside forces. Let’s all pray and start communicating more with or young people. BE BLESSED

  104. THE WORD OF GOD SAYS “BEAT” the unrully child. NOW THAT’S A STRONG WORD. AMAZINGLY, WE NEVER HAVE TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO DO THE WRONG THINGS… WE ONLY HAVE TO TEACH THEM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. PROVES THAT THE NATURE OF MAN GRAVITATES TO WRONG. BTA… old skool style.

  105. Terry Williams

    I know most do not agree with each other, but I was raise right, but thought at a certain I was grown, but now everyone that was trying to help me was right about how the world can change you. I have six children ranging from 46 yrs old to 32 yrs old. and I kept my foot on their neck as old people use to say. I learn from those mistakes and tried to instill my children to watch out for the pit falls. I am like shouting John have not be to jail house or the grave yard yet. My 45 yr old son’s last whipping he received from me he was 29 yrs old., see when raised up at me talk down into my face like I was a woman off the street, well let’s say the words that I said to him was not the word of God. I took off my earings turn back around with a upcut and knock him through the screen door of my ex mother-in-law’s house. My son mommy you almost killed me and my reply was yes, because when came up to me like man off the street and not like my son then my only step was to whip you like a woman off this streets and my son stand 6’5” and I am 5’5″ tall. See, God thought enough of me to be a parent and he knew that I would watch over them like he watch over me. So, dontbeafool whipped my children and I have four degrees and two that own businesses, I am not saying it was easy raising them it was, but even though their father and I was no longer married we stood as a united front. Now, this generation is different therefore different tactics, but still the rod should be in place (spare the rod spoil the child). To those agree or disgree with me have a blessed weekend

  106. THE PEOPLE DON’T CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO JAIL THEN GO, MAYBE IT WILL KEEP THERE NON RESPECTING SELF IN LINE.THEY WILL THANK YOU WHEN THERE OLDER…… KICK THAT A************* NOW!!!!!!!!

  107. The Pastor was not wrong to prevent a 15 year old child from going to a party he perceived to be a dangerous place for his child to be. However, he may have allowed his parental emotions to get the better of him and his daughter’s disrespect compounded the mishap. Although a man of the cloth he is still a man, the historical apostles made many mistakes in their daily lives even if the son of G-D was a finger away from them.The most important thing to know is that a 15 year old man or woman cannot be expected to think like A 30 year old. Parents must take a stand its their duty. Having said that when a child is raised with love and taught the human consequence of poor decisions and choices then most of the time the disconnect does not occur too frequently, but sometimes it does, its very tough and troublesome for any parent to deal with. Regarding the law its at the root of all the incarceration of young black, Latin, men an women in the USA. The pastor needs counselling together with the 15 year old CHILD. LASTLY THE DEVIL IS REAL AND ALIVE AND THE CITIES ARE HIS STRONGHOLD.BE-AWARE

  108. I can understand him trying to discipline her but i do not agree with the way he beat her. Coming from a family that disciplined the s**t out of me that i still remember to this day, i would not say my father went as far as doing this to make his point clear. Aside from the fact that she is his daughter, she is also a girl, and when the h**l has it been okay for a man to hit a woman? Or does the so called rule change now because she’s his daughter? NO! It shouldn’t. I do not condone her disrespecting her father, however there was a better way of going about it, not beating her in the manner he did. Furthermore, the same bible he reads says, “spare the rod and spoil the child”, but it does not say “use the rod to kill the child”.

  109. I think some of the readers are missing the point. Let her go to the party or not. Rules of his house are….we as parents can not allow or children to dictate what they are and are nt going to do. What rules they are going to follow and what they don’t feel they have to. When we, as parents give up that leadership authority, well can you imagine what will happen to our society….. Ooops, what am I saying, in so many instances we have.. God is with you paster Dollar, stay true and strong in Gods word and his law.

  110. Wher was the mother?

  111. Creflo did the correct thing: 15 and going to a party at 1am in the morning? Man, when I was 17 yrs old I had to be in the house by midnight, No matter how much pleading to my Dad (my Mom had died of cancer) he told me as long as I lived in HIS house, ate HIS food, drove HIS cars, I must RESPECT HIS rules or get out. After high school at 18 I joined the Army and went to Germany. When I got there and lived on my own I realized the HOME-TRAINING he and my Mom gave me and to this day I have never even been arrested for anything, not even a driving violation! I raised my own 3 children as I was raised they’re 31, 27, and 26 and have never been arrested either. Even though me and their mother divorced in 2003 I communicate with my children constantly and tell them I Love them and they recipricate. Again, Creflo did the correct thing, he practiced what he preached. To that I say AMEN Creflo.

  112. Thomas Clemons

    You never allow a child to dictate to the parent and one needs to bring back the ole school and whip a child’s behind.

  113. I’m with AMELIA & ASAR. It’s disgraceful, a man is snatched off the pulpit for discipline. SINCE WHEN DID AN OLD FASHION *SS WHIPPIN’ become so illegal a parent is arrested? That’s what’s wrong today. Kids pop off at the mouth and parents have no recourse? Time out my *ss.

    NEWSFLASH: Some things need removal like reality shows, when kids watch the Kartrashian’s speak to their parents then try that in the BLACK PASTOR’S HOUSE – NOT. Pastor Dollar- Keep your head up, you were probably right, many CHILDREN ARE MISSING / ABDUCTED, SEXUALLY ENSLAVED OR WORSE from sneaking out when he only protected her. This NEW world makes me sick.

    BRING BACK THE BELT
    BRING BACK THE BELT
    BRING BACK THE d**n BELT! TEAM DOLLAR

  114. If she had gone out against her faters wishes and crashed into someone while drunk, then they would blame him for not taking responsibility for his child. When he does try to take responsibility, he goes to jail. what is a parent to do? These fast b*****s think they know everything at 15.

  115. He spanked her and that’s the bottom line. That’s his child and he’s the parent. He should not have been arrested for anything. The Crime here is the law and the manner in which they gave the superior position to the child. We are forced to act like children while the courts serve as Parent and safe keeper of the wrong doer. If we allow this form of justice to continue , children will feel enpowerd by those dictating the social change. Spare the rode ,spoil the child.

  116. That girl probably sees and hears the hypocrisy in full
    effect in that home. That’s why she has no
    respect for her father’s word.

  117. What’s the kids name Penny, was he trying to make some change, You can’t make change of a Penny, Whoooo, whooo, sometimes I crack myself up.

  118. With the police arresting Mr. Dollar, this child thinks it’s okay to act, out toward her father, who new what was right for her at this particular time. There could have been unforeseeable dangers at this party that she was so eagerly and desperately to get too, that she would disrespect and raise a had @ her father. Now a days you have parents that kill their children, but this man and his wife raised this child, protected, provided, kept her in good health giving her the best chances at life and she still living to tell about it. I pray for his daughter and him ….. message to his daughter. Some no longer have that father as the protector, provider and just a safe haven…. love (honor) and respect (obey) him at all times for this is God’s law.

  119. The American population is growing more insane by the day. Pay close attention to everything and everyone around you. If you still can’t see it, then you are truly living in your own fantasy!

  120. Pastor, Dollar I am Praying for you and Pastor, Taffi, along with your Family!!!

    Will not Judge Pastor, Dollar, John 7:24 “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement.”

    Who in there Right Mind would let there Child go to a Party at 0100 in the Morning, it is very DISRESPECTFUL for a CHILD to even asked a PARENT to go any where at that time of MORNING,

    Pastor, Dollare LOVES all the Kids to much to HURT them, I do not believe the RePORT, of PASTOR, DOLLAR BEATING HIS DAUGHTER,

    WE ALL NEED TO PRAY FOR PASTOR, DOLLAR, and all other PASTOR’S and people of the WORLD, lets not be so QUICK to JUMP on the BAND WAGON, of WRONG DOING,

    HOW many of you all on this BOARD will let your CHILD go any where at 0100 in the Morning???

    The BENTLEY’S, JETS, all was GIFTS from other PREACHERS, if we was Spreading the GOSPEL {THE GOOD NEWS} all over the WORLD, someone would Bless you with JET, BENTLEY,

    GOD did it for PASTOR, DOLLAR, GOD IS Obligated to do the same for YOU, GOD IS NOT A RESPECTOR of PERSON, GOD IS OBLIGATED TO DO THE SAME FOR ANYONE ELSE on this BOARD,

    As a PEOPLE, we all need to come together and PRAY, for PEOPLE and not just COMPLAIN, until then all CONTINUE BLESSED!!!

    • Thank you for that important reminder. I will definitely pray for them everyday. That’s the very best thing we can do if we believe in Gad and family.

  121. I don’t care whether Creflo Dollar is a preacher or not. Spare the rod, spoil the child means give the child guidance and correction, NOT beat them! You have to start out the way you mean to go. My 18 year old son has respected me from day 1 and when he has tested the rules (like all kids will) I was consistent with the discipline (not spanking, not beating). I just raise my eyebrow and he knows he is getting close and he changes his behavior. I get compliments all the time about how well behaved he is and how respectful he is and I have been a single mother since day 1.

    More important — it is never okay for a grown man to wrestle a female to the floor and choke her in order to control her (remember the police found marks on her neck). I worked in child protection for many years and the rule of the court was if there was physical evidence of abuse that could not be reasonably explained in any other way the parent had stepped out of line. In this state Creflo Dollar would minimally be charged with risk of injury to a minor. Remember this is a CHILD BEING CHOKED BY A GROWN MAN! The act of choking is not a spanking it is tantamount to attempting to make someone fear for their life. No one has the right to do that to another person unless they are fighting for their own life! THIS MAN WAS OUT OF ORDER! THE SPIRIT OF THE PROPHET IS SUBJECT TOT HE PROPHET. THIS MAN LOST ALL SENSE OF CONTROL !

    People have asked where was the mother? From my experience when the child is being abused by one parent with anger control problems, the spouse is usually getting controlled by fear and violence too!

    I wonder how many bruises his wife has hidden or has tried to explain away.

    • Got that right!

    • Apparently you don’t understand how the system works. In America today, it is spare the child so we can lock them up and keep the criminal industrial complex workers employed. Not on Creflo’s watch.

  122. What he did was abusive. No man, father or boyfriend, should put his hands on a woman. I was raised by a man who walked with a Bible in his hands, always preaching, and behind closed doors he was an abusive father and husband. Yet, he was protected by church members because he had a good talk. Pastors mess up too and have to be held accountable for their actions.

    My husband and I raised our children without abusing them. Not one turned out bad or has a criminal record. There is always an alternative to abuse.

  123. YO PEOPLE LAWD

    NO CHILD DESERVES THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT. I am surprised that some people above can commend this man for those actions against his daughter. Even if this daughter angered him, he still had ALTERNATIVE and APPROPRIATE WAYS TO RESPOND to where he would not have his CHRISTIAN a*s UP IN JAIL. Being a Good Parent does not mean that your child will not challenge you nor disappoint you. Yet even when they do, a good parent would want to role model at all times just how they would like their child to be treated by others. A father jumping on top of his 15 year old daughter and beating her… is some stupid ghetto and criminal s**t. He needed to go to jail. If she said something disrespectful, he could have corrected her and invited her a*s to go find a better place to live where she could pay her own bills; gotten firm with her and expressed his displeasure over her words or offered to take her to a juvenile detention center. THERE IS TRULLY MORE GOING ON THIS THIS STORY… believe me. I AM RELATED TO CLEFO’s FAMILY. His daughter is not a badd child at all. His daughter most likely checked that EGO OF HIS and HE FELL APART. I am gladd she had the courage to call the police. Now how would his a*s feel if later in life his daughter is married to a man and that man jumps on his daughter and beats her with a SHOE because she disrespected him? WAKE UP PEOPLE— YOU CHRISTIANS ARE A DAYUM MESS… well some of you. lol

  124. HONESTLY. I am so happy my child did NOT call the police on me when I canned him with the back scratcher. We have always been told not to discipline our children when we are mad. Creflo went way too far in his discipline and this hurts his character…where was Taffi when all of this was happening. If Creflo was upstanding at home none of this would have EVER happened. I have beaten my child and this year my child graduated with HONORS and has a college scholarship.

  125. SHE HAS A MOM…. THATS NOT A MAN JOB TO PUT HIS HANDS ON HER

  126. SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD.
    Social engineers and social scientists are are tellingb us parents that our kids should not be spanked. That’s BS maybe someone needs to spank their A–.

    • Yes, and it’s these same social scientists that are using psychological tactics to destroy our communities.

  127. SHE NEEDED HER FAST LITTLE a*s KICKED. GOOD FOR YOU MR. DOLLAR, THESE DAM KIDS ARE OUT OF CONTROL. THANKS TO THE LAW. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP I GOT AM a*s SPANKED WHEN NEEDED AND IT DID NOT KILL ME, IT MADE ME A BETTER WOMAN. CHILDREN ARE NOW KILLING THEIR PARENT, EACH OTHER. I WOULD HAVE KICKED HER a*s AS WELL. WE AS PARENT DO AND GIVE OUR CHILDRE THE BEST THAT WE CAN AND WHAT DO WE GET IN RETURN IS A OUT OF CONTROL MESS, JUST LOOK AROUND YOU CAN SEE IT EVERY WHERE. AND IT IS GOING TO GET WORST. YES, YES KICK HER a*s.

  128. Well, well, what have we here another PIMP, is in trouble. God have a way of showing and exposing these criminals who are making money by PIMPING HIM.I wish you and your daughter would kill each other so we would only have to read about your demise once.
    Obviously you daughter is just like you as they says chip do not fall too far from the roots.Hopefully we wont be seeing you for a while.
    Your daughter sound like a GHETTO TRASH, she may be 15, but she is showing us that all she is is trash, and all the money you pimp other for will not make into a LADY.

  129. If Creflo had jumped on a stranger and wrestled the stranger to the floor and choked them he would be arrested for assault and battery. If he did the same thing to a random child, we would all be saying this man had lost his mind and want to put him under the jail!

    Why is it okay for him to do the same thing to his child? Children are human, they are not property!

    I am 5 ft 3 inches tall, my grown muscular 200 lb son knows the rules and knows he will be disciplined — no car, no computer, no cell phone, etc. That really hits where it hurts. You start when they are young by saying no and not allowing them to backtalk or argue with you unless they want to face the consequences of lost privileges. He used to put himself in time out when he was 4 years old.

    And yes, I am black and was raised by Caribbean parents who did not beat me. They had been beaten when they were kids and believed that it made no sense. They talked to me and my brother, but at the end of the day we knew they were the parents and in charge.

  130. I agree with Pastor Dollar for disciplining his daughter. You’re a child and you’re supposed to honor your mother and father. When you don’t you’re cutting your days off. She yielded her members over to the “DEVIL” and he used her big time. Whomever you yield your members to, that’s who you become the servant of. Pastor Dollar should’ve rebuked that spirit and cast it back to h**l in Jesus’ name.

  131. YO PEOPLE LAWD

    a FATEHR CHOKING HIS DAUGHTER AND BEATING HER WITH A SHOE IS SOME PUNK a*s s**t. SOUNDS LIKE HE GOT SOME ISSUES WITH WOMEN OR WITH TAFFI AND MAY HAVE TAKEN IT OUT ON HIS DAUGHTER. THE POLICE SHOULD HAVE CHOKED HIS a*s AND BEAT HIM WITH A SHOE. THEN HE COULD PRAY ABOUT IT AND FORGIVE THEM LATER, LIKE A GOOD CHRISTIAN.

  132. Rev. Creflo Dollar, did the right thing, and he should not have been arrested period. When you raise a Black child, you are dealing with a strong minded, strong will, and physically strong individual. You better know what you are doing, because in this day and time, as a parent you better take them down before they take you down.

    Some parents are afraid of their own children, and I have heard other people’s children call them the B-word, and other names that was not kind. I am a strong Black Woman, who raised two strong Black young men, my son’s ages are 37 and 29. For real it takes a strong Black Woman to raise strong Black Men.

    I am thankful that I didn’t have any girls, because I probably would be in jail for smacking her across the mouth. I worked with children from the ages of 12-18, and these sweet little darlings have a mouth on them, believe me I have experienced it first hand as a Counselor.

    If you have not been in a situation or experienced, any kind of negative behavior from your child, you ought to be very thankful, but if you have a teenager wait it’s coming. When teenagers get around other teens and your child is nice and all this, you better believe they are learning how to be BAD, you just haven’t experienced it yet.

    I told my sons, when they came out with the 911 mess, I told them as a single mother, I pay the rent here, if they ever called the Police on me, they better hope the Police keep them, because they can’t come back and live with me, and I meant that. Parents are not always right and neither are the children.

    I grew up on the scene in the 70′s, the saying was “Children are to be seen and not heard”, you didn’t talk back and you bet not roll your eyes, or act like you wanted to say something smart, whatever you was told to do, you did it promptly, my Mama didn’t play. I love my Mama today for the strong upbringing I received with love. MORE POWER TO THE PARENTS!!!!!!

    Love Tracy

    • YO PEOPLE LAWD

      Thank god you were not the parent of girls as well Tracy. LOL. The world is a much better place.

    • Tracy, worked also with teens in H.S for 39 years. you are so on target and well said. Bottom Line: show love and respect and then communicating and talking together will work. but parents need to take the time to listen and advise. My four are now adults and have turned out very well… Bless you!

    • TRACY i grew up in the 70′s also and raised like you. i had enough swtichings to learn to be respectful and to do as i was told.

      i know this that tough love needs to be a part of these two girls near future as they have not appreciated all that daddies life work has brought them.

      i hope he cuts off all the money after the trial if they don’t change their ways and the girls friends should put a young lashing on them for being agents of the devil.

      they need to be ashamed of themselves- i wish i could be a fly on the wall

  133. Always two sides to every story and the law these days seem to side with the youngster and not the adults. The few bad parents out there have made it hard for the responsible ones to get any respect or control over their children. This child was given the choice between doing what’s right and wrong and she chose the latter and suffered the consequences. That’s life and the sooner some of these spoiled kids realize this, the better off they’ll be. As for children being inherently good, I would challenge that notion. You can’t expect a child to naturally know what’s right and what’s wrong. That’s just like assuming that a four year instinctively knows not to touch a hot burner on a stove. That’s why the Lord gives parents, at least the good ones, the responsibility to set boundaries for their children. Without doing so, is like giving the environment and this messed up society direct access to influence them. If you want to see example of how that turns out, then just look at men and women that occupy our prisons.

  134. tiffiney oliver

    There is no bluebook on how to parent a child but one thing is for sure, no child of mine ever tried that mess. Now the law will require that he allows her back in the home until she turn 18. How about they find somewhere for her to stay since they decide how we handle them being derespectful in our homes. WAY TO GO, PASTOR DOLLAR, SHE IS A CHILD AND SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN A CHILDS PLACE. Now take her phone since she misused it.

  135. Raise up a child in the way that he should go, and when is older they wllL never depart, PROBVERBS

  136. I got whippings till I was 16, did I like it? No, Am I better because of it h**l YES. My two sons got whipped too. The one who got the most is a stand up citizen, the baby not so much, wish I had whipped him more. Parents do what you gotta do

  137. i really dont think he tried to kill her. whatever took place she survived it. see one of the many things thats messed up with the system is not being able to chestise a child in a situation like this, but its ok for a police to beat the c**p outa your kid and nothing gets done. so i think the girl did disrespect her father over a party. at 15? then when you hear on the news 15 yr old daughter of pastor creflo dollar gunned down at party, everyone is gonna be on his back talkn, why would he let his 15 yr ol daughter go to a party ina first place….. right? he shoulda beat her azz threw her in her room and locked the door. thats it thats all”

  138. Ms. Alexis, I know that’s right!. I wish anyone of my 4 when they were young and now that they are adults who even think of raising a hand to me. They will draw back a numb!!

    I support Dr. Dollar in this situation.

    If his daughter wants to be disrespectful to her father, she can get out and take care of herself.

  139. What do you think would happen if she slapped the policeman tried wrestling them to the floor? How many times would she have been tasered??? Think about it…Think about it young folks…

  140. Ms. SpeaktheTruthinLove you need to quit. This has nothing to do with Religion. This is about a man whether Christian or not, HEADING his household. If his daughter hit him out of anger because she could not have her way, he should have knocked her under the bed. That is about what would happen if a child of mine would hit me. I am positive this man loves his family and would do anything that would do obvious harm to her. If she received a scratch on her, so be it. Let it be a reminder that she is to honor her parents. See if you had some Discernment and knew the kind of day we as Christians are living in, you would no that this incident is SOLELY being used to promote negativity and judgement on his Ministry. To cast doubt to his church members. To add divide to Kingdom of GOD. As I Christian I also know this will not work, in Jesus name.

  141. Fifteen and you are going to slap your dad for not allowing you to go to a party!!!??? FIFTEEN??? I tell you if the police tells her to do something, anything, and she slaps one of them, she would be one bruised child and ther would be nothing her dad could do about it. I hope she does not think the policeman are her friends.

    • OMG, Martha, I have made a lot of comments, but YOUR POST IS ONE OF THE BEST!
      You have made an EXCELLENT point!! The police are NOT THEIR FRIENDS!!!

  142. You quarrel and argue with them when they are children…because you think you know it all and they know nothing yet; that you have to bring them up in the proper way so they don’t exhibit disrespectfulness when they are out. When they grow up into teens where they think they know much and want to assert themselves by arguing with you and talking back, you forget you taught them to be quarrelsome, and you feel helpless and infuriated you want to hit them to bring them to order. Children are complex and you need to grow up yourself in bringing them up. You’re better off not hitting them in their teens. WHY? Because it’s most often too late to make much difference then.

  143. As a father, I agree with Dollar we must be able to discipline our children with out the government interference. In Ga parents can discipline, however, there is a thin line between discipline and abuse!!!

  144. You can teach your children from day one! You can live an appropriate life before your children. You can reason with your children.
    Our society has flipped the script.
    Kids have been given all the rights by us the adults through the legislation.

    There are many outside influences: peers, TV, videos programs, celebrities, etc.

    Discipline has really changed: time-out, counting to 3, taking away privileges, no spanking, don’t tell your child no……

    While the Bible is clear, training up a child.

  145. Creflo Dollar…as a parent…how out of control and consumed with anger must you have been to PUNCH and CHOKE your own daughter. A girl. You are the father, a man, hitting your daughter, a young woman. How much bigger and stronger are you than her? The responsibility lays with the parents. If your child makes you that angry then the bible says “take your leave” until cooler heads provide. Up there on the podium preaching to others about how to live their lives according to Lord and you do something like this. Shameful. But, we all makes mistakes. No one on this earth is perfect. Re-kindle and mend your relationship with your daughter Pastor Creflo Dollar. Do the right thing.

    • Princess P. Your living in a dream world… What planet do you come from that would allow a child to rule the father… This is precisely why our youth are going to pot as we speak… Are you saying you would let your child smack the c**p out of you in your house and you would simply walk away with your child’s IPad and car keys and hope that when she goes to the party nothing bad happens… WAKE UP! I would have smacked the c**p out of her… He obviously never punched her at least if he did it wasn’t a real punch. trust me If he would have punched her she would have far more than a few scratches on her body…

  146. He should not have kicked or punched her, but she should not have hit him.Its sad, because apparently he’s a man who has suppoeted his family from the onset. Our society interferes with families, but they don’t care for our children. I hope that the family heals.

  147. I’m all for disciplining a child but y’all sound ridiculous! He was arrested for choking and punching her!!! Not a spanking or b**t whooping…I guess Christians love to interpret the bible any way they see fit …smh!! lord help us!

    Side note- this fool also abused animals too but I guess you guys will try and justify that behavior as well!!

  148. I wonder what age one has to be to become an emancipated minor in his state. Since she wants to be grown, I would help her with that process because she would have to get out of my home.

  149. There are so many pulpit pimps

  150. I have just a couple of things to say about this, as a parent, a teacher, the child of a minister, and just a regular human with a measure of common sense.

    My now grown daughters attend the daycare center at World Changers Church in the same classes as Jordan dollar and Alexandria Dollar for tow years and a few months. I considered becoming a member of his church long before he built the dome, but I didn’t care for what I experienced in the church aspect.

    His mother-in-law was a wonderful person, a retired teacher, and funny, down to earth real person. She would talk to me during my summer breaks to help me recouperate from the stressful school year. At his center there were wonderful teachers…Sis. CeCe,SIs. Lynn, Sis. Betty, Sis Penny, and many more. The elder of the girls named was rambunctious but funny. I watch her be a bit of a kid sized bully but she just wanted to a regular kid like others in the class and not treated like Creflo’s daughter. She had a strong ability even at four to lie and blame other kids. Much to my chagrin her mother “Taffi” would try to believe it but it hit her in the face time after time as she had to come to understand that JUST like everybody elses’ kids HERs TO COULD and WOULD Lie on a dime and leave 9 cents in change.

    At the K-4 Graduation each kids was given a little reward, things like most helpful, most kind; Well Jordan received one eluding the kid most likely to get up run around the class and disrupt. The NEXT WEEK the center director was GONE!!!

    His then brother-in-law (Darielle DOllars father) had been working as a grounds maintenance person at the church BUT when he and Creflo’s sister stared to have problems…HE TOO WAS OUT OF THERE!!!

    I would see him drive a host of nice, new vehicles, even a Bentley while many of the daycare workers had to take second jobs, had dilapidated furniture, lived beneath the poverty line and more. They were lead to believe that something in their lives did not line up with the word/will of God so that is why they were poor and struggling.Yet he continued to accquire extravigant things like private jets and a security force like he was a part of the the Nation of Islam. When the kids had a sleep over and ten of the 12 girls in the class were allowed to go, he refused to let his daughter attend, but his niece could and his mother-in-law could understand why.

    As parents we all have to be careful with out kids but we must also be mindful of setting in place and elitist attitude. I have three daughters, we are working class and everything we have is earned via the grace of God…they are REQUIRED to do community service and give of themselves. They are well informed that their time in my house is a long tern lease that ends 60 Days after their eighteenth birthday or 30 days after HS graduation…choices are enrollment or enlistment…you do not have to go but you CAN’T Stay here!!!! I love you but you cannot free load over here. If you slip up/mess up you have six months to regroup and then you got to go!!!

    Do not bring any babies here before a degree and/or husband…do not even leave your pets…as a matter of fact after graduation i have the Army to come get their BEDS!!!! I do not want them to think that they are coming back here to stay….I have your back but you cannot rime my back!!! I hope this is a wake up call to everyone…parents you are in charge from day one…do not let what make you laugh when they are little end up making you cry later….

    • Wow. Thanks for that post. I see what you are saying. Even as children and even if rich, make your child adhere to the principles that are righteous, responsible and Godly. Do not spare the rod or spoil the child.

      Now I must say the statements about Creflo driving nice cars and the daycare workers struggling. Girl…the life of a pastor, smh, is so incredibly difficult. DIF-FI-CULT! A daycare worker doesn’t even warrant to be mentioned in the same sentence as that of a pastor. The devil rides many backs full time and to think of how he rides pastors I don’t even want to imagine.

      But I will say that because of all that contstant worrying, constant pressure, constant hardships, with little or not break even during the week like at least a weekend, WHEW!, pastors DE-SERVE to make a nice living. BUT not THAT nice. Yes a nice home. But not a mansion that looks like a ceo’s. Yes a nice car, but not a BENTLEY! Come on! And a private jet? There is nothing so important that he has to have a private jet. Thats the life of a business man of separate businesses and the church is a church first before the thoughts of business. Plus the model is JESUS and Jesus didn’t have extra over the top luxuries like the top 1% of the world. That is WAYYYYYY over the top and beyond the “nice” things that a pastor deserves.

    • Thanks for your post. I have probably the most comments here, and I realize that as some have said, that we don’t know all the details about this issue and shouldn’t be so quick to comment. I am guilty of having done that.
      I don’t support the daughter’s actions, but if all you’re saying is true, then there must be some deep and unhealthy issues going on in the Dollar home.
      I can’t take back my comments, but I will wait next time before I say so much.
      Thanks for the lesson.

  151. Becoming a parent was one of the most important
    decisions of my life. And I love my offsprings with my whole heart. But I am the
    the only Queen in my house and I only lay down the rules and the law. Bottom
    line, what I say goes. And if either of them disagreed with that and wanted to
    do their own thing their own way, they were welcomed to get out
    MY house. However, I never had a 15 year old be so ma disrespectful, so I dont know how I would have handle it. But I think that I would have been minus one child .
    I wonder where Mrs. Dollar was when this was happening. By the way I have 3 very loving children n respectful. I truly thank God for them. Two are adults and one still growing into a young man.Their minds and hearts amre in the right places. Thanks for readg iny God bless and keep you all. Trust always in Him.

  152. This happened to us with our daughter when she was 16. My husband was arrested and had to take anger management classes. Like Creflo Dollar my husband has always been there for his kids. One of the officers said to me don’t let your daughter get away with this. She has gotten her daddy arrested and now she thinks she is in control. Now she is almost 30 years old and an upstanding citizen. So they do make mistakes and they have to group.

  153. I’m not a follower of the Rev. Dr. Dollar, but I believe that he did the right thing by restraining his daughter or even beating the h**l out of her if he had to. Yes, what would have happened if this hot-tail gal had acted out the same way with the police? THEY would have beaten the grap out of her, perhaps even shot her, and taken her off to a vacation in a juvenile jail facility – alleging battery on a police officer.
    I hate to say it, but this child is stupid! When her fahter said “No”, she should have just obeyed him. Isn’t that what God and the law says that she should do?
    Bro. Creflo ought to take this case all the way to trial, if the judge doesn’t throw it out beforehand. No jury would ever convict this man! That gal of his needs to go before the church and apologize to her father and ask the Lord to forgive her as well.
    SHE is the one who was completely out of line!

  154. I KNOW THAT HEFFA DIDN’T CALL THE POLICE! AND PUT HER FATHER’S BUSINESS OUT THERE KNOWING HE’S A FAMOUS PERSON! If this is true sounds like she let the devil use her.

    Dr Creflo needs to let the police take her azz to a home and let her stay there and see how she likes it. Eating slop for breakfast. Sleeping in nasty beds. People around not giving a darn for her. Then she will see that all the things a parent does just to take care of her, dealing with nasty mouthed grown ups, sucking up just to keep money coming in, sacrificing themselves to give them what they want, providing a clean, healthy nice environment to live in, is alot and Dr Dollar doesn’t have to do it.

    If I were him I’D be the one calling the police next time.

    Come and get her!

  155. Warren Johnson

    Some parents are frustrated slave owners, and if the slaves don’t fall in line and do what they are told, then the whipping starts. Surely there are better ways of handling the discipline of your children. Whenever parents become too authoritarian this is what results, and the Dollar is more interested in his image than in loving and guiding his daughter so that she will come around to respecting his position. You have to know when to guide and allow them and to trust…. For a man of faith, he has demonstrated very little faith in his daughter, and the God he serves. I am sorry, but he has handled this one very badly. However, he is a Pastor with much sway over his flock and many a Christian worldwide, so he will be forgiven and countless excuses will be made for him. Ultimately the daughter will have to shoulder the blame for causing her father to beat her up….

  156. It seems all on this site are religious.Mr Creflo did this to his wife at one time. Itis never okay to put your hands on anyone. you are a preacher you should have better judgement and restraints . shame on you.

    • Religious is just doing certain things over in repetition. So I’m sure that word applies to you as well.

  157. The Motown Sound1

    Disturbed by a lot of these comments…..why do many of you hang onto the slave mentality of beating! Beating was bred into us, and many of you need to be out-bred of this nasty habit!

    The “Man of God” beating his child…..a 15 yr old! In some countries around the world, young girls are married off by that age – doesn’t make it right, but a 15 yr old shouldn’t be beat.

    The incident reveals the type of non-parent the “preacher” is and the non-control and lack of respect he’s lost AMIDST ALL HIS PROSPERITY AND RICHES! Disgusting!!

    Many of you posting are still S-L-A-V-E-S!

  158. There’s no cookie cutter solution to raising kids. I have 4 and I believe that their mom and I did the best we could. Did we make some mistakes, yes, however we were not the only ones influencing our kids. That’s where the problem comes in. So know who your child listens t:, friends, TV, radio and video games and you will quickly realize how their decision cycle works. Thats when you really begin to know your child. By the way, I support Rev. C, for standing on principle and knowing his role in the house.

  159. Howard Giddings

    We have a major problem in society today. There is a complete lack of respect by our children, most of which can be blamed on our government not allowing good parents to parent. Parents are afraid to discipline since the parental authority has been taken out of the house. The bible said spare the rod and spoil the child. We have completely destroyed the future of our great nation and raised kids that are disrespectful, unruly, UNGRATEFUL, and have no concern for others. My wife and i raised our children with love and boundaries. They weren’t perfect kids but they knew where the line was drawn. Where is the line drawn today? When will we stop the madness? Our children deserve more from us. I am not advocating abuse by no means but we must realize that we are not doing justice for our children. The future of this country is on the line. Let’s not jump to conclusion so fast involving Mr. Dollar.

  160. I hate that a good man trying to be a good father is put in jail regardless of who he is professionally. The truth is no matter how we were raised the day and times have changed. We can’t use physical force to bend the will of our children. The same resources given to our children are also our option as well. When he is put in anger management ( he will be forced to go) they will give him all the options he could have used. If your child doesn’t live by your rules then it time for you child to live your home. There are lots of group homes for willful children who can work the child and parent. These homes are no cake walk and have more rules than what they left behind. However, many don’t appreciate what they have till it is gone. Counseling is available to help the child and parent and get them back in the home where they belong. Many times pride gets in the way because épée don’t want others to think we can’t control our kids, but it’s better than jail. My prayers are with this family.

    • I understand your comment. Now explain to me the actions of a father when a 15 yr old attacks him and tries to dash out of the house. Personally I think he made the right decision at the appropriate time. Some of us still believe in spanking or kids when necessary and this I believe was one of those times.

  161. In our own lives we are met with challenges that take us out of character. Sometimes those events are there to dig up those ungodly things that must be destroyed within us. The key is to learn & move to the next level.

    James 3:2 All of us make a lot of mistakes. If someone doesn’t make any mistakes when he speaks, he would be perfect. He would be able to control everything he does.

    2 Corinthians 3:18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    Romans 8:28 We are assured and know that [God being a partner in their labor] all things work together and are [fitting into a plan] for good to and for those who love God and are called according to [His] design and purpose.

    Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, and I will defend my servants and give them victory, saith Jehovah.

    The victory is not saving face the two faced always wavering men. But stopping the devil attacks & plans on destroying our children and our faith.

  162. true to true– kids do change.. but calling the cops on me is the strum up of another whoopin’.. Lol

    Raisin them kidz like white folks will do that..

  163. I say JUDGMENT STARTS IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD! IF GOD ALLOWED CREFLO TO GO TO JAIL, IT IS A REASON…PERHAPS HE NEEDS TO BE HUMBLED AND TAKEN OF THE THROWN HE BUILT FOR HIMSELF. WHERE IS HIS HUMILITY & LOVE TOWARDS GODS PEOPLE, CARE AND CONCERN? OPEN UR EYES PEOPLE…LOOK AT HOW HE HANDLED WOUNDED PEOPLE UNDER EDDIE LONGS MINISTRIES, WHO WERE TRYING TO GET HEALED. HE CARRIED MORE ABOUT COVERING THAN EXPOSING TRUTH…WHY IS THAT? TRUE FRIENDS TELL EACH OTHER THE TRUTH…PROVERBS TEACHES US, ‘…FAITHFUL ARE THE WOUNDS OF A FRIEND…” A REAL FRIEND WILL WOUND YOU IN A WAY THAT PRODUCES HEALING, CORRECTION, FRUIT, ETC. ALSO LOOK HOW HE HAS GOTTEN ABOUT MONEY? GOD IS NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS. WHY DOES HOS DAUGHTER HAVE TO BE REBELLIOUS BECAUSE SHE WANTS YO GO TO A PARTY? SHE’S A TEENAGER!!!! MAYBE SHE GOT SO TIRED OF APPEARING PERFECT TO IMPRESS FOLKS….GOD IS NOT INTO PERFECT ACTIONS…BUT MORE INTO A PERFECT HEART…REALNESS…AND CHARACTER…WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT REALLY WENT ON…BUT GOD DIDN’T COME DOWN AND WHIPPED CREFLOS a*s WHEN HE HORRENDOUSLY MESSED UP, OR DID WRONG THINGS…HE SHOULD HAVE SHOWED HIS DAUGHTER MORE GRACE…BUT NOOO…HE’S TO BUSY WORRYING ABOUT HIS IMAGE….MAN LOOKS AT OUTWARD APPEARANCES…GOD LOOKS AY THE HEART…SELAH!

  164. Not you children:

    Don’t get it mixed up people they are not your children. Who holds the original birth certificate which you signed over to the State once those babies were born? Stop acting like you truly have control and ownership over something which you surrendered moments after there birth or (berth). Go back and read the original application for the birth certificate and don’t be shocked by what you signed. You my people are just “Guardians” over the States property. Don’t’ believe it research DYFS-(Department of Youth and Family Services), and get ready for the truth. What do you really control? And what have you signed away without reading and understanding what you were signing? My people are destroyed for there lack of knowledge………Hosea 4:6

    The conditional position of the ex-physical slave and now-time mental slave exist to this very day. Let’s stop pretending like we have control over what we produce when at the end of the day we know in our hearts and mind that whom ever defines, manages, and secures the society controls the society. Your just living in the “American Dream” state. Enjoy..

  165. I don’t know what happen in Pastor Dollars house… But I Grantee that he is using this opportunity to preach the word of God to someone in that jail…. All the situation did was give him another platform to preach the word….. No matter how it lookis God has the final say…

    Delight….. From Harlem N.Y.C

  166. Anthony williams

    For all those that say rise them right or it the parent need to do better. Do not have children or if you do I pray you do not eat your word. I had a a man that I call my farther! But he was there but not there for me and my brother . I had every Reson to disrespect him. Put you know what I did’ not. Even when he put me put for nothing. You try to teach them right from wrong . You try to show them love , let them know when them do wrong . But there something that happen to them when they leave you to go to school or just go outside. Yes all children do not turn out this way. Which seem like a blessing today. AND ALL PARENT ARE BAD!!!!! I also have to ask those who Think every parent is not doing something right. When you was grow up would you call the cop when your mom or pop beat you? Then think over this who is she going to go to when she need something or when she need help in this cold cold world?

  167. did she call the police before or after she came to? one other question, where will she now live?

    • At home with Dr. Dollar. He loves his family and nothing will change that. Oh and no t.v. ,iPod, comp. etc. for her for the next month. So maybe in July they’ll charge him with child neglect. LOL

  168. I’D MUCH RATHER READ ABOUT A PASTOR “LAYING HANDS” ON AN OUT OF CONTROL CHILD IN THIS MANNER THAN TO READ ABOUT A PASTOR INAPPROPRIATELY “LAYING HANDS” ON CHILDREN FOR HIS OWN s****l GRATIFICATION. RIGHT ON PASTOR!

  169. This is no surprise. We as a people have let society tell us that we can’t have prayer in school. We have wanted to be part of a society that took away our right to acknowledge our own history all for the sake of being included and recognized as being a citizen in this country. Soooo now they have taught our children that discipline is wrong and that they don’t have to follow rules that we as parents have set for our homes. But when they don’t follow their rules which are laws they could go to prison and ruin their lives with records which most times the time does not fit the crime. Black people in this country need to wake up and stop being under the illusion of inclusion cause there are still people here who don’t want us in this country even though our ancestors were brought here against their will. It’s time to take back our children. I applaud Creflo Dollar cause someone who I have fed and took care of all of their lives and still are a minor and living in my house is never going to hit me and discipline starts when they are young not when they become a teenager.

  170. Back in my day when you got a spanking you didn’t call the police on your parents you just cried promised you wont do it again and went to sleep (abuse is one thing, discipline is another) I’m saying parents need to be able to discipline their kids (time out work for some kids but others are so out of hand when timeout is over they go back to do the same thing. I’m not saying spanking your kids is right but I can say that the people in my generation respected their parents more than the kids today. In my day you disrespect your parents you paid for it. Some of us had to go get our own switch and if it was too small that made your spanking even worst. Back then parents use to say I brought you in this world and I will take you out. We believe them and it made us respect our parents even more.

  171. Rev. George Brooks

    Creflo Dollar is a nut, who many folks, including his daughter and her friends and associates, are simply unwilling to follow any longer. Because he’s preaching lies, just as most or many others are, and not exactly practicing what they preaches. Which includes this trend of preachers putting so much focus of riches, which is against Matthew 19:23-24, which talks about the near impossibility of a rich man to get into heaven. So do they believe what they are telling others? And many of these young people are not buying all of these lies that are being told in the churches, and elsewhere. Creflo is very domineering, and she most likely doesn’t want to follow any and everything that he is teaching as truth, which is not always true. If he, or any of us, cannot win people over with talk, then there has to be other alternatives. But it certainly should not result in beating up your child, or your wife. — Rev. George Brooks

    • Duet. 8:18 God says that it is he that gives us the power to get wealth Rev. It also says that the enemy is the accuser of the brethren. It’s obvious that you have never been in the presence of Dr. Dollar. Prosperity is only limited to material wealth if you limit it. That’s not what Dr. Dollar teaches. In all thy getting, get an understanding!!!

  172. marva Lightbourne

    ..who knows what the REAL STORY is behind this ???.. I don’t condole what rev. dollar has did to his 15 year old, was she “disrespectful” in the past??.. uncontrollable?..NO EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, either with the rev. , or her mother??..breakdown occured somewhere in the relationship..I feel there will be an “investigation” into this way beyond the family issue, and NOW will effect his stand with his church & community… some people (?) LOVE these type of “oppourtunties” ( drama) to finally say >> get him !!.. ( rev. Dollar ).. & others, rev. eddie long as an example..something is WRONG in that household… will the wife / mother talk ??..interesting

  173. The last “whipping” I got was at 5; my mother said she would never whip me and my brother again because she realized that there were other ways to discipline us. My father also did not believe in whipping or hitting us because he saw his father beat my aunt until she passed out. I am now 56; my brother is 64. Neither of us ended up in jail; neither of us ended up on drugs; neither of us ever disrespected our parents or hit them; and we grew up exposed to drugs, prostitution and crime. Our parents gave us the greatest gift a parent can give a child and that gift was the true love of God… by sitting down and talking to us about how the wrong decisions can ruin your life. Explaining to us how much they loved us and wanted us to live right and most of all, that we were not THEIR POSSESSION…WE BELONG TO GOD and that GOD was watching over us. A child who is contantly told by their parents that they love them and they are a blessing in their lives, WOULD NEVER THINK OF HITTING OR DISRESPECTING THEIR PARENTS..My parents were far from perfect, but the respect, patience, kindness and love they showed my brother and I, was far more effective than any whipping. I never “whipped” my daughters, who are now 19 and 21. Every teacher they had, told me how sweet and kind my daughters were in their class. Like me, my daughters did not grow up angry and feeling attacked. When they misbehaved, I treated them with respect and asked them WHY they misbehaved and did something they knew was wrong. I did punish them by not letting them have company, go on trips, taking away their phone, tv time, or any other enjoyments they really would miss. But did not showing anger at them; they got the message that their misbehaving would not be tolerated. Most of the time, they apologized for their misbehavior; something they would have to do as responsible and mature adults. Children have to learn how to deal with peer pressure, frustration and finding the courage within themselves to make wise decisions….not beaten into submission. I am not judging those who “whip” …just suggesting another form of discipline that may help you raise a respectful adult who hopefully will not have hidden anger issues because they were “whipped”/attacked by someone who really loves them. With regards to the word “rod”…”rod” means discipline…and the root word in discipline is “disciple”…which means “leadership and guidance”. It is guidance and leadership that GOD wants from us, for our children.

    • By definition a rod is also a stick or bundle of sticks or switches used to give punishment or spanking. Same word used accordingly.

    • @ Diane H — Hear! Hear!

      a grown man choking and punching a child is a crime. In fact, he’s not a man, he’s a coward. He uses his brute strength to bully and control others because underneath his posturing he is a scared little boy like all bullies are!

  174. Sharon Anthony

    Children will push the limits as far as they can. So, what if this father had let his daughter got to a party he didnt feel was right for her? What if there were drugs, alcohol, s*x or fighting. Would he have been right then, in letting her go. There is a BIG difference between parental discipline and abuse. This seems to me like discipline. You can’t let kids do anything they want. And the child was disrespectful to her own father, and older person, a person of authority in her life. She needed her little bottom beaten!!

  175. Train up a child in the way the he/she should go. For when he/she is old he/she will not depart. SPARE THE ROD, SPOIL THE CHILD!!! I bet she won’t try that again. Lesson well learned…

  176. I Am Glad The Police Arrested Him But If I Was A Police I Might Have Beat Him Also. I Am Sick & Tired Of These Fake Fathers, Grandfathers, Pastors, Priest, Bishops And Other Worthless Pieces Of Trash Raping, Killing & Beating Up Our Children Instead Of Trying To Give Them A Great Future. That’s Why I Get Out In Communities Everyday And Try To Save Our Children, Our Race & Get President Obama Re-Elected.

  177. Only Idiots Would Side With Creflo Dollar For Attacking His Daughter. I Have Been In This World 63 Years And We Have Problems With All Races But Way Too Many African Americans Are Going From Being REAL MEN AND WOMEN To Being Just Plain “n*****s.”

    • Maybe they should come and arrest me to because I discipline my kids as well. It’s amazing to me the way some think. It seems as if it’s always personal to them. You hate Dr. Dollar because he’s rich. Would you rather the drug dealers to teach us how to prosper their way. I thank God for a man of God that teaches us how to prosper his way. We as black people have come so far but yet we still have a long way to go. I’ve learned that we as a whole race didn’t support Martin while he was here. But after his departure those that tried to hinder him claimed to have marched with him. So Mr. Johnson your hatred towards Dr. Dollar is while yet sad not surprising to me. Dr. Dollar is doing what he has been called to do. Maybe we should all follow suit. FROM A REAL BLACK MAN’S POINT OF VIEW!!! AND I SERVE MY COMMUNITY DAILY.

  178. I really don’t think that Dollar purposely abused his daughter. Thank God have two very good daughters and never had to deal with any rude behavior from either of them. However, I could not say I wouldn’t have done the same thing Creflo had done. I really think that it was more about restraining her than beating her. If I were he, after being released from jail I would kick her out of my house and let her see for herself why if she wanted to live under my roof and eat my food she has to follow the rules that I have established. I think most people speaking against Dollar are more or less preacher haters and any preacher in the same situation would be criticized before looking at the whole picture. This girl was defiant towards a parent, I’m 59 years old and if I did that to my parents when I was growing up after all these years I’d still find difficulty in sitting down like a normal person. If the police would have beaten her this would not be a story.

  179. I agree with him. I would have done the same thing. What happen to spare the rod and spoil the child. He did the best thing for her.

  180. Thank you, Creflo.
    The child abuse laws be damned. Because some nuts locked their children in sheds, basements, etc; generations of our youth are ruined. Whoop that b**t and save your child, Creflo. We, family people, stand behid you 1000%. You have created opportunities for your children; but the system is set up to ruin our families. By the time our children realize that we are trying to protect them, they are bawling over their own child.

  181. I spend a lot of time lurking around and listening on line. But today I have to say this, If you LIVE under MY roof and you EAT my food. Then you are charged to obey. When you are in YOUR own home–then whatever you do is fine by me. You must also keep your own ( OUT OF JAIL MONEY ). I was raised by my mother and absent father,she told us that SHE was not raising (JAIL BIRDS ).Go figure,,I believe she would have gone to jail before one of us called 911 on her.Then we would have had to find a place to stay. Right or wrong, behave at home or learn in jail. If your children run your house, then you should move.

  182. I can remember the stories from MY older family members from the 60′s, 70′s, & 80′s when they would tell me how just about the entire village would cut their behinds when they did something wrong. With the many great black leaders that turned out it seemed as if they were doing something right. Then comes the don’t spank your child law and our kids went from becoming leaders to becoming prisoners. It’s about time we take back control of our homes, our kids, and our communities. I thank Dr. Dollar for practicing what he preaches. He’s an excellent example of what a God fearing man should be.

  183. This is definitely a GOOD thing to have happen to the Right Rev-n-reem-you Cashflow Dollar. Now he has an opportunity to FINALLY and FULLY learn from an up close and personal experience that his dictatorial and autocratic style which he displays so well from his mega-maniacal pull-pit won’t actually work with his OWN 15 year old daughter. While he’s off in his jet or Bentley setting up churches far and wide and raking in the dough, his creditibility and quality time issues with his offspring have festered like a sore and obviously gone unattended to. Wake up, Cashflow. Put your family first because “Charity (LOVE) begins at home, THEN (and only then) spreads abroad”. What on earth will come out of his wife Taffy’s mouth down the road about this situation, the same, similar, or other related matters (~_o). I will bet Dollar is the ONLY in-home, biological father, functioning as the male head-of-household within a two-parent nuclear family among ALL of his daughter’s circle of friends and party goers. Therein lies the rub.

  184. It is so sad when you have a father that loves his kids trying to take care of her and show her the right way,but she want to get mad,she is a child in the home if your father say you can’t go somewhere you just can’t go end of story may GOD help us. SHIRLEY M

  185. Raising children is not about giving them everything they want and being their friend. It is about inputting values int them by leading by example and explaining why you want them to have those values. It means families eating dinner at the table daily, it means attending church together sitting on the same row together. It means having weekly fun time together such as movie night, board game night. It means sitting and reviewing homework, attending school meetings and all the mundane things parents do not want to do. It means giving unconditional love even when you do not feel like it. If you are prayerful and have a peaceful life. If you do all these things your children stand a great chance of becoming productive adults. If not, reexamine your parenting.

    Incidently, we loved board game night so much I created a board game, Fluke – the wealth building game of accidental inventions. It is prototype version. We are raising funds to support inventions. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/117068 Every dollar counts $1- 1 million

  186. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOOOOO DOLLAR! HE KNOWS WHERE THERE IS A STRONG HOUSE HOLD FOR GOD THE DEVIL WILL USE THE WEAKEST FAMILY MEMBER TO BREAK IT DOWN. PASTOR DOLLAR KNOWS WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS, “DO NOT SPARE THE ROD”, IF HE WOULD HAD DONE JUST WHAT THE WORD SAID “THE ROD” SHE PROBLEM WOULD BE REALLY MESS UP, BUT HE DID IT IN A WORLDLY WAY, HE USE HIS HAND, AND GOT ARRESTED, THAT’S WHY WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS, AND HE WILL ALWAY REMEMBER YOU AND NOT LEAVE YOU! THIS IS JUST ANOTHER TEST, SO STAND ON GOD WORD AND HE WILL BRING YOU OUT. FOR THOSE WHO ARE AGAIN PASTOR DOLLAR YOU NEED TO READ THE BOOK OF 10 COMMANDMENT , SPECIALLY THE ONE THAT SAYS HONOR YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER ARE DAYS WILL BE SHORT.

  187. Barbara Williams Brown

    It is sad that we as parents can’t follow the words of the Bible “spare the rod spoil the child”. If more parents forbade their child from doing what they wanted to do fewer would die on the city streets by accidental gunshots. I say to Pastor Creflo Dollar don’t allow the devil to stop you from being a father or “MAN OF GOD” My prayers are with you, your wife and family. As it is known when we pray together GOD will prevail.

  188. The next time that you face the people let them know that you run and keep order in your house. So to all you weak people out there let your kids be your best buddies and cause Pimp Koolwater & Losie Mayflock will get your child and turn them out, while you haters are tring to throw stones at this man. Some of you may already be afraid to go home… that to bad. But I would perfer the laws than the undertaker cause now if it were my child … baby I love but now you got to go. Never bite the hand that feeds you, oh your friends are waiting.

  189. Rev Dollar did the right thing in the wrong Country. When you raise children today, you have to discipline them with embarrassment and love. When my daughters want to go to a party, I chaperon and threaten to dance.

  190. I teach middle school and I know first hand that today’s youth are very disrespectful. They curse at adults, talk back, dress like thugs and whores and talk about s*x like it is common language. They all need their a***s beat, and I am talking old school a*s whooping as in go get a switch from the tree, or extension cord a*s whooping.

  191. Deborah Callahan

    Spare the rod; spoil the child! That’s not child abuse, that’s good parenting. I say right on to Pastor Creflo.

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  193. A lot of Teens these days don’t respect anybody. The courts need to stay out of the parent’s business, unless there is abuse. If this was the only time he had to choke her up so be it and she learned a lesson. Some of them need to be choked. When I grew up you got your b**t beat and I never got into trouble or went to jail, Spare the rod spoil the child.

  194. Spare the rod is not just about corporal punishment...Communication.

    For all of you who think punching and choking a child is cool, it’s not, I have a teen daughter and if you don’t get to know their temperament, their acting out can be a cry for attention. Also, I work with teens in the juvenile system, and beating them is not the the answer, whether you feel the old way of doing things is effective …..think about those other kids that are severely traumatized and end up killing their babies because of s… they learned from an aggressive.parent that was emotionally unstable. As a black father, I know kids don’t just act out for no reason…GET TO KNOW YOUR CHILD

  195. Spare the rod is not just about corporal punishment...Communication.

    Furthermore,GOD tells us to not provoke our kids, which means….RESPECT goes both ways no matter who pays the bills.. Because it’s this thing called…”Learned Helplessness”, and if a father is to be considered the head then if you treat your daughter with abuse because of your control issues she just might seek out men in the same fashion and end up conforming to abuse because of that learned fear of a man. Black folks quit living in the past, and learn alternative ways to punish an unruly teen because rebellious actions will be a lot worse than some venting out.

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  197. If a child calls the police on their parents then let the police take them to a home where they are more restricted and beg to come back home. I would never let that bad seed back into my home, for calling the police and bring trouble into our home! h**l NO……..Let them live in the dumps and think about the good they lost.

  198. Spare the rod is not just about corporal punishment...Communication.

    Another thing, verbal explanation goes a long way along with any form of punishment! Lack of education can cause a cycle of poor rearing in child development, as a father, I carried somethings into my parenting, and I realized that it didn’t work, so I made some changes, which resulted in me & my daughter having a beautiful relationship as a result…..the real key is…breaking the chain because that generational bullsh.. is just that. We as black people have to establish other ways of being effective in & outside the home.

    being effective in & outside thr

  199. Spare the rod is not just about corporal punishment...Communication.

    What I don’t hear on this thread enough is…ACCOUNTABILTY! Parents have to really be able to access their actions that might have led to an unruly teen because its kind of strange that all teens don’t turn out disrespectful, and challenge their parents , and your so call discipline just might be negatively reinforcing the behavior you don’t like….a lot of these are not getting enough of positive reinforcement..

  200. Spare the rod is not just about corporal punishment...Communication.

    I’m sure those who think beating a child into submission is going to deter them from crime, well NEWS FLASH…it doesn’t work, but you have taught them how handle situations under, which usually surfaces in their own homes as adults. And the ones think that kicking them out into the streets will work, oh…well those kids, especially daughters go find a pimp that will communicate with them, but not out of unconditional love, and sons end up looking up to their street rolemodels(drug dealers, gangs, pimps) that have no problem doing your parenting jobs for you.

  201. Spare the rod is not just about corporal punishment...Communication.

    Ever wonder why they use play therapy on young children…well that’s how we as therapists find out what’s going on in the home because it’s not good to question them @ a young age. Similarly, children act out in school because their home environment is dysfunctional, and by some of these comments backing up a mega pastor that recently defended a pedophile, its no wonder so many kids back in the day hid the s****l, and physical abuse among our black community because they had no voice. So if you wondering why the has to control your parenting, somebody had to protect the kids when mommy or/and daddy dropped the ball.

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  203. when my chidrens was growing up you could not call the police when i was young the teacher beat you your mother beat you your father beat you your grandmother and grandfather it didnot take all of that but rev dollar was never one i listen to on tv i was not ther but childrens can become verry intenst some time i had them to get dirty and cruse nasty in front of me not speak to me for a while after they got grown say thing tha hurt me i raise my kids with no father they relly didnot know i was marry to him but he left never lookback.

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  205. There will be a Blogtalk show on tonight discussing Creflo Dollar and his abuse of his daughter. Comments on here are very interesting but people are confused about the facts and making up stuff that is not in the police report, putting all their own family issues into it. SMH

    The show starts at 5:30 pm PST which is 8:30 pm if you live on the east side. Today June 10th.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askheartbeat/2012/06/11/creflo-dollar-normalized-abuse-of-black-womenchildren

  206. I am a single mom of a now 18 year old son. He is 6ft 1 and I am 5ft 4. He has never raised his hand at me and never called the cops on me. I never abused him but he knows if he tried anything I would knock him down yes even at this age. You cant say that the problem is in how we raise our kids because in the end they do what they want anyway. I got spanked and I turned out fine. As teenagers there is so much peer pressure and they do things to try to fit in. My problem is where does she think she was going at 1 oclock in the morning and she is only 15. That is where I have the problem. None of us were there in his house and dont know what went on. There are three sides to a story, his side, her side and the truth. I pray that the truth comes out and they get the counseling that they need should that be the case.

  207. Emmet you are so right. Didn’t read everyone’s remarks, but your response is excellent. The Bible says “spare the rod, spoil the child”. Who are these people, and where you raised? I would have been on the floor if I’d disrespected my parents. Children were no way the way they are now. The police will whip them over the head with his gun or stick, yet a parent can’t touch them without getting in trouble. That’s not right. To the person who said kids are not born bad – I’m sure you know that we were all born in sin and shaped in iniquity. If a lot of these kids got proper chastising at home, the jails would not be so crowded, and the police would not have to shoot some of them down in the street. I would rather be the one to give my child a good licking than the police or the pimp in the street. My 15 year old better not try to go out to a party 10 o’clock at night. Did Creflo go too far? Being a man of God, I believe he did. However, some of these kids will make you want to strangle them. IF my child ever struck me I really can’t say what my reaction would be…. my prayers are with the entire family; and I hope Creflo will get pass this and continue with his ministry. WE all have hills and mountains in our life sometimes that we must climb…

  208. Several years ago, a friend’s 6 year was misbehaving and acting out a tantrum at home, the father spanked him. The next morning at school, the kid was told to sit down by the teacher, after which he stated that he could not sit down because his b**t was hurting. When the teacher inquired about why was it hurting, he replied that his father had hit him. This triggered a chain of events that led to the father being hauled off to jail. In our society today, children who are defiant to parenting and refuse to take orders from their parents will eventually take orders from the warden.

  209. Do what yoy have to do to keep the cops from shouting them in the street and getting three days off with pay. We have to love them enough to go to jail so be it. That is called love them. It is not a easy job every boby can’t do it, they is why we are loseing so many of our kids. Go for Rev.

  210. A father has to stay in charge of teen age daughter at all times. If my daughter call the police because I am trying to displine her/she need to find her some place else to go. I will not allow a child that I am raising and trying to provide for her to live under my roof if she cann’t obay my rules. Sorry for those that don’t believe in tough love. My goal is to keep her out of jail. If she goes to jail because she disobayed the rules I will let her stay in jail until her trial come up. Tough Love. Some time you have to allow them to make their own mistakes before the reallity of the real world set in.

  211. Isn’t 15 a little too old for a spanking. Spankings should have been done a long time ago. Discipline should have been instilled in her from birth, then maybe she would respect her parents word today. He had to spank to make up for lost time, now it’s too late, she doesnt respect him. Kids are smart and they know how far they can push their parents buttons. Believe me folks, Creflo lost that battle a long time ago for not putting his foot down. She is just older now and as kids get older it gets more difficult.

  212. The rev. laid the ( SmackDown ) on his 15 year old .

  213. You are ‘Dead-on-it’, Jaydee!!!!!

    I raised two boys alone from ages 9 and 13. I never had to smack them to the ground to make my points… but they were never confused about ‘who-was-the-head-nigress-in-charge’.

    When my eldest son was 9 years old, he developed a habit of having temper tantrums when his father sent him to his room as punishment for an infraction. He would stomp all the way there… then slam the door as hard as he could. I was busy cooking dinner one day while his Dad was busy watching TV in his recliner. I calmly put down my spatula, wiped my hands, and proceeded to his room. We sat down on his bed together while I caressed his hand… and calmly said to him: “Let me explain something to you, honey. I take care of all of your NEEDS… and many of your WANTS. So, if ANYONE in THIS household has the right to have a ‘TEMPER TANTRUM’… IT’S THE MOTHER!!!!!!! He Got It.

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